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willmoy    920
1 hour ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Are you the new Riddler! :) 

Sicily or Puopolo?  Rioli even?

Yes to Sicily - right age group and can play. 

No to Puopolo - he is already 30 and is slowing down.  Don't need anymore of those.

More information please?  Or are you just stirring the pot :rolleyes:

Well, that worked a treat, changed the subject, gave a sniff as to what a good Lewis would and should be doing to help his new side and brightened up everyone's night. However i do think there could be a bit of smoke here, if the truth be known. Daintree isn't Hawthorn Station Bridge.

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Danelska    708
19 minutes ago, willmoy said:

Well, that worked a treat, changed the subject, gave a sniff as to what a good Lewis would and should be doing to help his new side and brightened up everyone's night. However i do think there could be a bit of smoke here, if the truth be known. Daintree isn't Hawthorn Station Bridge.

stop talking in code @willmoy - lets see if you can act in line with your interest of 'truth'.

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willmoy    920
9 minutes ago, Danelska said:

stop talking in code @willmoy - lets see if you can act in line with your interest of 'truth'.

Sorry, i forget sometimes.....

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Pennant St Dee    3,339
1 hour ago, binman said:

I really appreciate your insight of wa players psd. In fact demonland has a number of really switched on wa based dees fans.

Do you have a sense of how the wafl compares to the vfl in terms of relative strength. 30 years ago the wafl and sanfl churned out afl ready players. Is it my imagination that has reduced (note to potential dl pedants i now the landscape is different and i deliberately picked a post afl time frame)?

WAFL certainly not what it used to be many clubs struggling like the stand alone VFL Clubs. East Freo the once powerhouse have been down for a long time and are heavily in debt. Perth are also a long perennial struggler and local fans have lost faith with the WAFC who run the game here. Everything here is about the 2 AFL Clubs and around 2011/12 when the competition was starting to find its feet again with an even spread. The WAFC crumbled to Meth Coast and Freo pressure and decided to align the AFL Clubs which started in 2013 and the comp has been in decline ever since.

There is a massive focus on draft numbers now but to muchb focus is towards developing elite top end talent which I understand somewhat but I feel we will see fewer late bloomers coming through the WAFL system.

There is a decent group from WA coming through in the next couple of years but I hate to think how many real driven players who would run through brick walls will be lost through the elite pathways focus

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DV8    196
4 hours ago, willmoy said:

We are not finished with the Italian side of hawthorn........

Puopolo?

3 hours ago, Jibroni said:

Changing the subject it appears Kelly will be signing on with the Giants, was just reported on AFL360.

so maybe shiel is on the market.

1 hour ago, Pennant St Dee said:

WAFL certainly not what it used to be many clubs struggling like the stand alone VFL Clubs. East Freo the once powerhouse have been down for a long time and are heavily in debt. Perth are also a long perennial struggler and local fans have lost faith with the WAFC who run the game here. Everything here is about the 2 AFL Clubs and around 2011/12 when the competition was starting to find its feet again with an even spread. The WAFC crumbled to Meth Coast and Freo pressure and decided to align the AFL Clubs which started in 2013 and the comp has been in decline ever since.

There is a massive focus on draft numbers now but to muchb focus is towards developing elite top end talent which I understand somewhat but I feel we will see fewer late bloomers coming through the WAFL system.

There is a decent group from WA coming through in the next couple of years but I hate to think how many real driven players who would run through brick walls will be lost through the elite pathways focus

The afl is killing grass roots footy, because of the saturation on TV.  Sorry, the money is destroying the game, from the grass roots end.

So kids are playing Jnr's, but the 2nd tier seniors, is dying from suffocation. As is country footy.

 

TV saturation steals from the code, because people have had more than their fill, before leaving home.

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binman    6,079
1 hour ago, Pennant St Dee said:

WAFL certainly not what it used to be many clubs struggling like the stand alone VFL Clubs. East Freo the once powerhouse have been down for a long time and are heavily in debt. Perth are also a long perennial struggler and local fans have lost faith with the WAFC who run the game here. Everything here is about the 2 AFL Clubs and around 2011/12 when the competition was starting to find its feet again with an even spread. The WAFC crumbled to Meth Coast and Freo pressure and decided to align the AFL Clubs which started in 2013 and the comp has been in decline ever since.

There is a massive focus on draft numbers now but to muchb focus is towards developing elite top end talent which I understand somewhat but I feel we will see fewer late bloomers coming through the WAFL system.

There is a decent group from WA coming through in the next couple of years but I hate to think how many real driven players who would run through brick walls will be lost through the elite pathways focus

Thanks PSD.

Interesting comment about the focus on elite end talent. I think it is similar here to an extent with the investment in and focus on the TAC cup. That said underneath the VFL we have some pretty strong comps and rookies coming through the VFL and even lower comps are making their mark across the AFL so perhaps the WC and frea are pulling the wrong rein.

Interesting that Sydney have a number of players that came up through the NEAFL. Rampe being one (he also played in the VFL). I don't have any sense of how strong that league is. Can some of the erstwhile Sydney demonlanders comment? Hardtack?

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puntkick    122
On ‎12‎/‎09‎/‎2017 at 8:56 PM, Moonshadow said:

Party culture? Can I go there?....

Just contact JJ 'n Libba's hairdresser .I await the Brownlow votes with eager anticipation !

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puntkick    122
On ‎12‎/‎09‎/‎2017 at 9:04 PM, bing181 said:

As good a place as any, though I'd be very surprised if anything came of it. Still ...

