James Frawley a forward?

[Chelly 759]

Well, this was raised and dismissed previously but with a new coach and a blank canvas there are no preconceived notions.

This tweet came from James Frawley's twitter-

"Playing forward this year. Prob kick 100!!"

Great idea if Sellar's move to defence is a success. Could free Chip to help up forward!

Then a later tweet-

"Sorry people hacked again by @tom_couch. Wish I could swing forward occasionally though! Ha"

But is it so funny?

[Freak 100]

one of the most ridiculous things I've heard ...no offence! We have short memories. It wasn't long ago that we were starved of a decent KP defender. Now we finally get a great one and we want to move him forward? Frawley is our best defender by a country mile and moving him forward would be a terrible move. Frawley isn't even noted for his accurate kicking, something that is a must, to be a successful forward, barring a couple of exceptions

[rolly 149]

he did play alot of his juniour footy as a forward iirc but it would be a massive waste...we bought mitch clark for a reason, we got watts for a reason and we got tommy mc for a reason.

why would u move an AA defender unless there was a massive reason?

[Lutz 76]

Uh... NO.

[Good Times Grimes 2,396]

We'll have enough trouble fitting all our forwards into the line-up anyway. Frawley is required in the backline.

Up forward we have (off the top of my head, forgive me if I forget someone) Watts, Clark, Petterd, T. McDonald, Howe, Blease, Davey, Jurrah, Dunn, Green.

That's 10 people for 6 spots. Down back we have not as many options, and nobody who could match it with Franklin's, Cloke's, Goodes's as well as Chip. It would be a complete waste to use him as a forward.

[Chook 14,677]

The only thing I could imagine us doing is putting Frawley in the middle for a couple of minutes to change things up when we need a bit of physical toughness and strength. I certainly would not be putting him in our forward line any time soon.

[Rhino Richards 1,467]

As likely as Jake Spencer playing a crumbing role in the FP.

[Robbie57 1,996]

Must be summer....

[Nasher 33,246]

Our backline ain't broke, so let's fix it by moving Frawley out of it.

[Striker475 696]

Moving an AA defender to the forward line...even I'm not that silly

[McQueen 17,864]

But is it so funny?

I don't think funny is the word.

I reckon there's more pleasure in watching Chippa mark and rebound off the backline, have a few bounces and slot one from 50m+ on the odd occasion.

[pitchfork 181]

two words: Matthew Scarlett

- Geelong have had some pretty average footballers rotating through their forward line, even in premiership years

[Supermercado 2,682]

Maybe if he was no good as a defender... but fortunately for us he's an absolute gun.

Still, I'm not again desperation switches and random five minutes moves to throw the opposition off when nothing else works.

[rpfc 27,677]

For this to happen Sellar would have to come in and be a better pure defender than Frawley right off the bat, McDonald would have to come in and do what Sellar was earmarked to do (whatver you believe that to be) right off the bat, and Neeld would have to be hit in the head - right off the middle of the bat.

Not going to happen.

(Although Freak's post did unsettle me...)

[Barney Rubble 1,576]

Never say never.

Best ever CHB one David Neitz to FF

Who would have thought?

[old55 21,861]

I was one who suggested it last year, but with Clark's arrival it shouldn't be required. It's borne of the idea that Frawley's skills are wasted in a primary defensive lock-down role.

[rolly 149]

Never say never.

Best ever CHB one David Neitz to FF

Who would have thought?

he was only moved forward because there were so few other options...good time grimes stated 10players for 6spots and that was without jetta, fitzpatrick or sylvia...if all of the above fail then why not throw him forward the season would already be in the shitter

[old55 21,861]

For this to happen Sellar would have to come in and be a better pure defender than Frawley right off the bat,

This is where your logic is flawed in the other thread too. Sellar doesn't have to be a better lock-down defender than Frawley, he doesn't even have to be as good - it's highly uinlikely that he will be. He just has to be adequate. The attacking benefits that Frawley delivers when freed of this limiting role outweigh any loss of lock-down - that's the crux or the argument. If someone really starts to get away from Sellar and the balance of benefits swings then Frawley and Sellar can switch because by definition Frawley is on a less dangerous opponent. BTW I'm not arguing that Frawley play forward here.

Bob's example of the 2008 GF was a very good one Scarlett limited Franklin but Hawthorn still won.

[rolly 149]

This is where your logic is flawed in the other thread too. Sellar doesn't have to be a better lock-down defender than Frawley, he doesn't even have to be as good - it's highly uinlikely that he will be. He just has to be adequate. The attacking benefits that Frawley delivers when freed of this limiting role outweigh any loss of lock-down - that's the crux or the argument. If someone really starts to get away from Sellar then Frawley and Sellar can switch because by definition Frawley is on a less dangerous opponent.

Bob's example of the 2008 GF was a very good one Scarlett limited Franklin but Hawthorn still won.

What about the 13 forwards we already have?(not even counting the rookies)

[old55 21,861]

what about the 13 forwards we already have?(not even counting the rookies)

If you read my post earlier in the thread I said that with the arrival of Clark, any merits of a move forward for Frawley are seriously diminished. I was ctually referring to a discussion in another thread (16th March training - http://demonland.com...post__p__518129) where I suggested Sellar could free Frawley to play an attacking role in defence. The key point is that Frawley is wasted as a lock-down defender.

[Guest Thomo]

The only thing I could imagine us doing is putting Frawley in the middle for a couple of minutes to change things up when we need a bit of physical toughness and strength. I certainly would not be putting him in our forward line any time soon.

Love the idea of Frawley having the occasional run on the ball to break up a game.

There was a thread on it last year, but i think E25 was opposed to it got a few of his alias's to shout down anyone that disagreed with him and ruined it.

[Jordie_tackles 354]

Moving an AA defender to the forward line...even I'm not that silly

Neitz

[rolly 149]

If you read my post earlier in the thread I said that with the arrival of Clark, any merits of a move forward for Frawley are seriously diminished. I was ctually referring to a discussion in another thread (16th March training - http://demonland.com...post__p__518129) where I suggested Sellar could free Frawley to play an attacking role in defence. The key point is that Frawley is wasted as a lock-down defender.

right you are, at this point i would like to withdraw my accusation and replace it with an agreement that if sellar can take the FF then frawley would make a brilliant rebounding defender and furthermore i hope to see this unfold. frawley has the pace and the ability to play this role brilliantly the only thing missing from the equation is sellar being good enough. fingers crossed he is

[simma02 53]

Silly thread. Frawley is a backman, with the option of pushing up the ground for short periods if required.

[PeterJames 46]

Don't mind a pinch hit option at times but not only is he our best defender he is so good at rebounding from defence. But yeah now with Clark and others coming along dont see the point.