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Paul Roos is an amazing man. Can't wait to see how he coaches Melbourne, West Coast and Essendon next year.

i don't care what anyone says - as someone who used to go see the swans on a regular basis at the scg and stadium australia during roos' tenure they were incredibly exciting to watch. quick ball movement off half back through the run and dare of the likes of barry, kennelly, et al, a big power forward in hall, a smart mid-sized forward in o'loughlin, and in adam goodes one of the best players of the era. they had a blue-collar midfield who worked incredibly hard for one another. this is why i want roos; i believe he instils a real team ethic in a group of average players to the point where they were able to win their first premiership in 72 years. as i've said before, i also think he brings a 'whole of club' mentality; people i know who worked at the swans say that he was a brilliant communicator with all levels of the business.

I make up mock headlines and blogs and turn to home schooling. Stupid question.

Why oh bloody why did it take so long if Mitch was never going to play again this season? Good news though, I still think he can be more than the plodder everyone pigeon holes him as.

Ok... Come Lord Jesus, live in me as I live in You. I love You. I will follow You every day of my life, a life without end. Thank you for loving me into Your kingdom! Amen.

Imagine how many teams he'd be coaching if he *was* interested in coaching again!

at this stage if we scored a point and played keepings off for 120 minutes I would take it

I agree. I think the $1.12 is great value.

Winning a premiership would have been pretty exciting as well.

He works in mysterious ways

2026? Crazy talk. 2036 we should be pushing for 10th with the right drafting and Schwabby at the helm.

I want Craig to stay. But he is not the senior coach GC are $1.13 favourites this week That is how bad we are. We MUST aquire a Premiership WINNING Coach to resurrect this sorry club that i love like family.

I seriously doubt that FDStrauss is very average on a good day

Magner not even an emergency. Seems very odd to me. I'm actually more bemused that Strauss still can't get a game despite being consistently in the best at Casey for 5 or 6 weeks now. He is more of a chance of being a long term player for us than Magner.

Good luck to him, well earned and overdue. Can we just clarify early that those who are supportive of this decision do not necessarily think he is the solution to all our midfield problems? Seems to come up EVERY SINGLE TIME so just wanted to pre-empt such comments.

Appointing the right coach is absolutely imperative for contributing to build a football club's traits such as culture, belief, work ethic, discipline etc etc. There is no arguing that. However, what is equally important, is drafting and trading for the kinds of players who will absolutely take to these principles and structures that are set in place and pick this club out of the hole it's in, thrusting it straight back up to where it needs to be. This is about drafting smart, hungry, desperate and skilled footballers and weeding out current players who are victims of the current environment and who cannot and will not respond to any sort of coach. When I watch James Frawley play, I think to myself, "Wow, here's a guy who just doesn't have the awareness or consciousness to be able to grab this group by the scruff and take them forward". Now, James has been absolutely blessed when it comes to his physical build, speed, agility and (most of the time), footballing skills. When it comes to his capacity to think, his awareness and his level of consciousness, he really falls behind. This is about having a holistic understanding of what it takes to be a leader amongst men and building a strong and successful footy club with people and players who have a consciousness bigger than the size of a golf ball. Tom Harley is someone who has left a legacy at the cats. He and Frawley have a very similar physical attributes, however one helped transform a club. Frawley is simply another sheep, happy to beat his man, not have much to say, not care to inspire nor willing to change his ways. He can't. He is a victim of the MFC's environment and he has a limited capacity to think. He is one example. I'm not having a pot shot. He is one of many who are sick and dumb. Sylvia, Jamar, Davey, Dunn. These players all suffer from the same thing to varying degrees and the more players you draft in with limited capacities to think and who are expected to be inspired by the above crop of players will also suffer. That is strictly a recruiting problem though. We could go further back to the days of Yze, Robbo, White etc who also saw AFL as just a kick in the park but I won't go into it. It's top down stuff and we've heard it all before. Coach, board, recruitment, development, and players are all as important as each other. If we got Paul Roos tomorrow and had the same list, I would be confident to say we would still lose to the Suns on the weekend. The problems at MFC run deep. Stop neglecting the deep, psychological complexities that most of the playing group suffer from. No coach can change conditioning.

