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4 minutes ago, Demon Dynasty said:

Great summary SW.

You won't meet a better people manager and a great bloke to boot.

He'll chat with any supporter / member anytime anywhere and treat them like they're as important as any other person in the club.

Very humble guy but always looking for the edge over oppo and lookimg to get the best and expecting it from every player on the list.

And there's no way he'd be allowing the forward crud we've seen in the last 2.5 seasons to continue on unsolved imv and just keep crashing & bashing on in hope.

Big yes from me.

It’s a very fine line. But i think Goodwin has become too close to his players, i can understand why, he tells them to go out and put their lives on the line, but i think it has also clouded his judgement

I am looking from afar, but Respect of a Teacher, they are the ones i remember.

Simon will get another job, so i think it has reached that where it is probably mutually beneficial for both parties to part ways.

Bevo hasn’t lost his players so i wonder why he hasn’t been offered a new Contract.

Has he still got the Fire in the belly?

I think our list is still capable of winning Flags, but a lot of work is needed to get there.

We need an experienced Coach with a fresh voice and style

 
7 minutes ago, wheaters31 said:

29th July, 2013, Peter Jackson appeared on "On the Couch".

Interview is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bu0NIDU-aC0

Jackson was one of, if not the best appointment the club has had this century.

He stated on the program, that at times "the club's gone back to too many people who have got red and blue...I think sometimes we don't have a propensity in this club to bring in the best from outside".

He then spruiked the culture and winning environments at clubs like Sydney and Geelong.

After that interview he went on to appoint a number of people within the football department from those cultures. Paul Roos, George Stone, Ben Mathews, Brett Allison, Brendan McCartney, Matthew Egan and Shannon Byrnes. Industry best appointments.

My worry is that we are now moving away from appointing the best, and reverting to this propensity of former MFC people.

Brad Green - President

Nathan Jones - Midfield coach

Mark Jamar - Ruck coach

Alastair Nicholson - rumoured as next CEO

Steven Smith - rumoured as next President

Luke Beveridge - rumoured as possible next coach

These people may very well be the best options, and that it's just a coincidence that they have had a MFC involvement before,I don't know from afar. But I just hope we are not reverting back to what we were before Jackson. To be a high quality and successful club, you need the best people in the industry, and I hope we are going after them regardless of whether they have red and blue in them or not.

100% agree

We need the BEST People available at many levels

Aprils Fools has been and gone Caro.

 
7 minutes ago, wheaters31 said:

29th July, 2013, Peter Jackson appeared on "On the Couch".

Intehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bu0NIDU-aC0

Jackson was one of, if not the best appointment the club has had this century.

He stated on the program, that at times "the club's gone back to too many people who have got red and blue...I think sometimes we don't have a propensity in this club to bring in the best from outside".

He then spruiked the culture and winning environments at clubs like Sydney and Geelong.

After that interview he went on to appoint a number of people within the football department from those cultures. Paul Roos, George Stone, Ben Mathews, Brett Allison, Brendan McCartney, Matthew Egan and Shannon Byrnes. Industry best appointments.

My worry is that we are now moving away from appointing the best, and reverting to this propensity of former MFC people.

Brad Green - President

Nathan Jones - Midfield coach

Mark Jamar - Ruck coach

Alastair Nicholson - rumoured as next CEO

Steven Smith - rumoured as next President

Luke Beveridge - rumoured as possible next coach

These people may very well be the best options, and that it's just a coincidence that they have had a MFC involvement before,I don't know from afar. But I just hope we are not reverting back to what we were before Jackson. To be a high quality and successful club, you need the best people in the industry, and I hope we are going after them regardless of whether they have red and blue in them or not.

100% agree

ToP notch peeps only Please

I don’t care if they’re from Collingwood or outside afl

8 minutes ago, wheaters31 said:

29th July, 2013, Peter Jackson appeared on "On the Couch".

Interview is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bu0NIDU-aC0

Jackson was one of, if not the best appointment the club has had this century.

He stated on the program, that at times "the club's gone back to too many people who have got red and blue...I think sometimes we don't have a propensity in this club to bring in the best from outside".

