Jack Fitzpatrick

[Redleg 41,501]

He just needs to get games. Should play every game for the rest of the season. Same with Jimmy, Terlich, Kent, Clisby etc. They are the future.

Even thought Nicho was better.

[Hannibal 5,814]

Fast and athletic with terrible skills and decision making. It's a no from me.

[old dee 23,872]

Fast and athletic with terrible skills and decision making. It's a no from me.

Still have not read a word you say BH

[FarNorthernD 5,861]

He just needs to get games. Should play every game for the rest of the season. Same with Jimmy, Terlich, Kent, Clisby etc. They are the future.

Even thought Nicho was better.

Agree and happily those 4 are all demanding their spots at the moment. Some fairly handy 2012 recruiting there

[Swampfox 190]

Would be quite happy to see him play in the forward pocket and take the ruck duties at all stoppages in the forward 50

He could play that position for 10 years IMO

[Hannibal 5,814]

Still have not read a word you say BH

I'm about to upload another. Hopefully it will make the cut.

[old dee 23,872]

I'm about to upload another. Hopefully it will make the cut.

Oh please don't I am happy

[FarNorthernD 5,861]

Fast and athletic with terrible skills and decision making. It's a no from me.

I get where you are coming from but his skills have improved significantly over the years. Given Jack's history of illness and injury and combined with his size you would think there is more improvement to come

And if his banana from the boundary is an example of terrible skills I'll take them every time

[dazzledavey36 55,365]

If he keeps his form up we are going to have a massive delima in regards to our forward line when clark and hogan come back next year.

[machine11 142]

at least he can take a mark - something we were having trouble doing in the early - he likes the contest - you don't always have to be a superstar - most teams have good reliable solid players - hopefully that is what Fitzy will become.

[Nasher 33,617]

If he keeps his form up we are going to have a massive delima in regards to our forward line when clark and hogan come back next year.

I like Fitzpatrick's form and he played well last night, but when Clark is fit, it won't be much of a dilemma.

[Slartibartfast 17,635]

Fast and athletic with terrible skills and decision making. It's a no from me.

Terrible skills and decision making? Seemed to me to be very good last night and got in the right position and provided options well.

I've saw him at Casey last year a lot and he has some very good attributes. It always seemed to me he needed to feel comfortable in the seniors before he'd play well and I think he's getting that. I'm not sold but he's on my watch list. What is impressive is the way he's stepped up and continued to improve quickly. It also needs to be remembered he's had (and got) some serious medical history.

He'd be a real bonus if he continues to improve and Ben, in the nicest possible way, with your strike rate lately he's got and excellent chance!

[Hannibal 5,814]

Terrible skills and decision making? Seemed to me to be very good last night and got in the right position and provided options well.

I've saw him at Casey last year a lot and he has some very good attributes. It always seemed to me he needed to feel comfortable in the seniors before he'd play well and I think he's getting that. I'm not sold but he's on my watch list. What is impressive is the way he's stepped up and continued to improve quickly. It also needs to be remembered he's had (and got) some serious medical history.

He'd be a real bonus if he continues to improve and Ben, in the nicest possible way, with your strike rate lately he's got and excellent chance!

You can have him.

I won't waste much time arguing over a gumby.

[Mono 455]

Agree. He just needs to play a number of consecutive games and get his confidence up.

It is tough when you are playing and thinking, " oh sh-t if I drop this mark I will be back at Casey".

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Have always been a big fan of him, and his VFL form displays that he needs a few games in a row to get going.

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He just needs to get games. Should play every game for the rest of the season.

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It always seemed to me he needed to feel comfortable in the seniors before he'd play well and I think he's getting that.

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Fitzpatrick was interviewed after the game and made the point that he has had 4 games in a row (which has helped him a lot).

[dee-luded 2,959]

Terrible skills and decision making? Seemed to me to be very good last night and got in the right position and provided options well.

I've saw him at Casey last year a lot and he has some very good attributes. It always seemed to me he needed to feel comfortable in the seniors before he'd play well and I think he's getting that. I'm not sold but he's on my watch list. What is impressive is the way he's stepped up and continued to improve quickly. It also needs to be remembered he's had (and got) some serious medical history.

