Cameron Schwab now writes for the Age.

[John Crow Batty 8,879]

Noticed CS has written a few pieces for The Age recently. I wonder what CW thinks all this? And what do all the Demonlander ex CS supporters who engaged in a struggle sessions to expunge The Age from humanity think of this? I have been a big critic of him whilst he was running our club but he writes well. Good luck to him in his new career I say. Who would have thought of this 12 months ago let alone that Paul Roos will now be our next coach. Next bizarre out of this world happening, ...could it us be genuine premiership contender soon. Any takers?

[bing181 9,330]

He does write well, but also, after xx years in football admin, is able to contribute a P.O.V. from the inside. Some of his historical insights were interesting/revealing.

Says something about him though: he was always a CEO operating mainly from the PR/marketing side, and perhaps not surprising that he has taken up the pen.

[dee-eee 231]

Enjoying his efforts so far . Glad he's given up the incomprehensible Harvard Business School jargon of his Whiteboard Wednesdays .

[John Crow Batty 8,879]

Enjoying his efforts so far . Glad he's given up the incomprehensible Harvard Business School jargon of his Whiteboard Wednesdays .

rings true.

[dazzledavey36 55,373]

Got no time for this [censored]. Tried to get his head into the football side of things then got some home truths of Stynes to never do it again but didnt listern. Players absolutely hated him for the politics he was bringing to the team and caused a big fraction. Got no time for him and never will. Every function he spruiked on about the Melbournes history when he should have stuck to his job and talked about the business side of things.

[Demon_Tingles 211]

Couldn't care less about this guy and what he does. As long as he never sets foot near our footy club again. There is a reason Fremantle and now Melbourne booted him.

[bing181 9,330]

Got no time for this [censored]. ...

Possible to post anything at all without including '[censored]'?

[dazzledavey36 55,373]

Possible to post anything at all without including '[censored]'?

Anything much nicer?

[Demon_Tingles 211]

Possible to post anything at all without including '[censored]'?

Not much point when the word [censored] accurately describes him the best without using language that will get you banned

[Machsy 2,858]

I recall being at a "Before the Bounce" function, and for some reason Schwab was explaining to supporters Michael Newton's value as a forward, after someone had obviously asked a question about him. He was telling the group that Newton's value was in providing a contest, that he jumps high for marks and even if he doesn't take the mark, the ball will fall close to his feet and makes it easier for our smalls to crumb off him.

All I could think at the time, beyond it being crap, was "why are you even getting involved in this sort of discussion? You shouldn't be commenting on this. You're the effing CEO..."

He was like one of us on this forum, being popped in the position of CEO, but really wanting to be involved in the football side of things.

Couldn't help himself.

[dazzledavey36 55,373]

Spot on ^

[Guest]

I have been as critical as anyone of Cameron but I hope to God he learnt his lesson after he left Melbourne. Less technical bollocks. Just cut to the chase.

He has a way with words and I think it carried him to a career in admin. that was longer than it should have been.

I still think there are a lot of wounds that need to heal before he steps foot back in our club (if ever!)

[rpfc 28,800]

Yeah, he failed. Countless others have too. But he still gets to go and watch and have a beer and enjoy the coming renaissance. He loves the club and he deserves what he got and not a jot more.

Move on, the club has.

And his articles have made some petty good points; you fail with the best of intentions and the purest of motives. It does not a villain make,

[Gippy Dee 48]

He's gotta use that desk for something I suppose...

[Whispering_Jack 30,730]

A well crafted piece and the last paragraph says it all:-

In elite sport reasonableness is never assumed, particularly when you are president of an AFL club, and even when you have the best giving their best, it might still not be good enough.

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

Schwab was on SEN this morning.

"Mario from Doncaster", a regular caller who is usually a bit of a [censored] held on the line for about 10 minutes just to pay out on Schwab and Prendergast on how poor their recruiting was during his time. Mario then went on to ask if Lucas Cook would be drafted again, it was actually quite funny and quite satisfying to hear.

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

I recall being at a "Before the Bounce" function, and for some reason Schwab was explaining to supporters Michael Newton's value as a forward, after someone had obviously asked a question about him. He was telling the group that Newton's value was in providing a contest, that he jumps high for marks and even if he doesn't take the mark, the ball will fall close to his feet and makes it easier for our smalls to crumb off him.