He then spruiked the culture and winning environments at clubs like Sydney and Geelong.

After that interview he went on to appoint a number of people within the football department from those cultures. Paul Roos, George Stone, Ben Mathews, Brett Allison, Brendan McCartney, Matthew Egan and Shannon Byrnes. Industry best appointments.

My worry is that we are now moving away from appointing the best, and reverting to this propensity of former MFC people.

Brad Green - President

Nathan Jones - Midfield coach

Mark Jamar - Ruck coach

Alastair Nicholson - rumoured as next CEO

Steven Smith - rumoured as next President

Luke Beveridge - rumoured as possible next coach

These people may very well be the best options, and that it's just a coincidence that they have had a MFC involvement before,I don't know from afar. But I just hope we are not reverting back to what we were before Jackson. To be a high quality and successful club, you need the best people in the industry, and I hope we are going after them regardless of whether they have red and blue in them or not.

One of the better comments I’ve seen on Demonland.

The mind boggles why some supporters want to get someone to the club just because they have a Melbourne background. It’s so bloody stupid.

You go out and get the best, no matter what their background - it’s really not that hard of an idea to understand.

The last thing we need is an old Melbourne boys’ club running the place. We tried that for 50 years, didn’t work.


14 minutes ago, wheaters31 said:

29th July, 2013, Peter Jackson appeared on "On the Couch".

Interview is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bu0NIDU-aC0

Jackson was one of, if not the best appointment the club has had this century.

He stated on the program, that at times "the club's gone back to too many people who have got red and blue...I think sometimes we don't have a propensity in this club to bring in the best from outside".

He then spruiked the culture and winning environments at clubs like Sydney and Geelong.

After that interview he went on to appoint a number of people within the football department from those cultures. Paul Roos, George Stone, Ben Mathews, Brett Allison, Brendan McCartney, Matthew Egan and Shannon Byrnes. Industry best appointments.

My worry is that we are now moving away from appointing the best, and reverting to this propensity of former MFC people.

Brad Green - President

Nathan Jones - Midfield coach

Mark Jamar - Ruck coach

Alastair Nicholson - rumoured as next CEO

Steven Smith - rumoured as next President

Luke Beveridge - rumoured as possible next coach

These people may very well be the best options, and that it's just a coincidence that they have had a MFC involvement before,I don't know from afar. But I just hope we are not reverting back to what we were before Jackson. To be a high quality and successful club, you need the best people in the industry, and I hope we are going after them regardless of whether they have red and blue in them or not.

Not a fan of the inclusion of Presidents in that list. CEO, Coaching, admin roles - that is where you want the best of the best and develop in-house under those merited experts.

Board members, by definition almost, need to be supporters of the club and have the interests of the club above their professional aspirations in the game. The fact that he played games is immaterial to why Steven Smith is the next President.

So Jamar, Jones, etc - they make me nervous but not the Board.

And as an aside - Beveridge has done enough in the game to evolve past ‘former Dees player’ to predominate his CV…

18 minutes ago, wheaters31 said:

29th July, 2013, Peter Jackson appeared on "On the Couch".

Interview is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bu0NIDU-aC0

Jackson was one of, if not the best appointment the club has had this century.

He stated on the program, that at times "the club's gone back to too many people who have got red and blue...I think sometimes we don't have a propensity in this club to bring in the best from outside".

He then spruiked the culture and winning environments at clubs like Sydney and Geelong.

After that interview he went on to appoint a number of people within the football department from those cultures. Paul Roos, George Stone, Ben Mathews, Brett Allison, Brendan McCartney, Matthew Egan and Shannon Byrnes. Industry best appointments.

My worry is that we are now moving away from appointing the best, and reverting to this propensity of former MFC people.

Brad Green - President

Nathan Jones - Midfield coach

Mark Jamar - Ruck coach

Alastair Nicholson - rumoured as next CEO

Steven Smith - rumoured as next President

Luke Beveridge - rumoured as possible next coach

These people may very well be the best options, and that it's just a coincidence that they have had a MFC involvement before,I don't know from afar. But I just hope we are not reverting back to what we were before Jackson. To be a high quality and successful club, you need the best people in the industry, and I hope we are going after them regardless of whether they have red and blue in them or not.

