1 minute ago, Superunknown said:

Sure. The club needs to raise that, but that’s not the game. [censored] kicking was the game. Plus going to sleep in the last.

Flicked through a bit of the first and most of the second to watch that trip and throw circus again.

Ump 43 was 15m away by the looks btw.

There were three set shots straight in front from 20 to 30metres out by Fritsch, Spargo and Windsor just in 1.5 qtrs

Missed em all.

We actually played pretty damm well at times and our running and pressure was great.

Pros, just gotta fix the delivery and f50 effectiveness and we'll do alright.

Cons

This has been an issue for 4 seasons now

4 minutes ago, dees189227 said:

The miss by fritsch on quarter time

Both!

I said in round 1 when we had 6 debutants that we needed to temper expectations. This is a transition.

Today was rough but people need to be ready for a few more beltings, a few more strings of wins, a scalp or two, and overall an 7-9 win season. I've also said that 10 wins would be a huge win.

Keeping Pickett has to be an absolute priority for the club. As should be getting Jackson back.

We also need to go had for Worpul or however you spell his name. We missed out on Houston when we had him in the bag.

16 minutes ago, jaydenh10 said:

i thought roo did great in the ruck today?

I reckon AJ would be a better option at the moment.

14 minutes ago, bing181 said:

Because we had no other recognised tall backs with Petty and Lever out?

Just a thought.

Petty has been a fwd for the last 4-5 games & lever hast played most of the season, Turner would have been a better option… we are at sea in the fwd line

To have your 3 main forwards in JVR, Fritsch and Jefferson without one solitary goal between them is a disgrace when we totally dominated that 3rd quarter.

Umpires were absolutely pathetic and robbed us of any momentum at all.

Langford is a star .

Can’t think of any reason but fitness of why we are so poor in last quarters this season. What else could it be?

I’m definitely in the move Clarry on camp for next year , maybe we can target a key forward for him?

33 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

Bailey Fritsch. Congrats on your 4 disposal game

Shanked 2 sitters for goal 1 kick in each half. Stat less in the last

Baby keeping you up at night?

Just go now. Your intensity is pathetic

I think the level of his intensity this year is on par with his entire career.

And yes, it has been pathetic this year.

From the trackwatchers, it seems like there is no proper goalkicking practice, just the players practising boundary-line shots etc at their own pace and for fun.

The shots that need to be practised are the ones from 20-40m out, straight in front or in a slight angle. And they need to be practised A LOT!!!! Including by our captain!

You could’ve wrote the script for how that was going to end. Nice 3Qtrs but you knew the missed opportunities were going to come back to bite us in the [censored]. Everyone knew that & it played to script just perfectly.

List of liabilities are as follows:

JVR - there’s nothing that he can do at the moment that is right. Nothing!

Clarry - mentally it’s all over im afraid. No longer elite in close, nor damaging by hand like he once was. Always behind his direct opponent & is clearly unfit.

Fritsch - struts around in 1st gear without a care in the world. Work off the ball & team first approach is putrid.

Kozz was half invested today. That Freo game was a little while back now brother. Lacking consistency.

Langford & Lindsay - future is in good hands. Love em.

Honestly you two, what is it that you see in Jeffo @adonski @picket fence ??? Like seriously & respectfully.

43 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Who’s responsible for 8 out of the last 9 last quarter fade outs?

The change in the training schedule that came from the review.

5 minutes ago, Gibberish said:

It has been an ongoing issue that we have made little to no grounds on resolving.

We have made NO ground in improving our forward line since the 21 GF.

It’s time for Goodwin to go. He has had multiple yrs to fix the problem which an auskicker could see and NOTHING HAS WORKED.

And please someone anyone tell me whytf we don’t have a recognised forward coaching our forward line ffs. ITS NOT ROCKET SCIENCE.

Was I confident today. No.

So what annoys me is we were in it at 3/4 time. In fact we should have been a couple of goals in front.

Just now, dees189227 said:

Was I confident today. No.

So what annoys me is we were in it at 3/4 time. In fact we should have been a couple of goals in front.

Should have been 5 up.

49 minutes ago, SPC said:

Time to turn JVR into the greatest backman of the modern era

A reverse David Neitz, perhaps? Maybe, but first he needs to learn how to read the play.... And take one-grab marks.

