And the search for a decent KPF goes on....

• 32 years since the debut of Neitz

• 7 years since trading out Hogan

• 2 days since the demise of JVR

Potential option for the future, Archie Ludowyke. Kicked 3 goals against Richmond VFL on the weekend in a rep game from limited opportunity.

As mentioned by @Chelly5 months ago, most likely a top 10 draft pick this year. How are we going to secure a top 10 draft pick for this kid?

He’s a good youngster with footy smarts. Definitely be top 15-20 pick. But unless we trade in, our first pick is likely to be around 25-30.

3 minutes ago, dice said:

And the search for a decent KPF goes on....

• 32 years since the debut of Neitz

• 7 years since trading out Hogan

• 2 days since the demise of JVR

Potential option for the future, Archie Ludowyke. Kicked 3 goals against Richmond VFL on the weekend in a rep game from limited opportunity.

As mentioned by @Chelly5 months ago, most likely a top 10 draft pick this year. How are we going to secure a top 10 draft pick for this kid?

I think that is pretty obvious. It will come from one or more of Trac/Clarry/Kozzy. KPF from the draft are so hard to get right though.

Its hard to snare them from clubs unless they enter into FA at a club not doing well. And then you are competing with the rest of the competition.

Edited April 14, 2025Apr 14 by GS_1905

Sounds good. Let's get the lad in and run him around at Casey for 4 years

Tempting, but I dunno.

I'd much rather continue stockpiling 177cm small forwards who have less than 10 touches a game and don't kick goals every week.

Cody Curtin, Liam Hetherton and Louis Emmett are other key forwards to keep an eye on if we go down that path.

We will have at least 2 first rounders in the 25 draft. Access to young talent won’t be our problem.

20 minutes ago, JJJ said:

We will have at least 2 first rounders in the 25 draft. Access to young talent won’t be our problem.

Pickett + another?

19 minutes ago, Random Task said:

Pickett + another?

Yep. At this stage anyway.

1 hour ago, spirit of norm smith said:

He’s a good youngster with footy smarts. Definitely be top 15-20 pick. But unless we trade in, our first pick is likely to be around 25-30.

Talk about pressure on XL to perform..

8 minutes ago, JJJ said:

Yep. At this stage anyway.

Everytime someone says we traded our first pick I respond like you - we will have multiple FRP

3 hours ago, dice said:

And the search for a decent KPF goes on....

• 32 years since the debut of Neitz

• 7 years since trading out Hogan

• 2 days since the demise of JVR

Harsh

24 minutes ago, Ghostwriter said:

Harsh

To be fair, our club has collectively sabotaged JVR’s development. I think he is innocent in this case.

37 minutes ago, Ghostwriter said:

Harsh

5 games into his third season and he has effectively taken only 1 contested mark so far this season. That is a massive concern for a KPF.

Sure the delivery to him has been poor overall but there have been enough entries inside 50 (249 in total) to work with.

He needs to go back to Casey and work on his marking and regain his confidence

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26 minutes ago, dice said:

5 games into his third season and he has effectively taken only 1 contested mark so far this season. That is a massive concern for a KPF.

Sure the delivery to him has been poor overall but there have been enough entries inside 50 (249 in total) to work with.

He needs to go back to Casey and work on his marking and regain his confidence

I’d be sending the midfield and Nathan Jones back first.

Two years ago we had two many key talls, now it seems everyone wants to fill the list with more. I’d be looking at a ruck and a key defender (although white is likely to fill one of these roles) given our list profile. May and Gawn will leave gaping holes if they decline as they well should at their ages. Replacing them should be higher priority than bemoaning first rounders who haven’t come on and filling the list with more. A coach who teaches forward craft to these kids would serve us far better. JVR and Jefferson are not spent. Personally I’ll be satisfied if we don’t mortgage our future any further. Pick up white and sinnema and hopefully snag a late ruck prospect, Jason Taylor has had far less opportunities to influence the back end of the draft in recent years.