Can't speak for everyone but Smith would bring a serious level of professionalism and business / legal kudos.

Great network of high level contacts as well. Hopefully get things moving on the Caulfield front.

That's if he has the desire and passion to commit. The time factor shouldn't be an issue given his consultancy commitments from what i understand.

16 minutes ago, Foopy on the telly said:

One of the better comments I’ve seen on Demonland.

The mind boggles why some supporters want to get someone to the club just because they have a Melbourne background. It’s so bloody stupid.

You go out and get the best, no matter what their background - it’s really not that hard of an idea to understand.

The last thing we need is an old Melbourne boys’ club running the place. We tried that for 50 years, didn’t work.

Steve Smith might well support Melbourne but his level of professionalism is exactly what the club needs, same can be said of Alistair Nicholson. The rest can go. Beveridge is an interesting candidate but he won’t be alone in the queue

 

At least with Luke Beveridge our press conferences would be far more entertaining! 🤣

He is definitely an intense character Luke Beveridge. However, would he want to coach the Melbourne Football Club? Would he be interested in a new challenge?

While, I am open to the possibility of Luke Beveridge being a potential candidate as our next coach, I think the TOP PRIORITY of who the Demons must target is John Longmire.

John Longmire is who we need!

While he only won the one flag for the Swans in 2012, he did get his team into Grand Finals 4 times in 2014, 2016, 2022 and 2024. John Longmire would bring respect and a winning culture to the Melbourne Football Club.

Let's just hope John Longmire isn't totally "cooked" and is open to the idea of a fresh start and a new challenge at the Demons.


25 minutes ago, Roost it far said:

Steve Smith might well support Melbourne but his level of professionalism is exactly what the club needs, same can be said of Alistair Nicholson. The rest can go. Beveridge is an interesting candidate but he won’t be alone in the queue

I guess there’s a bit of an exception when it comes to board members, because they don’t get paid. While their expertise should always come first, they (usually) should be supporters of their own club, as supporting anyone else just seems to scream conflict of interest.

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TYou all have short memories. Roos wanted a coach in waiting to hand over to. Stewart Dew did not want to leave his assistant position in Sydney and Bevo said no because he didn't want to be an assistant in waiting, he wanted to be in a senior coaching role and not understudy for a few years. I was hoping he would come to Melbourne and told him that at the time. He is his own man and and went to the Dogs and won them a flag. Don't forget he showed Stringer the door for his unacceptable behaviour at the dogs and showed early on he wouldn't tolerate bad behaviour.

I would personally prefer John Longmire, Adam Simpson or Ken Hinkley over Bevo. All three while not perfect consistently put out teams that can compete and contend, play attractive styles and have experienced big finals.

John Longmire would have been head hunted by multiple teams if he didn’t stand down imo

Bevo is just a more charismatic version of Goodwin. He's a people leader but he's not a strategist. Bevo, like Goodwin , heavily relies on the brains (assistants) behind the game plan. McRae is the same. Personally I think we should go with Longmire. Before last year's Grand final he was in clear 2nd place as the best coach around. He's made 5 grand finals and one of the best win/loss ratio in the modern game.

I'm genuinely baffled why some aren't considering him. I'd take 5 grand finals over a 13 year period any day.

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5 minutes ago, At the break of Gawn said:

Bevo is just a more charismatic version of Goodwin. He's a people leader but he's not a strategist. Bevo, like Goodwin , heavily relies on the brains (assistants) behind the game plan. McRae is the same. Personally I think we should go with Longmire. Before last year's Grand final he was in clear 2nd place as the best coach around. He's made 5 grand finals and one of the best win/loss ratio in the modern game.

I'm genuinely baffled why some aren't considering him. I'd take 5 grand finals over a 13 year period any day.

I've been in the John Longmire camp for a long time as well.

