17 hours ago, mmwd6 said:

Some of you are in deep denial. That interview is like the worst possible version of “contracted player wants trade but can’t openly say it.” 
 

him saying he’s contracted doesn’t mean he’s not trying again this year, it literally just means it’s the only thing he can actually say in this situation. Other players have played it much better. Talk about how excited they sure to build and grow with the club/have success etc. 

 

Unfortunately, we may have to sell our stocks while at a premium and our returns won't be compromised by the introduction of the tassie team. Jt and co will be all over it know doubt.

Apologies if posted already.

https://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/melbourne-forward-jacob-van-rooyen-plea-to-see-kysaiah-pickett-for-many-more-years/news-story/b8855d5721c6a3d57efe7f07fa31cd7a?amp=

 

Edited February 14Feb 14 by layzie

Freo are hell bent on getting Kozzie, that is an understatement (Kozzie also seems hell bent on getting there). He’ll get there as thats the football landscape nowadays.

However, if Freo think they can lowball us on a trade they are seriously mistaken, given the length of Kozzies contract. We hold the cards and will get adequate compensation for him, whenever that will be.

Just my opinion- I think we need to be resigned to the fact that Kozzie will be at Freo next year and the introduction of the 2 year future draft pick will get a trade over the line, in my opinion. It won’t be overs but we’ll have some first round capital to play with prior to Tassie.

The Neal-Bullen trade sets a precedent to the contracted cohort of the playing list that we’ll get you home under humane reasons.

We’ll be far the worse side without him as he provides such a point of difference.

38 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Just my opinion- I think we need to be resigned to the fact that Kozzie will be at Freo next year and the introduction of the 2 year future draft pick will get a trade over the line, in my opinion. It won’t be overs but we’ll have some first round capital to play with prior to Tassie.

The Neal-Bullen trade sets a precedent to the contracted cohort of the playing list that we’ll get you home under humane reasons.

We’ll be far the worse side without him as he provides such a point of difference.

ah, the mfcss is strong in you...

he stays, he stays; he goes, he goes - we won't be unrewarded if he does choose to go, and flagmantle continue to pay a fortune to put together a side that...has made finals once in longmuir's five completed seasons in charge

there's no point worrying about something that MIGHT happen when there's a full season to come

41 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Just my opinion- I think we need to be resigned to the fact that Kozzie will be at Freo next year and the introduction of the 2 year future draft pick will get a trade over the line, in my opinion. It won’t be overs but we’ll have some first round capital to play with prior to Tassie.

The Neal-Bullen trade sets a precedent to the contracted cohort of the playing list that we’ll get you home under humane reasons.

We’ll be far the worse side without him as he provides such a point of difference.

ANB is closer to the end than the start, Kozzie still has his best years ahead of him. If he goes he goes but I'll be ropeable if we don't get value for him.

16 hours ago, Dannyz said:

I think this looks different. 
Tracc and Oliver, allegedly, wanted to move because they were unhappy with the culture but are both from Victoria. Kozzy wants to move for cultural reasons which we may not agree but are real for him. 
The bottom line is we do have this year to convince him that Melbourne is where he should play his footy but from what I do know (and on the topic I’ll confess that is a lot and probably more than I should be posting in the open forums) he wants this move for reasons it would be hard to humanely not make possible. 

The club keeping him for this year is a serious credit to how much he loved and respect Goodwin 

Any other player would’ve forced a move in the circumstances 

the question is what can Freo give, but knowing Melbourne were very easy to deal with in situations like this 

We could probably condense this thread;

Kossie wants to go

Kossie isn’t going anywhere

There is a story that he he is homesick

He cant go - we’ll hold him to his contract, we hold the power

Future trading changes might help Freo satisfy us in a trade 

Doesnt matter Kossie isn’t going anywhere

and repeat

9 minutes ago, Deez21 said:

The club keeping him for this year is a serious credit to how much he loved and respect Goodwin 

Any other player would’ve forced a move in the circumstances 

the question is what can Freo give, but knowing Melbourne were very easy to deal with in situations like this 

Players don’t normally Force moves they ask !

And Kossie  is only in his second year of a 4 year contract. Melb does not have to jump at Kossies request like they refused Harry Petty and he resigned a year later. 

I am not sure of your Goodwin/ Kossie relationship  being any tighter than many others to say that he only stayed because of that.

Unless of course you have insider knowledge to this fact. 

It will play out over this season but to be honest I am sick of it already and wish it was a closed  matter till after the end of The season and trade time,

He’s homesick for Darwin so wants to sign for Freo. That makes zero sense to me. What am I missing?

39 minutes ago, BDA said:

He’s homesick for Darwin so wants to sign for Freo. That makes zero sense to me. What am I missing?

and two years ago kornes was saying he was homesick for the pear

i think the medja just goes "indigenous player? must want to be in sa...no wait...wa! hang on, maybe it's the nt?"

Edited February 15Feb 15 by whatwhat say what

It's pretty disrespectful to both MFC and teammates to go on a liking spree of a rivals supporter page.
It's a bizzare way to go about moving clubs. Nobody forced him to sign a 4 year deal. 
I haven't seen this kind of entitled , obnoxious, and ungrateful behaviour since.... October last year.

But seriously, Why does this sort of stuff rarely happen at some clubs, but has been a yearly occurrence at the MFC of recent ?

Pretty damning interview. 

I applaud his honesty tbh. But it’s abundantly clear that he wants out. 

