I'm actually very annoyed at the previous administration for all their BS.

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17 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

Of course. But with the hand we had I dont think they could have played it any better to this point

Its all good in insight so why don't you tell us what you would have done differently?

Lets wait and see...there are still some on the board who oversaw this mess.

There is a lot of work to be done but we should have a pretty good idea if we're in good hands or not by the end of this season.

A bit too early to call yet.

9 hours ago, bing181 said:

Interesting that it was Guerra who set the ball rolling, even before he became CEO. I always suspected that it had come from Green with Richardson close behind.

Also interesting that Lamb was part of the decision making on Trac etc, thought all that might have come from higher-ups and the FD (Richardson again)with Lamb etc. not really in the loop.

In the 6 months prior to starting I know he had many meetings with stakeholders to gauge the lay of the land.

He walked most Thursdays with Goodwin around the Tan.

My expectations of him were very low coming from an Industry Body and a non-football background but he hasn't placed a foot wrong yet IMO. And he has taken some bold decisions (and/or convinced others to do so) that I didn't see coming. Eg I thiought his 'closeness' to Goodwin would result in Goodwin staying.

We all get wrapped up in the players but its the club I follow. Players come and go and whilst our Premiership heroes hold a special place once they start to destroy the fabric of the place and inhibit progress hard decisions need to be made.

An outsider coming in (like a Peter jackson) can be more clear eyed about decisions that need to be made to move forward. Workplaces can become toxic - and the MFC clearly was both on field and off - leading to making tough decisions.

If you look simply at the trajectory of our club on field it could not stay the same with any expectation of different results.

I applaud the decisions whether or not they turn out to be the right ones. The whole vibe of the players and the club has been renewed and there is an excitement about the what is in store.

1 minute ago, rjay said:

Lets wait and see...there are still some on the board who oversaw this mess.

There is a lot of work to be done but we should have a pretty good idea if we're in good hands or not by the end of this season.

A bit too early to call yet.

No ones calling the results yet but if you read above I don't think we had a choice.

Footy clubs are filled with people with passion and less so with pragmatic business decision makers.

We have had a big clean out on and off the field and I am happy we can enjoy the ride once again,

21 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Its interesting.. I recall some supporters on this very forum last year were in denial snd quiet vocal in saying that our culture was actually fine and the vibe at training etc was great despite the results.

Those same supporters were also highly critical of the media when they were pretty much reporting the exact same thing that Guerra and Smith just acknowledged that were actually happening.

The fact that it took Guerra to come in and have the balls to make strong decisions on the club just proves that there was clearly a whole lot more toxicity within the club then what we realised.

My read is that it was a lot easier for Guerra to address the elephant in the room as an outsider. No one within the club wanted to be the guy to sack our only living premiership coach. Once Guerra forced the conversation everyone fell in line because it was the most obvious and sensible decision.

We’ve been very decisive but we had to be. We were clearly flat lining.

I like Steven king. He’s no nonsense. No bs corporate speak from him. I reckon the players will like and respond to him.

Whether that translates into him being a good head coach that can deliver wins only time will tell but I’m positive about his prospects.

Go dees

At Mental Demons on Wednesday night Max stated that Petracca refused to meet with King. Speaks volumes as to where the relationship was at.

Insightful piece.

I like this quote from King: “The issue isn’t teaching them the new game plan, it’s giving them the freedom to unlearn the old one. It’s removing components and letting them play instinctively”

He adds that the question remains - when challenged, “will we revert to the past or have the courage to keep moving forward together?”.

2 minutes ago, Salems Lot said:

At Mental Demons on Wednesday night Max stated that Petracca refused to meet with King. Speaks volumes as to where the relationship was at.

But they did talk on the phone - King was pretty busy with the GF at the time. We don't know the details of that discussion.

And from what we now know Lamb was hell bent on moving him, Oliver and May out. Trac would have known that from the exit interviews, mfc grapevine etc so it would be fair to say there was little value in meeting with King.

32 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

No ones calling the results yet but if you read above I don't think we had a choice.

Footy clubs are filled with people with passion and less so with pragmatic business decision makers.

