WELCOME TO DEMONLAND - PAUL ROOS

[dazzledavey36 54,937]

Awsome stuff spirit of 39!!

[Hannibal 5,814]

Saw this excellent bit of work elsewhere:

[dazzledavey36 54,937]

I have full confidence that if we chase Selwood hard we will pull it off with Roos on board.

The guy has a presence about him that makes your ears [censored] up and listern. Btw why the hell wouldnt you wanna play under Roos!?

[Ron Burgundy 8,584]

I was at a party with an MFC employee last night. This person's office is next door to PJ's. I took everything he said with a grain of salt. But this is what he told me:-

* PJ is a shrewd operator and all MFC employees are having to earn his respect;

* 4 redundancy packages came across his desk on Friday for four members of our football department;

* the following companies would become involved with the club next year and bring in potentially $2 million in sponsorship - Singapore, Range Rover (how appropriate!) and Priceline;

* Roos is all but signed having met with the leadership group. The boys were like excited kids after the meeting;

* Walsh is on board. I asked why he would leave Collingwood to come to us. I was told that he didn't. Walsh left the Pies due to all the internal pressures there. Buckley likes to rule the roost. Then you have McGuire, Pert and all the other heavy hitters trying to have their two bob's worth. He said there is definitely tension inside that football club.

* Chip Frawley was not in a good head space in the middle part of the year. Injured, and unhappy with the direction of the club. The change of coach and the media beginning to ask question his standing in the game have turned him around.

* The players did not like Neeld (nothing new there);

* The club would be active in recruiting. He spruiked all the usual names. Although he did mention that we had had a chat to Scott Selwood, who is keen to come home;

* All employees at MFC have so much faith in the direction PJ is taking the club in. This person barracks for Essendon but is genuinely excited about all the changes going on at our club.

* Lastly, I found this disturbing. He told me a priority pick was all but assured, but that we wouldn't want to win today. That sounded kind of familiar.

Time will tell how accurate he was.

Great post SO39 - thanks.

Sorry to dig into the highlighted statement, but because Chip is one of the players we can't afford to lose, I get very paranoid about any comments that suggest he may leave.

I take it from your comment that he has turned around ie, he pretty well wants to stay a Demon now.

[Guest Spirit of 39]

Great post SO39 - thanks.

Sorry to dig into the highlighted statement, but because Chip is one of the players we can't afford to lose, I get very paranoid about any comments that suggest he may leave.

I take it from your comment that he has turned around ie, he pretty well wants to stay a Demon now.

Yes RB. Apparently he got his old bounce back (he is a prankster around the club) and could not wait to get out there and play some good footy for MFC.

[Ron Burgundy 8,584]

Like that would sway him...

If we land Roos, and Watts still wants to go (unlikely, I think), at least we will now be in a better position to secure a good trade for Watts - the other player will presumably be happy to join the Dees, rather than threatening to retire from the game altogether if traded to the MFC.

Surely the chances of landing Adams have now increased dramatically.

[jnrmac 20,065]

My father in law is a Superintendent. He's not,that's the extent of my knowledge.

Most of the population is Australian last time I checked Sensus.

The you should try reading the Census

Just sayin....

And hey I spent three weeks in Perth one weekend....Boom tish

[Demon Stalwart 255]

If you haven't red this I think you need to especially in light of the Real possibility now that Roos will coach Melbourne Next year

It reads like his Blueprint and also what he believes he can and cannot deliver

"Demons fans will want to know immediately how soon the club’s on-field fortunes can change."

This is where the challenge begins for the new coach.

Unfortunately, for Demons fans, I would suggest the new coach won’t be able to provide a satisfactory answer at his first press conference.

Most of the list will need to be closely looked at by before he can make an assessment of how quickly things can turn around.

The biggest question on everyone’s lips is: is Melbourne’s on-field performance a reflection of poor recruiting or poor development?

If you dissect the list there are clearly some strengths and weaknesses.

The Demons look to have three good tall defenders in James Frawley, Colin Garland and Tom McDonald.

As we know, defence wins premierships and there are many teams who would love to start with these three players.

