Jump to content

Welcome to Demonland: Pick 9



Recommended Posts

1 hour ago, demoncat said:

Woof - glad we’re getting pick 9 but gee we’re paying a premium for it 

Not sure where we’re going to get the picks from to get Harry Sharp out of Brisbane? They need picks in this years draft and I’m not sure what we have left over after this?

Edit: I see we’ll have 49 left which I’m guessing would be part of an in principle agreement for him 

In short we have to make the finals next year to make this trade work.

I dont mind the risk/reward aspect as it makes the whole Club accountable and cannot afford another poor season.

Edited by Jibroni
  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

2 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

I guess we had to do 28 and the future first for 9, that’s the minimum price for a quality pick.

46 gets cancelled out by the future 3rd.

65 is junk.

Did we have to put both 40 and 54 in, I guess the deal says yes and Essendon needed points picks for Kako to do the deal to begin with.

I hope we find a way to get a 3rd rounder, if not for Derk then at least for JT to have a crack at a slider.

Hopefully Tomlinson finds a new home and we can keep whatever pick we net for him handy for a slider  

  • Like 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

You need to break a few eggs to make an omlette. When we overpay we usually know have a very specific target. 

We also 'overpayed' for Kolt last year, but it doesn't seem to have impacted our plans this year. 

This means we pull x2 top 10 picks, Sharp and a rookie like Mentha. Sounds like a great haul to me.

Edited by MrFreeze
Link to comment
Share on other sites

3 minutes ago, demoncat said:

Hopefully Tomlinson finds a new home and we can keep whatever pick we net for him handy for a slider  

The pies future 4th is the ultimate slider! 

I suspect Collingwood just wait until we delist him

  • Like 3
Link to comment
Share on other sites

13 hours ago, kurtneverdied said:

Best available for the 2. Hopefully mids. We are so overrated in the mids now on past efforts. Question marks over our best 2 plus Gus going. It's stale as twisties left out overnight.

Let's not get picky either. We overlooked Wines because he was the same type as Viney, yes no one complained that Toumpas slipped, but I'm disappointed our recruiters didn't see even a risk Toumpas was no good, or the upside in Wines was greater.

Why wreck my morning talking about Toumpas?? He was a poor mans Diamond Jim Tillbrook

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

I wouldn't be worrying about the late picks at all, it's just that Essendon are desperate for points this year, and that's what's making them do the deal. Without the late pick swaps we might have only got pick 13 from Gold Coast with our future first and 28. In terms of how valuable the late picks are consider that Richmond was willing to give up picks 32, 42, 43, and 45 for pick 20.

  • Like 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

I am guessing we are leaving room for potential delisted free agents?

Having the 2 draft picks and Harry Sharp surely doesn't put our list spots at full capacity?

  • Like 6
Link to comment
Share on other sites

6 minutes ago, MrFreeze said:

You need to break a few eggs to make an omlette. When we overpay we usually know have a very specific target. 

We also 'overpayed' for Kolt last year, but it doesn't seem to have impacted our plans this year. 

This means we pull x2 top 10 picks, Sharp and a rookie like Mentha. Sounds like a great haul to me.

Sharp is young, we add 2 high quality players plus Sharp.  We have potential FS and NGA next year that you would think be around that mid second round to third rounders at the moment. So we have the picks to cover these.

  • Love 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites


2 minutes ago, MrFreeze said:

You need to break a few eggs to make an omlette. When we overpay we usually know have a very specific target. 

We also 'overpayed' for Kolt last year, but it doesn't seem to have impacted our plans this year. 

This means we pull x2 top 10 picks, Sharp and a rookie like Mentha. Sounds like a great haul to me.

It does impact our depth tho, which I personally think leads to bad culture and standards as you keep guys you don’t rate who just collect cheques at Casey and puts pressure on the coaches to play the same side rather than have real competition for spots.

When we did the Pickett deal we folded it back from 8 to 12 and grabbed Rivers with the second rounder.

Won’t be until the draft but Id be very open to doing the same here given how even the second tier of prospects looks in this draft. There’s a couple of specific guys I think we might target with pick 9 who are more of a needs/unique skill set selection who could be there at 12. There’s your second rounder back. 

