Matt Scharenberg

[ChaserJ 5,157]

That's a big point of difference and it makes Dangerfield a very damaging forward like their ex skipper Roo was in his day.

True, but at the time of drafting, Dangerfield hadn't quite learned to use his body in that way. It's more this part where the feeling is that they are very similar (without being carbon copies):

"He has excellent speed, is quite courageous and more of an inside player than an outside player at this stage despite his pace. He is a strong-willed young man who has clear ideas and has good balance in his life."

Roo (at 183cms) is actually closer in body type to Freeman (181-182 depending on whose measurement you read).

Edited November 14, 2013 by ChaserJ

[beelzebub 23,383]

"The 190cm backman was this week flown to Melbourne by the Demons in the hope he could slip to their No. 1 pick." Champion Data picks the top 30 draft prospects of 2013

[ChaserJ 5,157]

Would still find it very difficult to see Collingwood overlooking Scharenberg, but a massive steal if he got to us.

[Mickey 4,731]

Would lose it if we got this kid. Can't see him sliding to us, but would be a massive get

[Redleg 41,462]

Would lose it if we got this kid. Can't see him sliding to us, but would be a massive get

It is looking like the Pies who will determine his fate. Heavily predicted to be there at 6. If Pies pass on him, it could be our choice if Lions take McCarthy as suggested, or possibly Aish if he slips.

Getting Scharenberg at 9 would make the Tyson deal a blinder for us. Wonder how Barrett would see it?

[Redleg 41,462]

"The 190cm backman was this week flown to Melbourne by the Demons in the hope he could slip to their No. 1 pick." Champion Data picks the top 30 draft prospects of 2013

I wonder if we would have wasted the time and money on this exercise, unless we were fairly certain he would be there at 9. It seems like we have been assured he will be there at our pick. There would be no need to bring him here if we knew he wouldn't get to 9. Don't think they have brought any other interstaters over. Interesting.

[sydneydee 689]

Would be a fantastic get at pick 9. Very exciting prospect

[spirit of norm smith 16,589]

Would be a fantastic get at pick 9. Very exciting prospect

Absolutely ... he is ready to go. Smart, tough, skilled. Plays like Brendan Goddard.

[Mickey 4,731]

It is looking like the Pies who will determine his fate. Heavily predicted to be there at 6. If Pies pass on him, it could be our choice if Lions take McCarthy as suggested, or possibly Aish if he slips.

Getting Scharenberg at 9 would make the Tyson deal a blinder for us. Wonder how Barrett would see it?

No doubt as a scatter gun approach, as we said we'd pick midfielders and then grabbed a backman

[Demon Disciple 12,274]

I wonder if we would have wasted the time and money on this exercise, unless we were fairly certain he would be there at 9. It seems like we have been assured he will be there at our pick. There would be no need to bring him here if we knew he wouldn't get to 9. Don't think they have brought any other interstaters over. Interesting.

Maybe we flew him out, and let the HS in on the knowledge so as to force a team with a higher pick to select him earlier than wanted, allowing the true player we are targetting to slip through to us at 9.

[Demon Jack 6,930]

I'm all for taking him but I doubt he'll be there for us at pick 9. I'm tipping that Collingwood will take him with their first pick. Bring on Nathan Freeman at 9!

[Demonsterative 3,020]

Why didn't the club complete a thorough interview with Scharenberg previously? I would have thought they would have interviewed him at the Draft Combine. Maybe there is more to this story as Demon Disciple suggests. Not much info comes out of the club these days unless the club puts it out there

[Little Richard 6,265]

I'm all for taking him but I doubt he'll be there for us at pick 9. I'm tipping that Collingwood will take him with their first pick. Bring on Nathan Freeman at 9!

I like the sound of Freeman more to be honest, a pure midfielder. Utilities worry me as they could struggle to find a set position but it looks as though Scharenberg is a good player.

[Dr. Mubutu 866]

I like the sound of Freeman more to be honest, a pure midfielder. Utilities worry me as they could struggle to find a set position but it looks as though Scharenberg is a good player.

I don't intend this as an attack on you, Django, but I think a lot of Melbourne people have been burned by Morton pick at 4. Not all utilities are rubbish (CF the BJG praise in this thread).

