Christian Petracca

[gs77 3,912]

14 minutes ago, ANG13 said:

No way they offer up TDK. 

TDK could do amazing things for our system.

[Nascent 8,585]

If we move on trac, it can't be less than a top 5 pick, best 22 player and future 1st. 

We then go hell for leather in bringing across Butters or Callaghan at the end of next year. Or Harley Reid though West Coast aren't going to give him up easily.

Edited August 26 by Nascent

[seventyfour 987]

We won a flag but it was in Perth and it hasn't been that rosy since. Could argue the curse of Norm Smith is still with us.

Perhaps the answer is we need to trade our most recently Norm Smith medallist, sending the curse to another club...?

Trade him to Collingwood.

[dees189227 12,017]

So according to McClure these are the 5 points why trac wants out.

Clubs refusal to deal with Oliver situation

Clubs management of his injury 

Clubs poor form

Wants to play in front of bigger crowds

Wants to establish his offield brand and offield earnings.

Who is leaking this out?

I can understand being frustrated with Oliver & maybe letting it get to far, injury, ok he should have not been allowed back on in hindsight, he didn't have an issue with crowds when he signed on for 5 years.

His offield brand. Well he can establish that himself.  Is he going to turn into an influencer 

[ANG13 1,968]

2 minutes ago, gs77 said:

TDK could do amazing things for our system.

Yeah he would be great for us or pretty much any team. He would be in the handful of untouchables at Carlton though. 

[bing181 8,864]

I don't see that any clubs, yet alone Melbourne-based clubs, have the trade capital, not to mention the A-grade player to throw in. Apparently Hawthorn interested (though who knows ...), but they only have Pick 12 and ???

[Pirlo 813]

2 hours ago, chook fowler said:

Except he is under contract and can only move at our pleasure 

The strategy appears to be to make life as difficult as possible for the club in the following ways:

1. A personal media embargo, including pulling out of an interview last minute

2. All media leaks being done through his management on Sunday and Monday nights, when the footy shows are on

3. Burning relationships with his teammates and hoping the players can apply the burn for him by saying they're not keen to play with him

4. Knowing the club leaders are/should be under pressure and trying to force them to make statements they can't confidently keep to

[Deestar9 1,548]

I still remember his first interview on AFL 360 when Lachie Neale was on . He broke down but I felt then he was a bit lukewarm on the MFC. Have always wondered how he quickly fulfilled his media/tv commitments but never once shot out even a few words to the supporters. As I’ve stated before ..he’s obviously a sensational player but if the mental anguish he has been feeling is rivalling the physical trauma then who knows how he will be next year. We can’t fulfill the big club/big crowds ..Casey training grounds so if he wants to go let’s play absolute hard ball & set ourselves up. There is no way the club will be saying anything else but he’s here to stay etc because they will be aiming for the best deal going round.

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49 minutes ago, Elwood 3184 said:

Tom Papley says good evening.

Because of the coach

[DistrACTION Jackson 8,283]

5 minutes ago, Nascent said:

If we move on trac, it can't be less than a top 5 pick, best 22 player and future 1st. 

We then go hell for leather in bringing across Butters or Callaghan at the end of next year. Or Harley Reid though West Coast aren't going to give him up easily.

Would you do Cerra and Carlton’s first pick this year and 1st next year?

[John Demonic 5,480]

1 minute ago, bing181 said:

I don't see that any clubs, yet alone Melbourne-based clubs, have the trade capital, not to mention the A-grade player to throw in. Apparently Hawthorn interested (though who knows ...), but they only have Pick 12 and ???

Sam Frost

[Little Richard 6,210]

12 minutes ago, OutOfTheCentre21 said:

McKay and a pick. I'd also be interested in picking up an Ollie Wines to assist in the short term. 

Just a flat out no to McKay.

[Pirlo 813]

1 hour ago, Oxdee said:

Christian was all in on the dees. Signed on to be a player for life. The club have dropped the ball to let this happen. Pure incompetence 

His brand has exploded in the years since he signed that contract, thanks to the cooking. Presumably his priorities have changed.

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[Young Blood 2,235]

3 minutes ago, DistrACTION Jackson said:

Would you do Cerra and Carlton’s first pick this year and 1st next year?

No way... Cerra's soft tissue injuries are a concern.

These are way unders for a top 5 player in the league.

Edited August 26 by Young Blood

[Nascent 8,585]

1 minute ago, DistrACTION Jackson said:

Would you do Cerra and Carlton’s first pick this year and 1st next year?

Cerra doesn't excite me and neither of those picks are likely to be top 10 so no from me. 

[FreedFromDesire 553]

How far is Noosa from the Gold Coast I wonder?

[Neil Crompton 5,303]

4 minutes ago, bing181 said:

I don't see that any clubs, yet alone Melbourne-based clubs, have the trade capital, not to mention the A-grade player to throw in. Apparently Hawthorn interested (though who knows ...), but they only have Pick 12 and ???

Pick 12 and Frosty?

[Jaded No More 67,469]

How would a club that values their cohesion and culture feel about welcoming someone who has gone to town burning their club/teammates, for the sake of growing their social media profile? 

[Pirlo 813]

49 minutes ago, Colm said:

 

He will have been getting well advised by Connors and his brother for weeks. They must think they can get a deal done. 

Yep. They would surely have told him that a deal would be impossible unless he was willing to blow things up over the course of weeks on end. Many of us are so sick of this that we're thinking about the return we could get, two weeks ago that was unthinkable.

[Dr. Gonzo 23,656]

1 hour ago, bing181 said:

The remark earlier here that Trac isn't himself post-injury trauma is something that I can confirm on a personal level (to some extent, not comparing my experiences to anyone else's). You see the world differently, small issues get magnified out of all proportion, you lose sight of the big picture and it takes good people and support to keep you on the straight and narrow and restore some measure of equilibrium.

No idea of anything re Trac, but wouldn't surprise me if he was struggling, nor that he might not fully grasp that he was.

Alternatively it could be that the injury/trauma made him reassess his life/career and a desire to move on from a place he can see hasn't addressed the concerns he's raised previously or from a place that will never be the big club he wants to be part of etc.

To the other parties it can look as though he is not himself but it may just be that his priorities have changed or that he has made a decision to go in a different direction. He is still himself he is just acting differently towards the club/players because he has decided he wants to be elsewhere.

[Young Blood 2,235]

Is there a hint of the Judd trade about this if current type of Carlton trade were to come to fruition?

Dominating midfielder goes for key forward with picks...

[Gawndy the Great 9,008]

5 minutes ago, DistrACTION Jackson said:

Would you do Cerra and Carlton’s first pick this year and 1st next year?

Cerra has guitar strings as hammys. No way. 

[Engorged Onion 10,099]

3 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Alternatively it could be that the injury/trauma made him reassess his life/career and a desire to move on from a place he can see hasn't addressed the concerns he's raised previously or from a place that will never be the big club he wants to be part of etc.

To the other parties it can look as though he is not himself but it may just be that his priorities have changed or that he has made a decision to go in a different direction. He is still himself he is just acting differently towards the club/players because he has decided he wants to be elsewhere.

Values and priorities are his prerogative to change at any stage of his life, and with that, there are a range of consequences, both desirable and undesirable, that he will accept, and that's ok.

Pursue things vigorously, and hold them lightly.

Edited August 26 by Engorged Onion

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If Petracca leaves, it would be great to see him line up against a renewed fit and firing Oliver and watch Clarrie work him over.