Also - do what you got to do - knee cap someone, bribe someone, call in the Peaky freaking blinders to get this Irish kid. That’s your 3rd rounder.

  • Like 2
  • Clap 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Can't get excited or disappointed with this trade. Was hoping we'd go deep into the draft this year. Pick 9 for our F1 and 28 seemed about right. Bundling up the later picks and sending them to Brisbane for pick 32/34 and Sharp, would have given us a nice draft hand.

 

  • Like 2
  • Clap 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 minute ago, mo64 said:

Can't get excited or disappointed with this trade. Was hoping we'd go deep into the draft this year. Pick 9 for our F1 and 28 seemed about right. Bundling up the later picks and sending them to Brisbane for pick 32/34 and Sharp, would have given us a nice draft hand.

 

Yes would have looked better. We must have a specific target to pay that heavy price.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

7 minutes ago, picket fence said:

Why wreck my morning talking about Toumpas?? He was a poor mans Diamond Jim Tillbrook

Diamond Jim was tracking upwards in his last season until he got injured. Diamonds are forever.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

“Essendon trading pick 9 and a future third-round pick” for “Melbourne's future first-round pick and picks 28, 40, 46, 54 and 65”. 
 

Certainly overpaying in my view but Dees are super keen to get that pick 9.  Probably falls to pick 11 as Ashcroft and Lombard should and must get bid in within the first 5 picks.  
 

Did we need to give so much …again ??? The trade offers Bombers over 1800 in points plus the future 1st 2025.  Dees get current pick 9 plus future 3rd.  Bombers will eat this up.  
Imv Dees needed to keep 28 or 40 off this trade.  Imv the max offering future MFC first-round pick and picks 28, 46, 54 and 65 works as a deal and ultimately the offer.  The points from Dees should be strong and keep that pick 40 & 48.  Yes 48 to grab Sharp from the Lions.  Go to the draft with 5, 9, 40 plus a late slider pick (need to grab 4 youngsters MINIMUM in this draft). 

  • Like 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

3 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

I am guessing we are leaving room for potential delisted free agents?

Having the 2 draft picks and Harry Sharp surely doesn't put our list spots at full capacity?

6 confirmed outs (Gus, ANB, Hunter, Schache, BBB, KFW) with 2 more surely a matter of time.

2 confirmed in (Kentfield, Campbell). Plus Sharp on the way.

So 3/8 filled.

2 potential Cat B rookies (Mentha, Irish) that might push AMW on to a main list or just consume an extra rookie spot? Could be 4/8 if that goes our way.

I’d like to get to 3 national draft picks and then have an open try out for the final list spot all through summer. Bring in some hungry state league players.

  • Like 5
Link to comment
Share on other sites

19 minutes ago, Jibroni said:

In short we have to make the finals next year to make this trade work.

I dont mind the risk/reward aspect as it makes the whole Club accountable and cannot afford another poor season.

I think this is too black and white. 

If we get Tauru or a gun mid or Armstrong, who then turn out to be great players, then it really doesn't matter where we finish next year. (If we finish bottom 4 it will look bad)

Picks after 40 are not particularly valuable -  some clubs are passing on rounds at this point. 

 

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

2 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

6 confirmed outs (Gus, ANB, Hunter, Schache, BBB, KFW) with 2 more surely a matter of time.

2 confirmed in (Kentfield, Campbell). Plus Sharp on the way.

So 3/8 filled.

2 potential Cat B rookies (Mentha, Irish) that might push AMW on to a main list or just consume an extra rookie spot? Could be 4/8 if that goes our way.

I’d like to get to 3 national draft picks and then have an open try out for the final list spot all through summer. Bring in some hungry state league players.

Also adding Joel Smith and Adam Tomlinson as outs.

So I'm guessing we'll have room to fit Riak Andrew? I worry that if he gets a bid in the national draft, we have nothing to match the bid.

There are reports that clubs do like him in the back half of the draft.

Edited by dazzledavey36
Link to comment
Share on other sites

16 hours ago, Demon Jack said:

I'm hoping we pick up Alix Tauru with pick 9 should we take it into the draft. Tall, aggressive and can play anywhere. I'd happily take him over Armstrong who is rated higher in a couple of phantom drafts.

