What are the Demons lacking

[Je Roos Salem 661]

We need a consistent backman who can use the ball and make decisions as well as use the body well- Rivers was our only one.

We need to set up a proper midfield who work together and run together. Apart from Jones no midfielder had a good season, I think Viney and Rodan will help with the clearances. An outside midfielder who gets into good positions would help too

A forward line which can stay in position (was a huge problem when Clark got injured).

[jayceebee31 688]

CEO

Agree -- need Brian Cook or someone as good...maybe we were better of with McNamee ?

Edited October 31, 2012 by jayceebee31

[Alcho Dee 269]

Welcome.

Have you been in another country for the last three weeks?

We have just acquired a 194cm/105kg FF/CHF in Chris Dawes, a 193cm/100kg FP/Back-up ruck in Cameron Pedersen, and a 194cm/97kg 17 year old FF/CHF in Jesse Hogan to accompany our 200cm/100kg FF/back-up ruck in Mitch Clark.

Grundy wouldn't get a game in our forward line and while he may become an excellent ruckman - Jamar has another three years on his contract, ruckmen take ages to mature, the best ruckmen in the game (Sandilands, Cox, Jolly) came from the rookie list, and we need midfielders.

Pick 4 should be spent on the best midfielder in the draft.

Well said sir.

[monoccular 16,407]

Rather ironically in view of recently exclusively revealed "Wilsonian facts and evidence", according to Missen's initial assessment of the list what we lacked was...a tank!

Edited November 2, 2012 by monoccular

[Grimseyisgod 378]

gun midfielder. end of story

[steve_f 40]

Pace at the stoppages

[COURTFIELD 1]

Nope. His dad was told by Prendergast that he would be taken with the pick that was used for Blease, his teammate. Rory was his captain. Strauss and Bennell were then chosen before him.

New house, new dogs, the darl has moved over. He is happy. his folks arent particularly but accept it. He was looking forward to the Demons at the time. Says he is a one club man.

What a pity! I like Sloan"s courage and great competitive streak.... essential qualities for any AFL recruit or decent sportsman but seemingly not on Prendergast's check list at all! .... if those two qualities were mandatory for Prendergats's draftees we would not have drafted players who shy away from competitive situations like Morton and the serial jibs like Bennell.

From memory Adelaide have done well with players we have overlooked ... Dangerfield / Morton, Talia / Cook, and Sloan / Bennell. There are probably others but i don't want to look.

[Demon Disciple 11,135]

It's specualtive what may happen to us, re: draft picks, whether this year or future years. Thus casting in doubt which direction we should go come draft time, not knowing if it may be our last decent pick for a while. Do we go with the outside skill and pace we crave, or the crash and bash physicality that Neeld wants and appears the direction in which footy is heading?

It's a tough choice, but contested ball is king. The first team to get their hands on the ball, gains the advantage. Sydney showed this over Hawthorn's polish in the GF.

We simply must draft Wines. Sure Toumpas is an absolute gem of a player too, i'd have him ahead of Wines currently, plus his scope for improvement is greater, imo. However, going by this article, http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/todd-viney-well-aware-of-the-competitive-nature-of-potential-draftee-ollie-wines/story-e6frf9io-1226509826657, Wines wants to play for us! Despite all that's going on around us, he still wants to play for us with his best mate. There is but no other choice than Wines.

This one excerpt alone, is the reason why we need him. "One club scout recently said if Wines landed at Melbourne there would be "explosions" in the centre square, adamant the pair were the toughest inside midfielders in the draft pool."

[Alcho Dee 269]

If we don't get him this year, maybe we can pinch him off GWS in a couple of years time.

[Alcho Dee 269]

DETERMINATION

[Grimseyisgod 378]

If we don't get him this year, maybe we can pinch him off GWS in a couple of years time.

Yeah thats going to be an option for all clubs.

In 1-3 years it will be the chance and time to poach off GWS and Gold Coast, just like they poached our players.

Lets hurt them more than, they hurt us with Scully!

[Deecisive 1,663]

J not so sure they hurt us with $cully but saved us from the high cost of trying to keep $cully... no way was he worth anything like what melbourne would have offered to keep him, I think will spend to compensation picks and $$'s we save on him to get pretty good players.

[bjDee 1,249]

About 20,000 more members - give us critical mass, make the players and FD and admin more accountable for performance.

[FNQ Demon 180]

gun midfielder. end of story

100% Gun midfielder.