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3 hours ago, BDA said:

i'm not sold.

the doggies have never finished in the top 4 despite the list they've had including a rolls royce midfield

i would prefer a fresh up and comer

100 percent — and there’s plenty out there. I’d be looking at someone like Justin Lepptitsch or even Cam Bruce. Both are super highly rated.

7 hours ago, LePig said:

100 percent — and there’s plenty out there. I’d be looking at someone like Justin Lepptitsch or even Cam Bruce. Both are super highly rated.

Does Justin Leppitisch want to be a senior coach again, I thought he didn't?

Looks who has been successful recently

Untried assistants in Mitchell Kingsley Macrae

Let’s go this route please

12 hours ago, BDA said:

i'm not sold.

the doggies have never finished in the top 4 despite the list they've had including a rolls royce midfield

i would prefer a fresh up and comer

Absolutely. The game is changing and needs fresh ideas. Bevo is notorious for being stubborn and playing favorites. Look at the absolute talent that has actively sought to leave that club over the last few years!

IF we were going to look for a new coach, I would want someone young who has credentials, new ideas and has tasted victory at the highest level (ie. knows how to win). That Richmond coach looks suitable...


Personally, I’d rather we find someone who has played the game in relatively recent times., and is across the modern game (yes, I know SG fits that description, but he ain’t working). Search for another Mitchell… it may take time (so start NOW), and there’s a certain element of risk involved, but I’m tired of Melbourne always taking the safe road.

30 minutes ago, Roost it far said:

Does Justin Leppitisch want to be a senior coach again, I thought he didn't?

i'm not sure recycling former head coach's is the way to go. Voss has flamed out at Carlton and i can't remember too many recent examples that have failed in the role originally but succeeded a second time.

I reckon Leppistch is a great assistant but not what we should be looking for in the head role.

I would argue the Bulldogs have similar cultural issues to us amongst the playing group at least. JUH, Bailey Smith, Lachie Hunter and Libba (when younger) being the more obvious ones. I recall Dunkley getting out as he didn't like the professionalism/standards at the club. I wouldn't want more of the same in that regard although the bulldogs are probably a bit ahead of us in cleaning up their act. For me, this and their incredible inconsistency is enough to put me off Beveridge for coach. I'm a huge fan of Longmire if we went down that path.

 
11 hours ago, wheaters31 said:

29th July, 2013, Peter Jackson appeared on "On the Couch".

Interview is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bu0NIDU-aC0

Jackson was one of, if not the best appointment the club has had this century.

He stated on the program, that at times "the club's gone back to too many people who have got red and blue...I think sometimes we don't have a propensity in this club to bring in the best from outside".

He then spruiked the culture and winning environments at clubs like Sydney and Geelong.

After that interview he went on to appoint a number of people within the football department from those cultures. Paul Roos, George Stone, Ben Mathews, Brett Allison, Brendan McCartney, Matthew Egan and Shannon Byrnes. Industry best appointments.

My worry is that we are now moving away from appointing the best, and reverting to this propensity of former MFC people.

Brad Green - President

Nathan Jones - Midfield coach

Mark Jamar - Ruck coach

Alastair Nicholson - rumoured as next CEO

Steven Smith - rumoured as next President

Luke Beveridge - rumoured as possible next coach

These people may very well be the best options, and that it's just a coincidence that they have had a MFC involvement before,I don't know from afar. But I just hope we are not reverting back to what we were before Jackson. To be a high quality and successful club, you need the best people in the industry, and I hope we are going after them regardless of whether they have red and blue in them or not.

I don't have a problem with any of those appointments noting:

  1. Nathan Jones seemed a bit of an odd appointment as one of our line coaches given he has been in the media for the past 3 years since retiring and hasn't been coaching. I think his appointment in part is spiritual to help heal the playing group and so makes sense.

  2. Alastair Nicholson seems an odd candidate as his past roles, e.g. CEO of AFLCA put him as more of an Administrator than someone who will establish our home base, align the admin and footy departments to drive success, and grow our membership.

1 hour ago, Roost it far said:

Does Justin Leppitisch want to be a senior coach again, I thought he didn't?

Leppa would be a really good target to replace richo as gm


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