 

Great suggestion. These highlight packages can be misleading butI like what I see with Alix. 

Great hands, launches hard then seems to float through the air, and plays both ends of the ground. Lots of potential.

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

3 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

“Essendon trading pick 9 and a future third-round pick” for “Melbourne's future first-round pick and picks 28, 40, 46, 54 and 65”. 
 

Certainly overpaying in my view but Dees are super keen to get that pick 9.  Probably falls to pick 11 as Ashcroft and Lombard should and must get bid in within the first 5 picks.  
 

Did we need to give so much …again ??? The trade offers Bombers over 1800 in points plus the future 1st 2025.  Dees get current pick 9 plus future 3rd.  Bombers will eat this up.  
Imv Dees needed to keep 28 or 40 off this trade.  Imv the max offering future MFC first-round pick and picks 28, 46, 54 and 65 works as a deal and ultimately the offer.  The points from Dees should be strong and keep that pick 40 & 48.  Yes 48 to grab Sharp from the Lions.  Go to the draft with 5, 9, 40 plus a late slider pick (need to grab 4 youngsters MINIMUM in this draft). 

Don’t get caught up in the points, it’s so irrelevant.  Pick 9 is gold

  • Like 13
  • Thanks 1
  • Clap 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites


Can anyone enlighten me?

We are about 5 players short on our senior list according to the spreadsheet on the website.   If we only finish up with 6,9 and forty something, how do we get the extra players.   Our rookie list is full except for a Category B which will probably go to an academy player.  1 pick mid-season still leaves us short.  Do they just put someone from the rookie list on the senior list and then draft another rookie?   Seems a waste of a spot, but I guess they might have an eye on some left field rookie.  They did it with Sestan.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Oh no, what would we do without pick 40?  😐

Our recent drafting history with picks in the National Draft at 40 and above:

2023: None. 2022: None. 2021: Taj Woewodin (FS match). 2020: None. 2019: None. 

One would almost think that we have a drafting philosophy of doing whatever we can to get further up the list where the good players are, rather than picking later where the ordinary players are. I'm not going to cry over giving up additional late picks to get a top 10 picks.

  • Like 12
  • Thanks 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

2 minutes ago, Demons11 said:

Don’t get caught up in the points, it’s so irrelevant.  Pick 9 is gold

Agree not so much the points , it’s the extra dip of 28 and 40.  Getting 9 this year and giving back future 1st plus 1800 points.  Sweet deal for Dons.  This draft offers excellent youngsters in the 2nd round as well.   I do really like getting 9, so wait and see … 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

2 minutes ago, stinga said:

Can anyone enlighten me?

We are about 5 players short on our senior list according to the spreadsheet on the website.   If we only finish up with 6,9 and forty something, how do we get the extra players.   Our rookie list is full except for a Category B which will probably go to an academy player.  1 pick mid-season still leaves us short.  Do they just put someone from the rookie list on the senior list and then draft another rookie?   Seems a waste of a spot, but I guess they might have an eye on some left field rookie.  They did it with Sestan.

Sharp from Brisbane, maybe give a future 3rd or 4th. 

AMW deserves senior spot

3 draftees

+ Rookies/State league options

Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 minute ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Agree not so much the points , it’s the extra dip of 28 and 40.  Getting 9 this year and giving back future 1st plus 1800 points.  Sweet deal for Dons.  This draft offers excellent youngsters in the 2nd round as well.   I do really like getting 9, so wait and see … 

28 will slide into the 30's 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

15 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

It does impact our depth tho, which I personally think leads to bad culture and standards as you keep guys you don’t rate who just collect cheques at Casey and puts pressure on the coaches to play the same side rather than have real competition for spots.

Underrated problem, I reckon. I think Melbourne has fallen into this trap way too often in the past couple of years - but well before that also. I don't think it's any coincidence that the Flag came when Casey was flush with players who could honestly consider themselves very unlucky not to be getting a game. 

