What a surprise

[Curry & Beer 5,444]

There are 6 of the 9 games played this weekend to be shown live on fox footy

http://www.afl.com.au/tv-radio

Have a guess who the 6 teams are that miss out?

GC, GWS, Brissy, Port, North and of course us.

Oh and of course the following week three of those get covered, but again GC, Port and us miss out.

Clearly being broke and/or having a small supporter base has determined this fixture AGAIN.. I wonder when these fixtures are made if they even discuss who gets shafted or is there some list on the wall with our name at the top.

[FC Melbourne 108]

Have you been watching us for the past 6 years? I don't even want to watch half the time..............

[DeeSpencer 26,266]

Yep the AFL blab on about integrity but if they can't have a fair fixture and a proper commercially equal fixture then what is the point!

[old dee 23,998]

There are 6 of the 9 games played this weekend to be shown live on fox footy

http://www.afl.com.au/tv-radio

Have a guess who the 6 teams are that miss out?

GC, GWS, Brissy, Port, North and of course us.

Oh and of course the following week three of those get covered, but again GC, Port and us miss out.

Clearly being broke and/or having a small supporter base has determined this fixture AGAIN.. I wonder when these fixtures are made if they even discuss who gets shafted or is there some list on the wall with our name at the top.

C&B not sure why you seem so surprised.

Television is all about ratings / costs.

Who the hell besides a few thousand Dees and Port supporters wants to watch a game as it turns out between both sides seconds.

They finished 14th and 16th.

Then add in it is being played in Renmark.

Any telecaster with half a brain would not cart all their equipment to Renmark for 7- 8000 viewers.

If you were running Foxtel would you?

[Gorgoroth 13,184]

I was hoping the game at casey would be shown, but I'm not surprised at all.

[monoccular 17,642]

Move on....the AFL Integrity Inquisitors may have a look at it.

[old dee 23,998]

I was hoping the game at casey would be shown, but I'm not surprised at all.

In 2012 we were largely irrelevant

Until we start winning a reasonable number of games we will continue to be treated that way.

[Moonshadow 17,678]

Winners are grinners. Can't wait to string together a lot of good wins, increase our supporter base and membership. Other clubs may not win great numbers of games, but get coverage because of their large supporter base, eg, Tigers. Can't blame the networks really, they are only going where the numbers are. If we win 14 games in a season and play exciting footy, we'll get more supporters (hopefully) and greater coverage. Then it's up to our marketing people, admin people and us to maximise the opportunity.

I heard recently that at the time of the proposed merger with the Hawks, we had the most club members and they amongst the lowest. Why? Not like that now. Supporters follow success. The big push for members over the last 10 yrs has brought out the true level of club support. There are lots of Haw supporters (and members) below the age of 40, because that period represents their long purple patch through the 70s, 80s and 90s. Far too few Dee supporters under 40, as you would guess.

Edited February 28, 2013 by Moonshadow

[jumbo returns 6,741]

Winners are grinners. Can't wait to string together a lot of good wins, increase our supporter base and membership. Other clubs may not win great numbers of games, but get coverage because of their large supporter base, eg, Tigers. Can't blame the networks really, they are only going where the numbers are. If we win 14 games in a season and play exciting footy, we'll get more supporters (hopefully) and greater coverage. Then it's up to our marketing people, admin people and us to maximise the opportunity.

I heard recently that at the time of the proposed merger with the Hawks, we had the most club members and they amongst the lowest. Why? Not like that now. Supporters follow success. The big push for members over the last 10 yrs has brought out the true level of club support. There are lots of Haw supporters (and members) below the age of 40, because that period represents their long purple patch through the 70s, 80s and 90s. Far too few Dee supporters under 40, as you would guess.

Won't happen this year.

[Moonshadow 17,678]

Won't happen this year.

massive contribution jr. You should be proud.

[jumbo returns 6,741]

massive contribution jr. You should be proud.

Easy MS, pop those claws back in.

14 wins with this list is just not doable this year - 2014 would be a more realistic timeline.

If we achieve 8 -10 wins this year, I'll be very, very excited.

[Barney Rubble 1,576]

Even if it was televised at Renmark.

Somewhere between Adelaide and F..k knows where.

I think i'd rather watch the Aussies getting spanked by the Indians again.

I know I'm a glutton for punishment, but am definitely not a masochist.

[Moonshadow 17,678]

Easy MS, pop those claws back in.

14 wins with this list is just not doable this year - 2014 would be a more realistic timeline.

If we achieve 8 -10 wins this year, I'll be very, very excited.