Equally, the forward line could consist of Mitch Clark, Chris Dawes and Jesse Hogan. Certainly, at their best, these three would trouble opposition defenders.

We know what Clark and Dawes can deliver and, by all accounts, young Hogan is destined to be a star.

The midfield is clearly a major concern. At the moment you have probably Nathan Jones as the only midfielder who would walk into most sides. As important as it is to have great defenders to stop the opposition scoring, the main defensive and offensive weapon is a hard running deep midfield.

Your mids will create defensive pressure and dictate how many opportunities Clark, Dawes and Hogan will get.

However, it is not all doom and gloom because the current list has three potential stars.

Jack Trengrove was a star leading up to the draft and I still fully believe he could become a genuine elite midfielder.

Jack Viney and Jimmy Toumpas are highly rated kids and have already shown glimpses of what they could be in the future.

Sam Blease is another. Has he been underdeveloped or is he not up to AFL level? You would love to give him the opportunity to play multiple games in a row and find out.

If the Dees were to be granted a priority pick they could address their midfield weaknesses quickly. That being the case I would look to trade either Pick 1 or 3 for the best midfielders available.

There are many talented players on the list who have not reached their potential. In no particular order they are Colin Sylvia, Jack Grimes, Aaron Davey, Mark Jamar and Luke Tapscott. Over the past two seasons we have also seen some very good games from Max Gawn, Jack Fitzpatrick, Dean Terlich and the very exciting Jeremy Howe …

and then there is former No.1 draft pick Jack Watts.

I was there the day Jack played his first game. I have never seen a fanfare like it and is it any wonder he has never lived up to that hype?

"It was one of the biggest mistakes I have ever seen from a football club in handling a young football player."

( I have always said this and I couldn't agree more )

Make no mistake, the Demons need to keep hold of Watts because he is incredibly talented and still could be a star.

He needs a coach that will find a position for him, play him in that position and teach him what it takes to be a genuine AFL player.

We must also remember that even premiership teams have players that are not stars but play a role and play it well. I’m sure those players exist at Melbourne.

Clearly some smart trading and drafting is needed, but if the Demons get everything right they could have a competitive team next year.

http://www.thefordhamcompany.com.au/paul-roos-herald-sun-column-22/

"From ROOS Mouth to GODS Ears"

Yes I am beginning to feel the old passion beginning to stir and I'm a Old Dee Supporter and that is Exciting believe me

"GO DEES "

[DemonOX 8,791]

If we land Roos, and Watts still wants to go (unlikely, I think), at least we will now be in a better position to secure a good trade for Watts - the other player will presumably be happy to join the Dees, rather than threatening to retire from the game altogether if traded to the MFC.

Surely the chances of landing Adams have now increased dramatically.

Probably but Roos has to SIGN on the dotted line first.

[Lil_red_fire_engine 11,177]

* The club would be active in recruiting. He spruiked all the usual names. Although he did mention that we had had a chat to Scott Selwood, who is keen to come home;

Great read. Selwood is contracted until the end of 2015 so would be close to impossible to get.

[Whispering_Jack 30,113]

I was at a party with an MFC employee last night. This person's office is next door to PJ's. I took everything he said with a grain of salt. But this is what he told me:-

* PJ is a shrewd operator and all MFC employees are having to earn his respect;

* 4 redundancy packages came across his desk on Friday for four members of our football department;

* the following companies would become involved with the club next year and bring in potentially $2 million in sponsorship - Singapore, Range Rover (how appropriate!) and Priceline;

* Roos is all but signed having met with the leadership group. The boys were like excited kids after the meeting;

* Walsh is on board. I asked why he would leave Collingwood to come to us. I was told that he didn't. Walsh left the Pies due to all the internal pressures there. Buckley likes to rule the roost. Then you have McGuire, Pert and all the other heavy hitters trying to have their two bob's worth. He said there is definitely tension inside that football club.

* Chip Frawley was not in a good head space in the middle part of the year. Injured, and unhappy with the direction of the club. The change of coach and the media beginning to ask question his standing in the game have turned him around.

