Development

[dazzledavey36 49,053]

http://www.melbournefc.com.au/video/2013-06-25/behind-the-scenes-development-program

Good insight into what the players that didn't play did on the saints game. I noticed that it was also the first time they had done this aswell. Can't help but think Neil Craig would have had some sort of big say in doing this for the players to help there development. I thought it was great insight into inner spectrum and seeing Jordie, Hogan grimes talking shows there leadership.

[PartyTimeJohnny 533]

I watched it and i couldn't help but just think 'That's the guy that stepped on an opposing players ankle during a fight as the Runner'

[Vagg 2,422]

I think it's a wonderful innovation. Reckon it's what the players not playing should always be doing -- actually spending the game watching and, hopefully, learning as part of their own preparation to step up when they get the chance to play.

Sure beats just having them sitting in the stands and sky-larking!

It's all about professionalism in everything they do.

[monoccular 16,306]

Sorry - cant get the video to run right now.

Can anyone give a briefing on just what they do now?

[RalphiusMaximus 5,993]

Did anyone notice Gawn eying off Jamar near the start of the clip? I wonder what was going through his mind there? "No way he's getting back next week" maybe?

[titan_uranus 22,681]

http://www.melbournefc.com.au/video/2013-06-25/behind-the-scenes-development-program

Good insight into what the players that didn't play did on the saints game. I noticed that it was also the first time they had done this aswell. Can't help but think Neil Craig would have had some sort of big say in doing this for the players to help there development. I thought it was great insight into inner spectrum and seeing Jordie, Hogan grimes talking shows there leadership.

I think it's great. Hopefully the players take it in the right spirit and the group can begin the process of becoming smarter, better footballers.

Sorry - cant get the video to run right now.

Can anyone give a briefing on just what they do now?

All the boys who weren't playing against St Kilda sat together in a box/suite thing to watch the game (seemed like most/all of them were there: Grimes, McKenzie, Jamar, Frawley, Viney, Tapscott, Barry, Hogan, Sellar, MacDonald...I'm sure I saw others). The idea was that they could discuss what was happening together and learn from what happened on the field. They were given sheets with questions to help stimulate their thinking.

[sue 8,470]

Sounds like a good idea - in fact with hindsight it is amazing that all clubs haven't done this for years. Perhaps players don't like it. But one minor suggestion - provide a clipboard or something solid for them to write on.

[What 18,810]

http://www.melbournefc.com.au/video/2013-06-25/behind-the-scenes-development-program

Good insight into what the players that didn't play did on the saints game. I noticed that it was also the first time they had done this aswell. Can't help but think Neil Craig would have had some sort of big say in doing this for the players to help there development. I thought it was great insight into inner spectrum and seeing Jordie, Hogan grimes talking shows there leadership.

That is very encouraging. Finally some professionalism is creeping into the club.

Sure beats an injured Watts ans Sylvia sitting in the stands and laughing when we are down by 100.

[monoccular 16,306]

I think it's great. Hopefully the players take it in the right spirit and the group can begin the process of becoming smarter, better footballers.

All the boys who weren't playing against St Kilda sat together in a box/suite thing to watch the game (seemed like most/all of them were there: Grimes, McKenzie, Jamar, Frawley, Viney, Tapscott, Barry, Hogan, Sellar, MacDonald...I'm sure I saw others). The idea was that they could discuss what was happening together and learn from what happened on the field. They were given sheets with questions to help stimulate their thinking.

Thanks

Sounds very constructive. Were any of the coaches present to help guide them?

[titan_uranus 22,681]

Thanks

Sounds very constructive. Were any of the coaches present to help guide them?

The guy running it was, I think, Andrew Nichol (backline development coach, and was the runner who stepped on Jake King's foot earlier this year.

I don't know if any of the coaches were there - would have thought it unlikely, given they'd be in the coaches box on game day for sure.

[Gorgoroth 12,337]

I watched this and thought it was a great idea.

[Barney Rubble 1,576]

I believe all the top clubs do something similar, but mainly as watching taped games, not live games.

And as Sue mentioned give the boys a clip board to write on, knees are not for that purpose.

I was wondering though, why the development coaches weren't needed elsewhere on game day?

Edited June 26, 2013 by Chippy

[DeeSpencer 23,321]

I believe all the top clubs do something similar, but mainly as watching taped games, not live games.

And as Sue mentioned give the boys a clip board to write on, knees are not for that purpose.

I was wondering though, why the development coaches weren't needed elsewhere on game day?

Because they are the development coaches!

Let the head coach and 3 line coaches manage game day. What's the point in having more than 4 voices. Pre game they can talk to some of the young charges - ie. Clisby, Toumpas, Kent etc and then go and work with the majority of their guys during the game.

Andrew Nichol was our match day runner until he stood on that clown from the tigers but I think this is better use of his time.

Now obviously they won't do this for away games or games that clash with the same day that Casey play (which is fairly often) but it's certainly a good idea.

I saw on the Collingwood show the club that their young players watch their game reviews but then often sit in on a review of another player. I think that's a good idea. Video overload isn't great but you can see all your mistakes and highlights and then also get a look at someone elses. Helps understand how the team structures work as well to look at the game from a different perspective.

[Vagg 2,422]

I was wondering though, why the development coaches weren't needed elsewhere on game day?

I think I read somewhere that the Development Coaches are actually used as the Line Coaches for Casey. So, when both Casey & Melb are playing on the same day, they wouldn't be at the Melb game anyway.

[monoccular 16,306]

I believe all the top clubs do something similar, but mainly as watching taped games, not live games.

And as Sue mentioned give the boys a clip board to write on, knees are not for that purpose.

I was wondering though, why the development coaches weren't needed elsewhere on game day?

Yeah....I would hate to see some guy out for 4-6 weeks with "knee vs pen" injury :-)))

IF their presence in the box with the non-players helped their development, then where could they be better placed on game day?

[titan_uranus 22,681]

More info:

Non-playing Dees learn on match day

[Bay Riffin 1,426]

Sounds like a good idea - in fact with hindsight it is amazing that all clubs haven't done this for years. Perhaps players don't like it. But one minor suggestion - provide a clipboard or something solid for them to write on.

The lack of clipboards is stifling our development of players. Perhaps the key reason actually.

[ignition. 1,413]

I think it's a good idea although I would also like to see it implemented with the team analyzing two other high end clubs taking on each other.

Non-playing Dees learn on match day

[Redleg 37,911]

Sounds like a very good idea.

[ignition. 1,413]

Ooopps sorry admins didn't notice this thread earlier.

[Satyriconhome 9,993]

This has happened quite a few times in the last few seasons, not with the whole group but with smaller groups, like the 1st year players etc...but because of the bad press we have been receiving re development of players........assume it is another PJ driven initiative ......of course the cameras being there to record and then appear on Club website