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Since neither the Blues or the Pond Scum have a 2025 first round draft pick who else thinks Trac's prospects of moving just diminished significantly?

And that is before you think he has ahead another year of shared commitment, sacrifices and achievements to restore the bond with his Demon brothers. But really, with no first rounders on offer how could they deal?

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It's great to see Christian back to health and training again. 

I'm not being cynical... but why has he gone to Europe for this? Isn't there elite facilities like the this here, at say the AIS in Canberra for example? Maybe he wants to get into a completely new head space? Different environment?

Again, not being cynical just genuinely curious.

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1 minute ago, Pottsydee said:

It's great to see Christian back to health and training again. 

I'm not being cynical... but why has he gone to Europe for this? Isn't there elite facilities like the this here, at say the AIS in Canberra for example? Maybe he wants to get into a completely new head space? Different environment?

Again, not being cynical just genuinely curious.

IIRC It's a red bull training camp. I think he's sponsored by them, he's gone before as have other players.

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3 minutes ago, Pottsydee said:

It's great to see Christian back to health and training again. 

I'm not being cynical... but why has he gone to Europe for this? Isn't there elite facilities like the this here, at say the AIS in Canberra for example? Maybe he wants to get into a completely new head space? Different environment?

Again, not being cynical just genuinely curious.

He’s a Red Bull Ambassador so has been heading there for the last few years. Let’s be honest Canberra or Austria? I know where I’m going! I was hoping Clarry would be joining him.

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5 minutes ago, Pottsydee said:

It's great to see Christian back to health and training again. 

I'm not being cynical... but why has he gone to Europe for this? Isn't there elite facilities like the this here, at say the AIS in Canberra for example? Maybe he wants to get into a completely new head space? Different environment?

Again, not being cynical just genuinely curious.

Salzburg is a very interesting and picturesque place. It’s not that warm this time of year though, so unlike Christian I do recommend taking a shirt.

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I would have thought the family might be just over the hills.

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Now that it's all settling down, I wonder will some of us come to to the view that Petracca is deserving of enormous respect and thanks.  Disruptive, yes - but showing the way; doing what needed to be done. What MFC needed.  Come the start of next season, we will find out maybe 

In the first couple of hundred years of Christianity there was a debate about governance and purpose - some "authorities" were appointed by the community's recognised leaders, and some other leaders were recognised as having been gifted by God and therefore  as having the right to leadership.  Institutional as against charismatic leadership.  In time the institutional won, and the rest is history...

Petracca has charismatic gifts.  He has spoken about the state he was in as he walked back to the middle after his dribbler goal in the Grand Final.  We all have the look on his face in that moment etched into our memories.  The whatever-it-was in the split second that made him go for the dribbler - it rolled across the line at the exact centre mark of the goal line.  I was there - in context of the match this was pure inspiration, something totally off the show. Pure instinct - and so imaginatively powerful.  Way beyond the six points it got us.

Do I remember hearing that with a minute to go in the third, the story was "shut it down" and Clarry and Petracca said "nah - go for it!" ?  At the time, sitting in the stands, there was a feeling like in Greek tragedy of something huge and inevitable taking hold - and Petracca rose with it - even, was a huge part of it being lifted into view.  He certainly was then and may be regularly tuned in and operating above the institutional default.  Certainly he's impatient for greatness, and I think you could fairly say he's connected to purpose more so than the pragmatic norms-driven solid citizens. 

There's a place for the rules-breaker.  They can smash everything, I know,  but they can also release the shackles that lets better through.  

Post-Maynard and the test-case that so publicly displayed the fundamental dishonesty in the AFL's money-driven double-standards, the shake-up of the Melbourne Footy Club resulting from the public dissatisfaction of Petracca - this is a genuinely interesting drama way beyond the reach of the corrupt AFL. Potentially, it could launch the club back into contention with a break-out re-stating of priorities.  If it does, our gratitude to Petracca will be inestimable.  Like it was in that best of all days in Perth.

TIME TO Suspend disbelief, I reckon - faith may be going to get its reward.  The hard work Petracca is putting in looks pretty good to me.  He looks exactly like he did in Perth - driven, with no limits holding him.  So I'm genuinely interested to see what he's got in 2025.  There's a big story here.

 

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11 hours ago, Pottsydee said:

It's great to see Christian back to health and training again. 

I'm not being cynical... but why has he gone to Europe for this? Isn't there elite facilities like the this here, at say the AIS in Canberra for example? Maybe he wants to get into a completely new head space? Different environment?

Again, not being cynical just genuinely curious.

He's done it for the last 4 year.  He does it because there he has access to a much level of high performance personnel and facilties.  He does it because he's sponsored by Red Bull.  If it means he has a superior fitness than his opponents, who would anyone have an issue with it?

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1 hour ago, robbiefrom13 said:

Now that it's all settling down, I wonder will some of us come to to the view that Petracca is deserving of enormous respect and thanks.  Disruptive, yes - but showing the way; doing what needed to be done. What MFC needed.  Come the start of next season, we will find out maybe 

In the first couple of hundred years of Christianity there was a debate about governance and purpose - some "authorities" were appointed by the community's recognised leaders, and some other leaders were recognised as having been gifted by God and therefore  as having the right to leadership.  Institutional as against charismatic leadership.  In time the institutional won, and the rest is history...