He'd be a real bonus if he continues to improve and Ben, in the nicest possible way, with your strike rate lately he's got and excellent chance!

hahaha, so your going to declare him After He's arrived.... who's going to pick the splinters out bob? maybe rhino can help you out when you have the apron on washing the boards Wine bottles?

[Slartibartfast 17,635]

You can have him.

I won't waste much time arguing over a gumby.

Strange, you wasted a lot of time over Petersen. Played well yesterday, for Casey.

[old dee 23,872]

Strange, you wasted a lot of time over Petersen. Played well yesterday, for Casey.

That is probably where he will spend most of his career BB

Was great at Werribee too.

Won the VFL medal there, just a good VFL player for mine.

God knows how he got 3 years

[Little Richard 6,265]

Let's not forget that Jack is only 22. For a big man his development is above where it usually is for a bloke of his size. There is still plenty of upside to come.

[Hannibal 5,814]

Strange, you wasted a lot of time over Petersen.

My point exactly.

[Redleg 41,501]

Strange, you wasted a lot of time over Petersen. Played well yesterday, for Casey.

Pedersen's game yesterday at Casey was great. He dominated the backline and set up scoring opportunities.

He is probably just a bit below AFL standard, but is a handy replacement when needed. I hope that is his role next year.

[Josh 1,420]

Who knows given the competition for forward spots next year Jack may well end up down back. His speed, leap and 200cm, 99kg frame could be an advantage on the last line. Also like that he has a red hot go

That's my theory. A little like Keefe from Collingwood. A ruckman resting in the back line?

[Little Richard 6,265]

Pedersen's game yesterday at Casey was great. He dominated the backline and set up scoring opportunities.

He is probably just a bit below AFL standard, but is a handy replacement when needed. I hope that is his role next year.

For the next two years... unless we want to pay out his contract.

[Swampfox 190]

Pedersen's game yesterday at Casey was great. He dominated the backline and set up scoring opportunities.

He is probably just a bit below AFL standard, but is a handy replacement when needed. I hope that is his role next year.

The situation with Pederson is we have him until 2017 so we might as well develop him while we have him

I would like him to play the tall defender who does the ruck stoppage duties in the back 50

The same task could also be done by James Sellar

I am not convinced either of them are going to be the answer long term though

[Chook 15,022]

The situation with Pederson is we have him until 2017 so we might as well develop him while we have him

I would like him to play the tall defender who does the ruck stoppage duties in the back 50

The same task could also be done by James Sellar

I am not convinced either of them are going to be the answer long term though

If you ask me, he and Lynden Dunn are playing for the same spot, but I'd rather Jack Grimes in there than either one of them. I hear he's coming back soon, so the clock is ticking for the both of them.

[DeeSpencer 26,084]

The situation with Pederson is we have him until 2017 so we might as well develop him while we have him

I would like him to play the tall defender who does the ruck stoppage duties in the back 50

The same task could also be done by James Sellar

I am not convinced either of them are going to be the answer long term though

Stoppages in your backline are the most important therefore your ruckman goes down there you don't get one of your key defenders to ruck.

Ie. that position you've created is redundant. Clearly these days you need 2 big defenders and preferably 2 guys around the 190cm mark who are capable of playing tall or small. The 4 we've gone for currently are Frawley, McDonald, Garland and Dunn. I expect Grimes or Watts to take over from Dunn. If we are playing a particularly tall team then Pedersen is an option as well otherwise he remains as depth for Frawley and McDonald.

I expect as you said us been stuck with Pedersen means we should aim to develop him as much as possible as a key defender. That means increasing his fitness and mobility - stripping a few kgs for a start. With Garland and McDonald using their flexible mobility to play on mid size guys against the dogs I could very well see Pedersen getting games ahead of Dunn at some time. Pedersen actually has some natural talent for accumulating possessions and running the ball out of the backline. If he could kick reliably he'd certainly be closer to a game. That and not being soft.

He's been clear over taken by Fitzpatrick as a forward/back up ruck. In a lot of ways that's been a good thing. Fitzpatrick has convinced me that he's stepped up from athletic talent who I was very unconvinced about to a prospect who now could certainly make it. It's still a big question mark but that's a good step. His first few AFL games were horrible.