We have had a big clean out on and off the field and I am happy we can enjoy the ride once again,

Not talking results...we've actually had some with the clean out.

My remark was to your quote that we're in good hands.

It's too early to tell.

...but I hope we are.

1 hour ago, Lucifers Hero said:

"King was open to keeping premiership stars if list boss Tim Lamb wanted to ... but Lamb made it clear that moving on Oliver, Petracca and May, even messily, was best for the club." With Goodwin gone Lamb had clear air to make critical list management decisions that were long overdue.

Great list management for both cultural reasons and also one eye on Tasmania entering the competition. Had to happen.

11 hours ago, MurDoc516 said:

I feel like the wording from Guerra to say "Past champions have left us and we wish them all the best" to finishing with "Our future will be brighter without Christian and Clayton" is rather harsh.

Those 2 boys are champions of our club and should be respected as such.

I understand your sentiment, but as Dazzle has stated, there'll be time - potentially decades - to revere their onfield exploits.

More than anything right now, this club needs some refreshing honesty and introspection.

52 minutes ago, BDA said:

We’ve been very decisive but we had to be. We were clearly flat lining.

I like Steven king. He’s no nonsense. No bs corporate speak from him. I reckon the players will like and respond to him.

Whether that translates into him being a good head coach that can deliver wins only time will tell but I’m positive about his prospects.

Go dees

It a breath of fresh air listening to King explain things so matter of factly. I tune out or start playing footy cliche bingo listening to some of the other coaches. Especially the Buckley and Voss types, full of ego and expertise. Imagine having to listen to figjam enlightening us each week on how the game should be played. No thanks!

Excellent insights.

Clean sheet. New era. Transparency. I love it!

Super read, thanks for sharing

No footy records in far northern nsw!

I believe there a lot of things that happened in the last two years that we will never heard about. It appears we wanted Oliver gone at any price. We virtually gave him to the giants. There is a lot more to his story that we will probably ever know. Mysterious visits to hospital. Time taken off for " personal issues". I just hope that this year we can finish the year in a mid ladder position.

Hopefully we have thrown the babies out with the bathwater

12 hours ago, MurDoc516 said:

I feel like the wording from Guerra to say "Past champions have left us and we wish them all the best" to finishing with "Our future will be brighter without Christian and Clayton" is rather harsh.

Those 2 boys are champions of our club and should be respected as such.

I feel like the club has done pretty well to turn the other cheek especially wrt Oliver.

1 hour ago, biggestred said:

I'm actually very annoyed at the previous administration for all their BS.

They blew smoke up our backsides.

The SEN interview put that out for all to see.

It seems winning a premiership covered up a lot of cracks & gave people a pass to get away with things & people not being held accountable for bad decisions

2 hours ago, Little Goffy said:

because of the "Great Enema of 25". (I'm trademarking that expression but Demonland members are welcome to use it)

aka ‘Demonic Irrigation’

14 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Absolutely well worth the read.

Great read…. The disconnect is evident of not being under 1 roof, would have been good to have heard what the issues were with trac, was it all around the fractured culture, his handling of his injuries, very clear they tried sweeping many issues under the carpet instead id making hard decisions on players.

It's not often this type of Story makes The Football Record!

Well done to all involved, wish it had happened 2 years ago, but the heavy lifting has been done

43 minutes ago, Demonsone said:

Great read…. The disconnect is evident of not being under 1 roof, would have been good to have heard what the issues were with trac, was it all around the fractured culture, his handling of his injuries, very clear they tried sweeping many issues under the carpet instead id making hard decisions on players.

There was not a lot of love from the other players towards Tracc. I'll leave it at that

2 hours ago, old dee said:

I believe there a lot of things that happened in the last two years that we will never heard about. It appears we wanted Oliver gone at any price. We virtually gave him to the giants. There is a lot more to his story that we will probably ever know. Mysterious visits to hospital. Time taken off for " personal issues". I just hope that this year we can finish the year in a mid ladder position.

You don't need to know any more about Oliver than the deal we took to extract Clarry from the club. It speaks for itself.