I honestly think the Pick 2 into Tyson and pick 9 is genius by our recruiting team, as we won't be placing QUITE as much expectation on an untried kid as we have in the past.

[1 red eye 1 blue eye 771]

If he's there at ours I want him.

[Hannibal 5,814]

Scharenberg has been compared to Goddard, and Freeman has been compared to Dangerfield.

Who would you pick out of those two?!

Freeman.

How could anyone argue with logic like that ?

[spirit of norm smith 16,589]

groundswell has shifted ... Demonland had pick 9 likelihood as 70% Freeman, 20% Lennon, 5% Salem and 5 others 1% likely, NOW Scharenberg could be the steal of the 2013 draft !!

[rjay 25,093]

groundswell has shifted ... Demonland had pick 9 likelihood as 70% Freeman, 20% Lennon, 5% Salem and 5 others 1% likely, NOW Scharenberg could be the steal of the 2013 draft !!

Can't see it, but happy if we get him.

I know I'm starting to sound like a broken record but I can't understand GWS not taking him at 2.

[Demon Disciple 12,274]

Can't see it, but happy if we get him.

I know I'm starting to sound like a broken record but I can't understand GWS not taking him at 2.

Quite simply, he's not a Victorian. For whatever reason, GWS seems to be hell bent on bringing in as much Victorian talent as possible.

[Little Richard 6,265]

I don't intend this as an attack on you, Django, but I think a lot of Melbourne people have been burned by Morton pick at 4. Not all utilities are rubbish (CF the BJG praise in this thread).

I honestly think the Pick 2 into Tyson and pick 9 is genius by our recruiting team, as we won't be placing QUITE as much expectation on an untried kid as we have in the past.

Maybe not but we've definitely had our bad experiences with them - Morton, Sylvia and Dunn to name a few. I just think we will benefit more by going for a pure midfielder rather than taking a bit of a risk on a utility. Just my opinion though.

[Grandson of a gun 276]

Maybe we flew him out, and let the HS in on the knowledge so as to force a team with a higher pick to select him earlier than wanted, allowing the true player we are targetting to slip through to us at 9.

My exact thoughts as soon as I heard this. It may well be cat and mouse with Collingwood, trying to force them into a move.

Think back to Hawks /Toigs. Hawks had 2 and 4 and Tiges 3. Hawks wanted both Buddy and Roughy. Rated Buddy higher but wanted Roughy too. Knew Tiges would take Roughy if available but if he was gone they'd go Tambling over Buddy. So they forced the Tigers hand by taking Roughy and as planned got Buddy after that.

I reckon the Pies might think we are their Richmond and wont take Scharenberg at 9 thus they can pick a midfielder at 6 that we may have been targetting and then Scharenberg at 10. We are calling their bluff and positioning as if we will take Scharenberg if available.

Collingwood cannot then take the gamble and the midfielder we wanted and identified at 9 will still be available...

[Redleg 41,462]

Maybe we flew him out, and let the HS in on the knowledge so as to force a team with a higher pick to select him earlier than wanted, allowing the true player we are targetting to slip through to us at 9.

That is also possible. Makes the draft a little more interesting.

[Redleg 41,462]

Maybe not but we've definitely had our bad experiences with them - Morton, Sylvia and Dunn to name a few. I just think we will benefit more by going for a pure midfielder rather than taking a bit of a risk on a utility. Just my opinion though.

I don't know why so many attack Dunn. He has played in 3 out of every 4 games since we got him. He is in our best 22 ATM. He can play forward, back or in the middle as a tagger. He has a booming kick and can kick goals. Yes he isn't a star, but he is a very serviceable player and better than so many others we have drafted. How many stars have we drafted lately?

I could delist plenty before Dunn.

[Goodvibes 3,596]

Quite simply, he's not a Victorian. For whatever reason, GWS seems to be hell bent on bringing in as much Victorian talent as possible.

I think they might be keen on the other highly rated Croweater.

[Dee Fan 3,247]

Fortunately for us there will be a very good player at pick 9 and if it's Scharenberg, that would be good, if not we will still have a chance to pick up a talented player; as long as we don't stuff it up.

The pressure is off us and firmly on the clubs below; we can still come out the winner. I'm glad we don't have to make the decision on Kelly because he reminds me of some of the earlier picks we've had that everyone said would turn out to be a Generational Player and Brownlow medallist.