5 hours ago, dice said:

5 games into his third season and he has effectively taken only 1 contested mark so far this season. That is a massive concern for a KPF.

Sure the delivery to him has been poor overall but there have been enough entries inside 50 (249 in total) to work with.

He needs to go back to Casey and work on his marking and regain his confidence

I think the bigger concern is how we've f... his development.

A kid who probably should have been back at Casey to get some confidence is expected to carry a dysfunctional forward line as the only KPF on the weekend.

That's just not right.

21 hours ago, dice said:

And the search for a decent KPF goes on....

• 32 years since the debut of Neitz

• 7 years since trading out Hogan

• 2 days since the demise of JVR

Potential option for the future, Archie Ludowyke. Kicked 3 goals against Richmond VFL on the weekend in a rep game from limited opportunity.

As mentioned by @Chelly5 months ago, most likely a top 10 draft pick this year. How are we going to secure a top 10 draft pick for this kid?

When you look at the lists of other clubs, they have 6 or7 players 200cm or more, and the better clubs have 4 or more in the actual first team. Most take years to develop and our only 2 (Gawn and Campbell) will probably not play beyond 2 years. Fullarton and Verall are close to 200 but neither show much sign of making it at the moment. It will probably take 4 years to get the 6 or 7 200cm players, so the damage on recruiting smalls is already done. We used to say we had a lot of talls but they were all only 195cm or thereabouts apart from a couple of ex basketballers that didn't work out as Category B rookies.

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I don't want him to leave but the player with the most draft currency is Kozzie.

The club shouldn't entertain nothing less than a top 10 pick and another pick inside the first or early 2nd rounder inside pick 25.

If that can't be achieved a player of our choice i.e Luke Jackson.

Clubs will not give us quality draft picks for Claz and Trac if they are taking on their salary.

Edited April 15, 2025Apr 15 by YesitwasaWin4theAges

On 14/04/2025 at 14:00, Demon Jack said:

Tempting, but I dunno.

I'd much rather continue stockpiling 177cm small forwards who have less than 10 touches a game and don't kick goals every week.

Or how about a 4th backup ruckman for Gawn, just in case Max can no longer jump or run...

Mentioned in the sun we have interest in him:-

KEY FORWARD NOT FORGOTTEN

A knee injury meant Sandringham Dragons key forward Archie Ludowyke played limited football this year, but he remains in the frame as a top-15 pick.

Ludowyke is understood to have been included on an initial invite list to attend the first night of the draft on November 19, indicating strong interest from clubs with top-12 selections.

Rival clubs have linked Ludowyke to Melbourne (picks seven and eight), while there is also late mail around Greater Western Sydney (pick 12) being very keen on the athletic forward who flies for his marks and has high footy IQ.

Always feels like it's us or GWS or am I imagining things.

40 minutes ago, Petracca said:

Mentioned in the sun we have interest in him:-

KEY FORWARD NOT FORGOTTEN

A knee injury meant Sandringham Dragons key forward Archie Ludowyke played limited football this year, but he remains in the frame as a top-15 pick.

Ludowyke is understood to have been included on an initial invite list to attend the first night of the draft on November 19, indicating strong interest from clubs with top-12 selections.

Rival clubs have linked Ludowyke to Melbourne (picks seven and eight), while there is also late mail around Greater Western Sydney (pick 12) being very keen on the athletic forward who flies for his marks and has high footy IQ.

Interesting that we are now starting to be linked to a couple of players a bit further back in the pool. I wonder will we split 8.

Also although Schubert links seemed mainly from random phantom drafts this link to a big key forward if from other clubs. Wonder if King want a big Gorilla as part of his set up.

Love the name but I've sworn off drafting high pick key forwards for life

If they believe he's a contest mark beast then go for it.

Otherwise we keep going for another pure midfielder and a small forward type both with elite kicking skills.

Edited October 31, 2025Oct 31 by YesitwasaWin4theAges