* The players did not like Neeld (nothing new there);

* The club would be active in recruiting. He spruiked all the usual names. Although he did mention that we had had a chat to Scott Selwood, who is keen to come home;

* All employees at MFC have so much faith in the direction PJ is taking the club in. This person barracks for Essendon but is genuinely excited about all the changes going on at our club.

* Lastly, I found this disturbing. He told me a priority pick was all but assured, but that we wouldn't want to win today. That sounded kind of familiar.

Time will tell how accurate he was.

Most of that resonates well with me apart from the bit about the priority pick and not winning today. IMO the way the PP rules are framed, we qualify because of the very long period of time in which we have languished as a poor side. Our best effort over seven seasons has been 8½ wins (twice). Our record in 2012/3 has been 4 wins and 2 (possibly 3) wins. In the decade 2003 to 2012 similar or better records have seen several clubs reap the benefits of the PP and two clubs - Hawthorn (Roughhead & Franklin) and Collingwood (Thomas & Pendelbury) - have won premierships as a result. That's not to mention Carlton, who have been the main beneficiaries with multiple PP's and admissions from an assistant coach player of tanking (without the AFL blinking apart from a ½ hour investigation from an AFL official who also happened to be a Carlton premiership player).

No, the result of today's game should have no bearing whatsoever on whether we get draft assistance under the AFL rules and the Commission is duty bound to provide it to us. To hear of clubs like the Bulldogs (Cooney 2003, Griffin 2004) bleating that it's unfair reeks of hypocrisy of the highest order.

Besides which, I've tipped us to win today.

[Ron Burgundy 8,584]

Surely, there's absolutely no chance we would even entertain tanking this game.

I reckon we're a sneaky chance too WJ.

[Mr.McGuffin 5]

Strong rumour at local (connected) footy club last night;

Coach;

Paul Roos

Assistant Coaches:

Cameron Ling

Simon Black

[Ron Burgundy 8,584]

I'd be happy for Ling and Black to coach the mids whilst running around on the field along side them on game day.

[ucanchoose 1,816]

Simon Black is interesting...........

[dee-luded 2,959]

Is there a way to filter the posts in this thread so that it only shows actual news or discussions about the possibility of Paul Roos coaching the dees?

1. First impact if it is announced - membership to 40K next year. Nearly all my dees supporting mates don't have memberships anymore - many since Juniors sacking. they will be back.

2. Attendence at games - it will double for dees supporters.

3. No more excuses - shape up or ship out.

4. New momentum - even if the first year or two is tough the direction will be set up right and momentum will build.

5. rumour Roos met with the leadership group already (which I thought was odd given that two of the leaders are supposedly in Flagstaff Arizona exercising)

6. attracting good players wont be a problem now.

7. Rumour that Kennelly wants to come across as well - the irish connection.

what, you want to homogenise things?

just go to the MCC forum, that will probably have that type of forum, all the dirt & grit filtered out.

[dee-luded 2,959]

I heard he has now moved up to 51-49% to coach us.

lucky he's not in politics

[rpfc 28,427]

Surely, there's absolutely no chance

Stop there.

We won't win today.

We are just awful.

[BAMF 4,353]

Ok. Topic says done deal.

Post says rumour.

Not cool.

[Ted Lasso 19,518]

I have had a few people mention to me we were chasing an interstate midfielder hard, had no idea Selwood was on the table, instantly my preference over Swallow and Sloane

[rpfc 28,427]

I was at a party with an MFC employee last night. This person's office is next door to PJ's. I took everything he said with a grain of salt. But this is what he told me:-

* PJ is a shrewd operator

And probably doesn't like the fact that his Essendon supporting mate at the office is whispering into you ear...

Thanks for telling us though!

[Ted Lasso 19,518]

I have a funny feeling the boys are really going to come to play today, hoping we get over the line for flash, D-rod and Joel mac, but mostly i hope this meeting with Roos and so on has given the boys some hope and confidence things are well and truely on the right path!

bring on the new dawn of the MFC

[rpfc 28,427]

Merge!

[Ted Lasso 19,518]

Got my hopes up, although if they met at the MCG last night like the reports said i'd bet my left arm it was to sign a contract

[markc 975]

Im already mowing his lawns...

does he need a pinball machine ? I have already put one in the club rooms