All I could think at the time, beyond it being crap, was "why are you even getting involved in this sort of discussion? You shouldn't be commenting on this. You're the effing CEO..."

He was like one of us on this forum, being popped in the position of CEO, but really wanting to be involved in the football side of things.

Couldn't help himself.

I remember thinking the exact same thing at a function about four years ago.

[The Song Formerly Known As 6,479]

Schwab was on SEN this morning.

"Mario from Doncaster", a regular caller who is usually a bit of a [censored] held on the line for about 10 minutes just to pay out on Schwab and Prendergast on how poor their recruiting was during his time. Mario then went on to ask if Lucas Cook would be drafted again, it was actually quite funny and quite satisfying to hear.

I heard as i was driving to work, absolutely hilarious! If you can re-listen somehow i recommend people do so.

[praha 11,240]

Enjoying his efforts so far . Glad he's given up the incomprehensible Harvard Business School jargon of his Whiteboard Wednesdays .

http://beingademonsfan.tumblr.com/post/46924154640/cameron-schwabs-whiteboard-wednesday

Yeah, he failed. Countless others have too. But he still gets to go and watch and have a beer and enjoy the coming renaissance. He loves the club and he deserves what he got and not a jot more.

Move on, the club has.

And his articles have made some petty good points; you fail with the best of intentions and the purest of motives. It does not a villain make,

I used to fall for his jargon inspirational quotes, too.

The guy is a revolutionary. Great vision and ambition but ultimately just not a very good business man. Was only reinstated when his mates (I won't name names out of fear of being ostracised by some here) got into power at the club and for whatever reason felt it necessary to bring back those that had already failed to terribly in the past.

Schwab's "best of intentions" almost killed the club.

I'm sure Hitler also had the "best of intentions". It's all relative, man.

Edited October 6, 2013 by Cudi_420

[dazzledavey36 55,373]

Yeah, he failed. Countless others have too. But he still gets to go and watch and have a beer and enjoy the coming renaissance. He loves the club and he deserves what he got and not a jot more.

Move on, the club has.

And his articles have made some petty good points; you fail with the best of intentions and the purest of motives. It does not a villain make,

Think you will find he is a pretty happy Freo supporter now they are up and going..

[John Crow Batty 8,879]

His other new job according to his AGE article signature is Director of Lambeau advising CEO's. I hope all the other club CEO's are clients of his.

[Guest]

Schwab was on SEN this morning.

"Mario from Doncaster", a regular caller who is usually a bit of a [censored] held on the line for about 10 minutes just to pay out on Schwab and Prendergast on how poor their recruiting was during his time. Mario then went on to ask if Lucas Cook would be drafted again, it was actually quite funny and quite satisfying to hear.

Did Schwab come off the ropes? Or just cop his spray?

Edited October 6, 2013 by Guest

[Cards13 9,117]

I used to think Schwab was a great asset to the club, I would see him at preseason games at Casey walking the crowd, talking to the faithful and he sounded like it was all going in the right direction. I enjoyed the whiteboard Wed as it was different and gave an insight into the goings on and again sounded great.

The further away from that period I get the more unbelievable it all seems, we are still paying for it and will for years to come, possibly decades. I understand moving on but I just find it hard to hear what he says or writes without a sense of petty "pppfffttt what would you know, look where we are now Cam.."

An old boss of mine took me aside one day when I was in my mid-twenties and said to me: "I have two types of people who work for me. Those who are outcome focussed and those who are output focussed. I need you to become more outcome focussed." I always think of George Costanza when I think of output focussed, running around with a piece of paper in your hand "looking busy" but achieving little. Turned my working career around (well after a few years anyway). One thing that has always stuck with me is to try work towards and be an outcome focussed person. You can have all the output in the word but get 0 outcomes of value to the organisation. That is Schwab to me, he talks a brilliant game and knows the business insights inside out but his output was a lot higher than the outcomes he delivered to MFC.

One thing he said today on the radio was a failed high draft pick was a "opportunity cost" and how high that opportunity cost was. Well Cam the opportunity cost of having you on board for so long would stretch into the millions.

[Demon3 2,541]

Sat what you like about Cam, but he knows his Football, and knows his players. was a great recruiter in his early days. I might be one out, but i dont have the hatede fof him like so many others and the disrespect shown for him is a bit boring to be honest.

And no, i am not CS.

[Bluey's Dad 3,419]

Even Robert Walls occasionally writes a good article.

Something something blind mouse something cheese.