I suppose we have 6 months to convince him to change his mind.

1 hour ago, 58er said:

 

I am not sure of your Goodwin/ Kossie relationship  being any tighter than many others to say that he only stayed because of that.

Deez21 never said the bond between Goody and Kozzie is the only reason Kozzie is staying. But you’d better believe…it’s a massive part of his reason to stay. The strength and value of their relationship shouldn’t be underestimated. It’s so cliché I know but Goody is like a Dad to Koz.

 

On another point (not in answer to you 58er, just in general), I wouldn’t read too much into Kozzie’s answer in that interview (I have to do my time). He’s an introvert and always will be therefore his uncomfortableness with this sort attention (public interview) will always be manifested in awkward responses.

 

edit: His response “I’m contracted to Melbourne” is clearly a manager-driven reply IMHO. Similar to Vines when asked in a post-match interview about staying at Melbourne (not considering a move to North) where he knee-jerked “Yes” quickly followed by “we’ll see how it goes” as if his manager’s advice on what to say came to his mind a second too late. 😁

Edited February 15Feb 15 by Ghostwriter

3 hours ago, layzie said:

Apologies if posted already.

https://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/melbourne-forward-jacob-van-rooyen-plea-to-see-kysaiah-pickett-for-many-more-years/news-story/b8855d5721c6a3d57efe7f07fa31cd7a?amp=

 

“Yeah, we all love him and he’s contracted – I am keen to play with him this year and hopefully many more.”

Oh no, it appears that ALL of our WA boys are planning a move back home 😱

32 minutes ago, Jack Vineys Anger Manager said:

It's pretty disrespectful to both MFC and teammates to go on a liking spree of a rivals supporter page.
It's a bizzare way to go about moving clubs. Nobody forced him to sign a 4 year deal. 
I haven't seen this kind of entitled , obnoxious, and ungrateful behaviour since.... October last year.

But seriously, Why does this sort of stuff rarely happen at some clubs, but has been a yearly occurrence at the MFC of recent ?

One of the brother boys told me Kozzie is just stirring the pot. If that’s true, awesome. But someone needs to school Koz on what’s funny and what’s not. 

I said the other day that someone in the media should call him out on his posts and they did just that. For someone that doesn't like attention he has a funny way of trying to avoid it. 

I’m holding stock, I ain’t selling till it’s at its peak and that’s not next year.

 

1 hour ago, Jack Vineys Anger Manager said:

It's pretty disrespectful to both MFC and teammates to go on a liking spree of a rivals supporter page.
It's a bizzare way to go about moving clubs. Nobody forced him to sign a 4 year deal. 
I haven't seen this kind of entitled , obnoxious, and ungrateful behaviour since.... October last year.

But seriously, Why does this sort of stuff rarely happen at some clubs, but has been a yearly occurrence at the MFC of recent ?

Don't forget RDB bolted in the middle of the night and we got nothing except 57 years of grief. At least in modern times there is the fig leaf of compensation...

2 hours ago, Ghostwriter said:

One of the brother boys told me Kozzie is just stirring the pot. If that’s true, awesome. But someone needs to school Koz on what’s funny and what’s not. 

Great post GW, I started to breathe again.

5 hours ago, Demon Disciple said:

Freo are hell bent on getting Kozzie, that is an understatement (Kozzie also seems hell bent on getting there). He’ll get there as thats the football landscape nowadays.

However, if Freo think they can lowball us on a trade they are seriously mistaken, given the length of Kozzies contract. We hold the cards and will get adequate compensation for him, whenever that will be.

Freo signing Dudley reeks of complete desperation by them.

If they're desperate, then they can cough up two early first round picks as a starting point.

Edited February 15Feb 15 by dazzledavey36

One of the brother boys told me Kozzie is just stirring the pot. If that’s true, awesome. But someone needs to school Koz on what’s funny and what’s not. 

Freo signing Dudley reeks of complete desperation by them. If they're desperate, then they can cough up two early first round picks as a starting point.

What if it's just a switch & bait set up by Koz to get all his relatives onto an AFL list with Freo being the perennial rubes? Now that would be funny!

 

 

Bobby Hill is now the news as he has “parked” his contract with reports that he is keen to get back to WA. His contract which is not a big $ one finishes in 2026. Let’s see how the media covers this one …

Bit of a whinge, but if he does end up going it's pretty heartbreaking for our supporter base more than anything. A difference maker, unpredictable, incredibly skilful with the discipline and application to match. About to hit his absolute prime age and maturity, getting physically stronger and on track as one of the best small forwards of all time. 

Like Jackson at 3, no one else had the balls to pick him at 12 and if they replayed that draft today I can guarantee no one would have touched him before 15. We took the risk. 

We've subsequently potentially over invested (relative to players with lesser needs) in his wellbeing, connections back home and overall happiness. 

He's been a champion for us and it's his life, you can't begrudge him for making a decision for family - but it will be gut wrenching to see him turn it on for another team. He's our special player - someone the opposition genuinely fears and cannot contain. 

Would just suck so much to lose him right in his prime 

Wish we had of landed Nick Watson now 😭 We tried hard. In fact, this whole situation re Kozzy’s departure may have been sensed back then, hence why we went crazy and offered pick 6 + a future first to move up to Hawthorn’s pick (pick 4) and grab him. Would’ve ended up being pick 6 and the pick we used on Langford, wild ! 

Edited February 16Feb 16 by Greg Schneider