Damn shame, played so good for 3 quarters. Missed Petty, Viney and Melksham..no doubt about that. We were a man down with Jefferson, he’s not ready. Langford will be a star.

4 things

1. Forward line is a joke. Fritsch. Jeffo. JVR. Spargo. All were useless. I would like to see ALL of them dropped this week if we could (but Casey not much better after today’s effort)

2. goalkicking accuracy. A key skill. Scoring. Goalkicking was poor. Killed us AGAIN. Missed chance after chance and should have been up by 3-4 goals at 3/4 Time

3. LAST QUARTER WAS DISHEARTENING. WE SAT THERE WITH HAWKS SUPPORTERS JUST LAUGHING AT US.

   FITNESS? Or just pathetic drop off in effort. Either is horrible

4. Umpires were a disgrace. Totally inconsistent. Newcomb throws the ball every time he’s tackles. Ridiculous. And that trip !!! Agree with you @Demonland umps were [censored] bias

47 minutes ago, Demonland said:

Free kick Hawthorn

14 minutes ago, praha said:

I said in round 1 when we had 6 debutants that we needed to temper expectations. This is a transition.

Today was rough but people need to be ready for a few more beltings, a few more strings of wins, a scalp or two, and overall an 7-9 win season. I've also said that 10 wins would be a huge win.

Keeping Pickett has to be an absolute priority for the club. As should be getting Jackson back.

We also need to go had for Worpul or however you spell his name. We missed out on Houston when we had him in the bag.

Why would Pickett stay now, unlikely Goodwin survives this year, we will be out of contention for a few year at minimum and if Gawn and may retire before then god help us. We are even less likely to keep him now than before this season started, the only plus is freo might at least have a good first round pick this year.

It's pretty clear that this game style is going to stand up, but we have to play it for 4 quarters and we need to take our chances in front of goal.

We should have won today and I thought thw scoreboard was extremely flattering to Hawthorn.

Hawthorn look very good when there's no pressure. As soon as they had frontal pressure their skill level was shown up too.

Langford is going to be an out and out star. Thank goodness he played. What a jet.

2 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

4 things

1. Forward line is a joke. Fritsch. Jeffo. JVR. Spargo. All were useless. I would like to see ALL of them dropped this week if we could (but Casey not much better after today’s effort)

2. goalkicking accuracy. A key skill. Scoring. Goalkicking was poor. Killed us AGAIN. Missed chance after chance and should have been up by 3-4 goals at 3/4 Time

3. LAST QUARTER WAS DISHEARTENING. WE SAT THERE WITH HAWKS SUPPORTERS JUST LAUGHING AT US.

   FITNESS? Or just pathetic drop off in effort. Either is horrible

4. Umpires were a disgrace. Totally inconsistent. Newcomb throws the ball every time he’s tackles. Ridiculous. And that trip !!! Agree with you @Demonland umps were [censored] bias

Thought Spargo was pretty good just didn’t kick straight.

12 minutes ago, RedLegs23 said:

You could’ve wrote the script for how that was going to end. Nice 3Qtrs but you knew the missed opportunities were going to come back to bite us in the [censored]. Everyone knew that & it played to script just perfectly.

List of liabilities are as follows:

JVR - there’s nothing that he can do at the moment that is right. Nothing!

Clarry - mentally it’s all over im afraid. No longer elite in close, nor damaging by hand like he once was. Always behind his direct opponent & is clearly unfit.

Fritsch - struts around in 1st gear without a care in the world. Work off the ball & team first approach is putrid.

Kozz was half invested today. That Freo game was a little while back now brother. Lacking consistency.

Langford & Lindsay - future is in good hands. Love em.

Honestly you two, what is it that you see in Jeffo @adonski @picket fence ??? Like seriously & respectfully.

I thought he looked nice with a mullet look in round 1

12 minutes ago, At the break of Gawn said:

The change in the training schedule that came from the review.

We train based on feel good now, we can’t have any hurt feelings

56 minutes ago, sue said:

In my distant youth an accidental trip was a free and a deliberate trip is a suspension. What is it now?

It's an FU Dees.

forward line

goal kicking

fitness

umpires

depth

Both teams supporters would be filthy about that game.

Tell us more about the "phases of the game" and the "cohesion" 🙏