Why are there people still complaining that Roos' game style is ugly to watch? For one, he'd be pushing a different style now. It's 2013, not 2005 or 2010. It would be on the back though of strong, hard running, fierceness at the ball, discipline and courage. What horrible traits to have. And secondly, if Roos got us winning, yes, that's right. I said winning, not one MFC supporter should give a toss about the game style. That is the aim of the game. We have witnessed seven seasons of absolute crap. How about choosing to win for a change?

your right OD, In business where money is involved the truth has "no place" in the order of things material. this is why sport is gradually, & seriously Losing its integrity.... it treats everyone with 'contempt' in its pursuit of status. the irony is, how can you have real status (willingly given by adoring public), when you give out contempt. their like politicians, play the same sort of game. 'the status' the Sports are trying to create, is a fictional one where they control it like a tap... a bit like the media, & journos on the drip feed...

I had to wear boxing gloves to bed as a child. Is it that sort of thing?

The good Lord works in mysterious ways my friend, but even he has his limitations

I've come to the conclusion that the MFC is the ultimate troll. It's got us all hooked, and is now proceeding to screw with our minds on a weekly basis just for the fun of it.

this is a really strange club df26

Knightmare knows his stuff, he is a good dude and he puts his material up for others benefit. He doesn't boast and rave on that he is an authority on drafting. Take opinions of his and others on board, watch the players and come to your own conclusions. Drafting isn't exact science and great junior players don't always make it in the AFL. IMO clubs should be looking more into the mental make up of certain individuals than they do. On James Aish, it will be interesting where he goes. I personally think he is a bit too outside for our club. But blokes who knows more about Aish than myself say that Aish is an outside/inside player. So, perhaps maybe his shoulder injury has him treading more carefully this year. One thing I like about Aish is that he has the blood lines for football, he comes from a renowned footy family. I'd still have Sheed ahead of Aish and if we do get two picks, I'd take both and then look for another inside mid with 19. * This is if we can't trade one of our pick. I spoke to my cousin this week, who watches a lot of SANFL and he rates Aish higher than Toumpas, who he didn't rate that highly. But in saying that, he said he rated Trengove higher than both in the SANFL.

Slashed his wrists ? We can only hope.

Imagination is more important than knowledge. She doesn't need to know the hard facts just yet. We are winning every week and that's all she needs to know. I'm going to adopt the same theory with my son and save him from early developmental problems bought about by perpetual loss. Screw the truth.

It's no worse than saying Santa Claus exists.

I hope Spencer kicks some arse. I reckon he'll be a player.

How on earth does Davey retain his place........ Gets the subs vest, cracks the sads, sits on the pine with f all interst then does nothing. So typical of the rubbish leadership provided by our senior players and what happens? He gets another game! Jesus H Christ on a Popsicle stick. I give up.

Exciting for Davis. Worked hard and deserves a chance. Good luck to him.

That would be a truly remarkable game plan!

Not true... you gave the thread the provocative title of "We could lose Jesse Hogan" and then opened with the line "Its been reported today that Jesse wont agree to a contract extension." which was a complete fabrication. Slight difference.

Players "get it" at different times. It also helps if you have others to bounce off. Matty Scarlett was on 3AW last night and admitted that the penny didn't drop for him until he was 25 and thankfully there were a couple of others that shared his determination to make a change. How old is Frawley and who has he had to bounce off ? Garland and Jones maybe, among a dysfunctional environment. That's about it. I wouldn't blame Frawley too much for our predicament.

If we brought in only what you think are guaranteed talents - we would have half a list. The fact is that we need to look at turining some fringe youngsters at other clubs into dependable players for us. We will only have a small chance to get good Free Agents, we will only have a finite number of top 5 picks. We need to bring in players we see as big improvers because that are players we can actually recruit. And it is the same mindset that brought in Matt Jones, Terlich, and Clisby. 3 of our 4 hardest running players. If there are similar (there would be better) fringe players at other AFL clubs - get them to the Dees.