Ok, moon-claws in.

No one said it was to be this year.

I too would see progress with 8-10 this year.

Can you add something to the thread subject?

[jumbo returns 6,741]

Ok, moon-claws in.

No one said it was to be this year.

I too would see progress with 8-10 this year.

Can you add something to the thread subject?

I think there was an earlier thread on this and I said my piece.

Debate soon.

[Moonshadow 17,678]

GOY.

Anyway, back on topic, does anyone know where there is a list of which H&A matches are to be televised on which networks? That is, if it has been decided already by the networks. Wondering if we'll get many free to air.

Edited February 28, 2013 by Moonshadow

[Gorgoroth 13,184]

It was in the paper the other day, I gather foxtel would have it on their website.

I know the Bombers/Tigers match is on, the pies game is on, tomorrow is hawks/bullies, think the carlton (freo I think they play) is one and possibly the cats/crows game.

[RalphiusMaximus 6,102]

The AFL has said over and over, if we want better timeslots an TV schedules, we need to win games and draw crowds. Have we done any of that? At all? Nope. Until we start providing them with some value, the broadcasters will continue to ignore us.

[Redleg 41,933]

Easy MS, pop those claws back in.

14 wins with this list is just not doable this year - 2014 would be a more realistic timeline.

If we achieve 8 -10 wins this year, I'll be very, very excited.

You would have to be, 8-10 is going to be hard to get. We are coming from a long way back.

[biggestred 5,237]

The problem is that if we had better Time slots and fixturing we would have more supporters and more money to help us play better football. But we don't so we can't get as much money into our football dept as others who do, and of course they keep winning and get more prime time slots. Vicious cycle.

[Vipercrunch 2,847]

I've just had a close look at the Foxtel coverage for NAB 2 and 3 and we will not feature either week. Given we can't make the final, we won't be seen again on TV until the Season starts.

Not happy

[ashdemons22 235]

http://demonland.com/forums/index.php?/topic/32715-round-2-3-of-our-nab-cup-games-not-televised/#entry699025

Brought this up over a week ago.

[dee-luded 2,959]

Have you been watching us for the past 6 years? I don't even want to watch half the time..............

the inequality has been going on for 30+ Years.

this is what causes clubs to flounder & not get off the bottom.

its the inequality of the 'blockbusters', the draw, the uneven fixture, & the allowances of the more powerful clubs to dictate their desires to the AFL that has caused a perennial underclass of clubs.

In life each new generation is born equal unless the 'haves' don't share equally the benefits from the environment we exist in.

It Has to start somewhere & the draft is a good place, but without the equalisation of an even draw & fixture as well as media exposure, than other clubs will grow way ahead as has happened.

It will continue to get worse until all teams get equal rights.

We've tried to elevate ourselves thru the draft & recruiting, but for a perennial cellar dweller, their isn't any quick fixes.

[dee-luded 2,959]

Even if it was televised at Renmark.

Somewhere between Adelaide and F..k knows where.

I think i'd rather watch the Aussies getting spanked by the Indians again.

I know I'm a glutton for punishment, but am definitely not a masochist.

I agree & when clubs are rebuilding the list, as we still are, & Port is starting to, playing kids for teaching & experience takes precedence in the Pre Season games, over Wins...

not great for a TV audience.

Our Rnd 3 should be starting to ramp things up... & IMO this is the game I would like to see on say, the ABC...

[Curry & Beer 5,444]

the inequality has been going on for 30+ Years.

this is what causes clubs to flounder & not get off the bottom.

its the inequality of the 'blockbusters', the draw, the uneven fixture, & the allowances of the more powerful clubs to dictate their desires to the AFL that has caused a perennial underclass of clubs.

In life each new generation is born equal unless the 'haves' don't share equally the benefits from the environment we exist in.

It Has to start somewhere & the draft is a good place, but without the equalisation of an even draw & fixture as well as media exposure, than other clubs will grow way ahead as has happened.

It will continue to get worse until all teams get equal rights.

We've tried to elevate ourselves thru the draft & recruiting, but for a perennial cellar dweller, their isn't any quick fixes.

Daniher wanted a salary cap for the football department expenditure, and was laughed at, even though it is an obvious unfair advantage

[Whispering_Jack 31,129]

We shouldn't complain too much. We had a good run last year with coverage in the first three NAB Cup games and only missed out on the last one which was a fairly meaningless filler in the week of the grand final which was the only game telecast.

Tomorrow's game is more Mickey Mouse stuff and, unless someone puts their hand up, even Demonland isn't sending a correspondent to cover the game.