"It is understood the Suns sought out Melbourne assistant and Level Four coach Jade Rawlings for a preliminary discussion. It is not clear if the 39-year-old will be formally interviewed. Rawlings has been the Demons' backline assistant since 2012 and has developed a strong resume through stints with the Brisbane Lions and Richmond, where he was caretaker coach for 11 rounds in 2009. "

Upon reading your post I got out my prayer rug , faced the west ,head butted the carpet and wailed " take our other Richmond forward coach too " !

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puntkick    122
On ‎12‎/‎09‎/‎2017 at 10:42 PM, bing181 said:

Watch this space. The game is becoming a congested slog as players lurch from one contest to the next, broken up each time not by clearing the ball but by the umpires stepping in to put everyone out of their misery. Will be interesting to see what if anything the AFL and the Rules Committee do.

For the moment, I don't know that I'd be putting all my recruiting eggs into insiders only - even if we did just see the Bombers bundled out because of a lack of them.

Don't lose sight of the MAIN FACT that the AFL is out to gain the heart and minds of the remaining Rugby and Polo states.

Once they achieve that and gain total financial dominance then its only a short step away from forming a true political party and wiping out the two other ineptives and they govern the land !

Should I not be around for that could one of you give a shout out respectively to me

The Schwab dynasty of F'ups should never be forgotten

Alan sent to Sydney to fix the Swannies ,fell asleep in his bed.We still await the coronial enquiry results !

Camerons a legend and should never be forgotten 

Peter in his comeback season to AFL HQ in an umpiring position has proven why we all hate umpires . Pittard on Petrie ,its an automatic reversal !

 

 

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jackaub    1,064
11 hours ago, A F said:

Players develop at individual rates. Fancy that.

Yes and many at mfc never do know that!

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beelzebub    15,405

Not a rumour, just an observation that might colour rumours.

NO ONE wants to go to North !! 

Not for all the tea in china.

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Dee tention    119
30 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

Not a rumour, just an observation that might colour rumours.

NO ONE wants to go to North !! 

Not for all the tea in china.

Looking ahead. North/AFL will be ramping up games in Tassie with Hawthorn forced to exit. I can see North playing 8 games a season in Tassie within 2-3 years.

That would be off putting for any player. Who the heck would want to play that many games in cold and windy conditions.

I think player managers are onto this...

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brendan    1,093
5 minutes ago, Dee tention said:

Looking ahead. North/AFL will be ramping up games in Tassie with Hawthorn forced to exit. I can see North playing 8 games a season in Tassie within 2-3 years.

That would be off putting for any player. Who the heck would want to play that many games in cold and windy conditions.

I think player managers are onto this...

Good they can [censored] off to tassie and die a slow death, might as well change there name to the tassie Roos 

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willmoy    920
10 hours ago, DV8 said:

...

No, not Poppy DV8, just a hunch......

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beelzebub    15,405
26 minutes ago, Dee tention said:

Looking ahead. North/AFL will be ramping up games in Tassie with Hawthorn forced to exit. I can see North playing 8 games a season in Tassie within 2-3 years.

That would be off putting for any player. Who the heck would want to play that many games in cold and windy conditions.

I think player managers are onto this...

would this be the same if they  were looking at joining the Sqawks  ( when in contention) ?

I get your point though. I just think its as much about the Kangapoos being on the nose as much as anything.

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Zoiikgarden    53
49 minutes ago, brendan said:

Good they can [censored] off to tassie and die a slow death, might as well change there name to the tassie Roos 

Thanks for that!!  I'm in Tassie - we don't want them either!

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daisycutter    13,790
3 hours ago, brendan said:

Good they can [censored] off to tassie and die a slow death, might as well change there name to the tassie Roos 

tassie pademelons

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BAMF    1,287
3 hours ago, stevethemanjordan said:

Your issue if you can't spot the differences.

 

Zero difference.

Zero issues.

Edit: p.s. I don't necessarily disagree with your opinion of Weideman. Just pointing how hypocritical your post was.

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Satyriconhome    5,078
1 hour ago, BAMF said:

Zero difference.

Zero issues.

Edit: p.s. I don't necessarily disagree with your opinion of Weideman. Just pointing how hypocritical your post was.

Hypocrisy has developed into an art form on Demonland

 

Can somebody tell me 3 reasons why we need another small fwd and AFL website says we do is not one

If we keep everybody and get everyone fit, it is consistent fwd pressure we need from every fwd, doesn't necessarily have to be small, everybody is getting sucked in by Richmond model as they did with Bulldogs last year

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It's Time    1,207
17 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

Hypocrisy has developed into an art form on Demonland

 

Can somebody tell me 3 reasons why we need another small fwd and AFL website says we do is not one

If we keep everybody and get everyone fit, it is consistent fwd pressure we need from every fwd, doesn't necessarily have to be small, everybody is getting sucked in by Richmond model as they did with Bulldogs last year

My definition of a small forward attributes are not in order :

1. Elite speed

2. Uncanny ability to read the play

3. Ability to get in the right place to collect balls off packs

4. Ability to lead to the right more obscure place to create non existent opportunity and goal.

5. Elite kicking for goal from difficult positions

6. Apply great forward pressure. Like the man who  invented it. Mr A Davey.  

7. Etc Etc

Jeffy is the only one who has those attributes. Ideally you need two in the team. You also need some who can come in when Jeffy has his annual form slump or gets injured. 

Maye Dion Johnston will become one but I don't believe he has that burst speed. JKH doesn't have it and not a great kick for goal. Trac has it all but is more a high half forward slash midfielder. I guess Melksham has shown a bit of all of that but again more as a high half forward. ANB too but without the elite speed and without the elite any of the above but has it at a non elite level. 

Put this together and you get more than 3 reasons why we need more small forwards. :mellow:

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