You can do what you like. Personally i would watch HBO or Breaking Bad rather than Melbourne getting smashed every week or even old John Northey coached games. They were real football matches. The past 2 boards & coaches have put this club on life support. THE REALITY is that the AFL viewing audience is not watching games Melbourne are involved in because we are that bad. PJ was headhunted by the AFL for us, to get this mess sorted. We will be competitive & thus cannot punt on an untried coach.

I can't believe that some people on here are still in favour of an untried coach. It cannot happen. After 2 absolute failures the club is in recievership right now. We need an experienced coach who will bring more than hope. We need guarranteed action. The TV deal cannot have another year of dead matches that nobody watches. Please understand this. The TV Networks are not pleased, selling advertising space for a Melbourne game right now is very slow and cheap. The are losing money.

Some one saw Roos on a flight to Essendon airport at 3:25 am this morning?

Geez, that is informative. Elaborate?

Begin the campaign to discredit his character for father-son bidding purposes............

Thats right, we've already got a few of THOSE on board !!

It was an unfortunate end to a great Test Match. And as the locals warned us, "you're in Manchester, we get a lot of rain here"... even many staff and shop keepers went as far as apologising for the abysmal weather late day4/day5. More depressing was the clearing of weather and sunshine from 5pm-8pm (8pm here is still very much light) Five points I would like to make or emphasise my previous points before I embark on a trip to the land much well known to our late Jim Stynes:- * Michael Clarke is a must watch. Sensational batsman and tactically a great captain. * Peter Siddle and Ryan Harris are work horses with the ball in hand. Consistent, reliable, bowlers who get the job done (when fit). * Steve Smith is a good player of spin and an improving middle order batsman for Australia. * Chris Rogers impressed. Has a mountain of runs behind him and bristled with experience at the crease when needed. (84 first dig) which helped take advantage of winning the toss. * There was ever only one Shane Warne. (It's a pretty simple message but I've made it here before many a time). We were very fortunate to have him playing for Australia; near impossible to replace.

Many seem to only associate Roos with negative football, yet towards the end of his tenure, the Swans were playing some very exciting football; he is very adaptable and definitely NOT a one trick pony.

What exactly does "move on" mean? Do you think PJ is sitting in a room building a shrine to Roos? Ignoring all other possibilities, waiting til Sept 20 for one last ditch attempt, with a fallback plan of calling both Eade & Williams only if and when Roos says "definitely NO"? There's a bloody process in place. A coach selection board has been formed. Stop and think.

As another aspect I think its important as a club that we convey to the players the idea that we are really intent on lifting our game as as proof we arent 'experimenting" any more with an untried ( no matter how nice and shiny they look ) we have gone and got a REAL coach., we value you as players and feel you need this. I have to admit if I were a player on a list of a club where all I ever saw was a procession of untrieds resulting in failure Id be less than impressed if they were thinking of serving up the same. The club needs to be fair dinkum, the players need to respond likewise. Im not really keen on a 'succession ' plan either. I just want a coach who's able who can be there ( all things equal) for the duration Im not keen on someone with one eye already on the door. I have my preference but could live with others.

At least Sellar and Gillies might be available this week! Look out, Gold Coast!

I was 19 when I started posting here. I was 22 when my first was born, and her grinning baby face was my avatar for years before the forum software wiped it in an upgrade two years ago, and I haven't bothered to replace it. I turn 30 later this year. I think that about tells the story :-)

I know I'm an intolerant bastard, but jeez I get annoyed when people blatantly misrepresent facts. Comprehension fail.

He's a photographer from W.A but now lives in Melbourne.

I don't recall him even acknowledging we existed that day. Neita was most gracious in defeat. We owe them much pain and suffering.

Now for some good news, according to the injury report Mitch is back Running and training with the Rehab group, and his foot is actually going quite well