Petracca has charismatic gifts.  He has spoken about the state he was in as he walked back to the middle after his dribbler goal in the Grand Final.  We all have the look on his face in that moment etched into our memories.  The whatever-it-was in the split second that made him go for the dribbler - it rolled across the line at the exact centre mark of the goal line.  I was there - in context of the match this was pure inspiration, something totally off the show. Pure instinct - and so imaginatively powerful.  Way beyond the six points it got us.

Do I remember hearing that with a minute to go in the third, the story was "shut it down" and Clarry and Petracca said "nah - go for it!" ?  At the time, sitting in the stands, there was a feeling like in Greek tragedy of something huge and inevitable taking hold - and Petracca rose with it - even, was a huge part of it being lifted into view.  He certainly was then and may be regularly tuned in and operating above the institutional default.  Certainly he's impatient for greatness, and I think you could fairly say he's connected to purpose more so than the pragmatic norms-driven solid citizens. 

There's a place for the rules-breaker.  They can smash everything, I know,  but they can also release the shackles that lets better through.  

Post-Maynard and the test-case that so publicly displayed the fundamental dishonesty in the AFL's money-driven double-standards, the shake-up of the Melbourne Footy Club resulting from the public dissatisfaction of Petracca - this is a genuinely interesting drama way beyond the reach of the corrupt AFL. Potentially, it could launch the club back into contention with a break-out re-stating of priorities.  If it does, our gratitude to Petracca will be inestimable.  Like it was in that best of all days in Perth.

TIME TO Suspend disbelief, I reckon - faith may be going to get its reward.  The hard work Petracca is putting in looks pretty good to me.  He looks exactly like he did in Perth - driven, with no limits holding him.  So I'm genuinely interested to see what he's got in 2025.  There's a big story here.

 

Thanks robbiefrom13 that was a great read, you captured the very essence of Christian Petracca, well written we should revisit this post at the end of 2025. 👏👏

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16 hours ago, Demon Disciple said:

Sorry but I don’t understand all the Trac love on here.

The bloke has clearly let himself go, doubling the amount of body fat from 3 to 6% 😂

Yeah weak as...no way could I double my body fat.

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22 minutes ago, Fritta and Turner said:

Yeah weak as...no way could I double my body fat.

Is that because 2 x 60 is >100? 🙄

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3 hours ago, roy11 said:

 

Anyone with a subscription able to post the main points?

It's largely available in an unlocked article on The Age: AFL 2024: Melbourne Demons would not have returned Christian Petracca to field after King’s Birthday Clash

"Richardson said there were lessons for the competition when asked about the club’s response to the incident at the Demons’ annual general meeting on Tuesday night.

“The athlete has a fair bit of say in what happens there. I reckon that will be something that probably will get looked at, not just from our footy club but in the AFL going forward … they are just competitive beasts who want to get out and play and that carries a lot of weight. How much weight should that carry?” Richardson said.

“My understanding is that incident will continue to get investigated … we will want to get better as an industry, not just from our football club...

“It was a really difficult situation for our medical team. It has basically never happened before. He then went to the next hospital and they didn’t diagnose it properly. So that gives you an understanding of how difficult it was...

“The doctors, with the evidence they had at the time, did the right thing. In hindsight, would we do something different if we knew the extent of the injury? Of course, he would not have gone back out on the ground,” Richardson said.

“We will always put player safety first from a coaching perspective … we just get out of the way. That’s the doctor’s call.”

And then Goodwin:

Coach Simon Goodwin said he had been “blown away” by how Petracca had returned to the club. “He is really connected with his teammates and is driving really high-quality training sessions,” he said.

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28 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

It's largely available in an unlocked article on The Age: AFL 2024: Melbourne Demons would not have returned Christian Petracca to field after King’s Birthday Clash

"Richardson said there were lessons for the competition when asked about the club’s response to the incident at the Demons’ annual general meeting on Tuesday night.

“The athlete has a fair bit of say in what happens there. I reckon that will be something that probably will get looked at, not just from our footy club but in the AFL going forward … they are just competitive beasts who want to get out and play and that carries a lot of weight. How much weight should that carry?” Richardson said.

“My understanding is that incident will continue to get investigated … we will want to get better as an industry, not just from our football club...

“It was a really difficult situation for our medical team. It has basically never happened before. He then went to the next hospital and they didn’t diagnose it properly. So that gives you an understanding of how difficult it was...

“The doctors, with the evidence they had at the time, did the right thing. In hindsight, would we do something different if we knew the extent of the injury? Of course, he would not have gone back out on the ground,” Richardson said.

“We will always put player safety first from a coaching perspective … we just get out of the way. That’s the doctor’s call.”

And then Goodwin:

Coach Simon Goodwin said he had been “blown away” by how Petracca had returned to the club. “He is really connected with his teammates and is driving really high-quality training sessions,” he said.

It's not that long ago that footballers used to have too much say about returning to the ground after being concussed. Taking the decision away from players after receiving abdominal injuries seems like the next logical step to protect players from themselves.

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13 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

It's not that long ago that footballers used to have too much say about returning to the ground after being concussed. Taking the decision away from players after receiving abdominal injuries seems like the next logical step to protect players from themselves.

Yes, sure, but this was really a unique injury.  Not everyone with a knee to the ribs needs to taken to hospital stat.  Remember how long it took at Epworth for this to be recognized too. Hopefully they will learn that a non contrast CT is not enough in a trauma situation.  I heard from an impeccable source that it took a very astute Demon fan surgeon to get things properly investigated and transferred 
That said I am sure that the club and the AFL has had some “learnings”.

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