  • Like 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Unfortunately, your content contains terms that we do not allow. Please edit your content to remove the highlighted words below.
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
  • Demonland Forums  

  • Match Previews, Reports & Articles  

    BLOODY BLUES by Meggs

    The conclusion to Narrm’s home and away season was the inevitable let down by the bloody Blues  who meekly capitulated to the Bombers.   The 2024 season fixture handicapped the Demons chances from the get-go with Port Adelaide, Brisbane and Essendon advantaged with enough gimme games to ensure a tough road to the finals, especially after a slew of early season injuries to star players cost wins and percentage.     As we strode confidently through the gates of Prin

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 3

    2024 Player Reviews: #5 Christian Petracca

    Melbourne’s most important player who dominated the first half of the season until his untimely injury in the Kings Birthday clash put an end to his season. At the time, he was on his way to many personal honours and the club in strong finals contention. When the season did end for Melbourne and Petracca was slowly recovering, he was engulfed in controversy about a possible move of clubs amid claims about his treatment by the club in the immediate aftermath of his injury. Date of Birth: 4 J

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 21

    2024 Player Reviews: #2 Jacob van Rooyen

    Strong marking youngster who plays forward and relief ruck, continued to make significant strides forward in his career path. The Demons have high hopes for van Rooyen as he stakes his claim to become an elite attacking forward. Date of Birth: 16 April 2003 Height: 193cm Games MFC 2024: 21 Career Total: 41 Goals MFC 2024: 30 Career Total: 58 Brownlow Medal Votes: 1

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 26

    LIVE AND LET DIE by Meggs

    The Demons’ impressive late season charge to finals will most likely come unstuck this Saturday evening when the Bombers blow up the also-ran Blues in the Ikon Park double-header.   To mangle McCartney, what does it matter to ya? To have any chance to play next week Narrm has got a job to do and needs to do it well.  We’ve got to give the Pie sheilas hell, say live and let die! It’s Indigenous Round for this game and the chance to celebrate and engage with Aboriginal and Torres

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    AFLW Melbourne Demons

    2024 Player Reviews: #32 Tom Sparrow

    Had to shoulder more responsibility as the club’s injury concerns deepened but needs to step up more as he closes in on 100 games. Date of Birth: 31 May 2000 Height: 186cm Games MFC 2024: 21 Career Total: 95 Goals MFC 2024: 6 Career Total: 34 Games CDFC: 1 Goals CDFL: 0

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 24

    2024 Player Reviews: #35 Harry Petty

    Date of Birth: 12 November 1999 Height: 197cm Games MFC 2024: 20 Career Total: 82 Goals MFC 2024: 9 Career Total: 28 Brownlow Medal Votes 3 Failed to fulfill the promise of his breakout six goal effort against the Tigers in 2023 and was generally disappointing as a key forward. It remains to be seen whether Simon Goodwin will persevere with him in attack or return him to the backline where he was an important cog in the club’s 2021 premiership success.

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 18

    2024 Player Reviews: #22 Blake Howes

    After a bright start to the season, playing mostly in defence, Howes seemed to lose his way in midseason but fought back with some good performances at Casey and finished the year back at AFL level. One to watch in 2024. Date of Birth: 7 March 2003 Height: 191cm Games MFC 2024: 15 Career Total:  15 Goals MFC 2024: 0 Career Total:  0 Games CDFC 2024: 6 Goals CDFC 2024: 0

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 5

    2024 Player Reviews: #33 Tom Fullarton

    Originally an NBL basketballer with the Brisbane Bullets, he moved across town in 2019 to the AFL Lions where he played 19 games before crossing to Melbourne where he was expected to fill a role as a back up ruckman/key forward. Unfortunately, didn’t quite get there although he did finish equal sixth in Casey’s best and fairest award. Date of Birth: 23 February 1999 Height: 198cm Games CDFC: 14 Goals CDFL: 13

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 8

    2024 Player Reviews: #10 Angus Brayshaw

    Sadly, had to wrap up a great career in midstream on the back of multiple concussions which culminated in the Maynard hit in the 2023 Qualifying Final. His loss to the club was inestimable over and above his on field talent given his character and leadership qualities, all of which have been sorely missed. Date of Birth: 9 January 1996 Height: 188cm Games MFC 2024: 0 Career Total: 167 Goals MFC 2024: 0 Career Total: 49

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 8
  • Tell a friend

    Love Demonland? Tell a friend!

×
×
  • Create New...