[ChaserJ 4,009]

Just on the general theme of list management and filling a clubs needs, a really nice piece released by Rob Kerr (via AFL.com.au), the National Talent Manager at the Lions. Goes through the Lions strategy during the free agency and trade period and the areas they felt they required strengthening in.

He also provides some thoughts on our CHF of the future Jesse Hogan. Lions were apparently right into him, with a view to installing him as Jonathan Brown’s successor. Worth a read.

http://www.afl.com.au/tabid/208/default.aspx?newsid=150840

[old55 21,642]

Just on the general theme of list management and filling a clubs needs, a really nice piece released by Rob Kerr (via AFL.com.au), the National Talent Manager at the Lions. Goes through the Lions strategy during the free agency and trade period and the areas they felt they required strengthening in.

He also provides some thoughts on our CHF of the future Jesse Hogan. Lions were apparently right into him, with a view to installing him as Jonathan Brown’s successor. Worth a read.

http://www.afl.com.a...x?newsid=150840

Very good read - unusually candid.

[H_T 2,941]

Just on the general theme of list management and filling a clubs needs, a really nice piece released by Rob Kerr (via AFL.com.au), the National Talent Manager at the Lions. Goes through the Lions strategy during the free agency and trade period and the areas they felt they required strengthening in.

He also provides some thoughts on our CHF of the future Jesse Hogan. Lions were apparently right into him, with a view to installing him as Jonathan Brown’s successor. Worth a read.

http://www.afl.com.a...x?newsid=150840

Found this bit interesting regarding the wait on ruck rules: -

Initially his manager indicated some reluctance to consider Brisbane given we have Leuenberger and Longer as young rucks on our list. On that basis discussions stalled until the new ruck rules were announced. At this point the coaches felt that the days of the wrestling ruckman were numbered and that athleticism and versatility were going to become even more critical for ruckmen. On that basis, we re-engaged with Stefan and his management and discussed how he might fit on the Lions’ list.

[Grimseyisgod 378]

in my opinion it might not be about what we are lacking..

its what we are waiting for to develop.

If trenners, Sylvia, Tmac and a couple of others bring there game up to another level. we wont be lacking that much

[Demonsterative 2,103]

Curently we are lacking 50 to 70 games into Jack Viney, Ollie Wines, Rory Taggert, Max Gawn and Jessie Hogan. Once all these players finish their apprenticeship we will have the depth to go with Trengove, Clark, Frawley, Jones, Mc Donald, Blease, Dawes, and Grimes.

The future looks good

[Grimseyisgod 378]

Curently we are lacking 50 to 70 games into Jack Viney, Ollie Wines, Rory Taggert, Max Gawn and Jessie Hogan. Once all these players finish their apprenticeship we will have the depth to go with Trengove, Clark, Frawley, Jones, Mc Donald, Blease, Dawes, and Grimes.

The future looks good

I agree the future looks bright. But 50-70 games for all those players is going to take 3-4 years.

I want to be in the eight by 2 years, im sick of losing

[Demonsterative 2,103]

I agree the future looks bright. But 50-70 games for all those players is going to take 3-4 years.

I want to be in the eight by 2 years, im sick of losing

I would hope we are challenging for a top 4 position going into finals by the time these guys are at the 70 game mark.

[John Crow Batty 8,309]

Our list relative to the comp is as least as good as other middle of the road clubs. Our Major problems are exclusively off field. Never seen a football side play with so much apathy and disinterest as last season. This tanking issue may be a huge blessing in disguise. Finally may rid us of the real cause of our arrested development and lack of soul. A few draft picks lost as punishment pale into comparison with the mismangaement of a genaration of our young hopefuls.

[Curry & Beer 5,444]

I want to be in the eight by 2 years, im sick of losing

and I want to do the no-pants-dance with Kate Upton but wishing aint gonna make it so

[Grimseyisgod 378]

and I want to do the no-pants-dance with Kate Upton but wishing aint gonna make it so

you did not need to make that comment, as you were probably fishing for likes.

It's not about wishing.

its about having talented players and bringing in experienced players, and them finally showing something as a group..

[Curry & Beer 5,444]

you did not need to make that comment, as you were probably fishing for likes.

It's not about wishing.

its about having talented players and bringing in experienced players, and them finally showing something as a group..

actually I did need write it, your comment was stupid. 'I want to play finals now' that's great mate. I would like to win the flag now. We are talking about the reality of the situation here. You don't want to wait 3-4 years for players to mature well there is no way around that one is there. So maybe you should think through your own posts before criticising others