Coaching, viney and Oliver the biggest culprits.

Saying effort wasn’t there is a lazy take.. easily won contested ball. But the team looks totally lost going forward.. that’s all coaching.

Viney and Oliver are out and out liabilities with the ball in their hand. Completely pathetic for so called leaders..

Wrong thread

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Aside from Gawn no one really stood up

when we getting smashed, no one made a statement with a bump or whatever

just soft. 

Soft players and club

1 minute ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Pack your bags Simon, you're done..

While you're at it take Richo, Pert, Roffey, Chaplin, Williams, Stafford with you on the way out.

 

Someone needs to own this ridiculous kicking at goal.

We are now a club that gifts players games. Oliver with no real pre season. Petty. Laurie. Billings.

But where are the replacements?

What happened to us that all of a sudden we find the cupboard is bare?

Darcy Moore is up there with Maynard.

We have gone from top four to season absolutely done and dusted.

What a huge response from us today.

God forbid we just turn up.

I just hope the club doesn't feed us any more dribble. Todays lack of effort says it all.

Maybe in his wisdom Goody told the players not to touch Maynard in fear of the distraction. I hope so because otherwise we look weak.

Don't worry lads...just wait until next week ....we will respond. Pfff.

 

I know we would have scolded Goody if we hadn’t of tagged Daicos, but tagging Daicos with AnB let them have that extra spare down back which absolutely killed our forward chances, especially early.

Very poor from our mids again, especially after half time. Got belted in clearance. Bit hard to win territory when they win clearances (especially centre clearances so easily)

Should have gone a hard tag from Viney if I’m honest but he doesn’t have the tank. I know he puts 100% in but he’s the opposite of a dangerous mid, he’s offering us nothing at the moment.

Poor coaching again of our mids. We just have no answer to winning clearances.

Poor coaching again of our forwards. I’m not sure what they’re doing with Fritsch but he doesn’t look dangerous anymore.

We’re just a middle of the road side extremely down on confidence. If I were Goody, I’d use the remaining games for a launchpad for 2025. 

 

How many analysts and coaches do we employ and we build a list of Z grade footballers completely unsuited to modern football.

Our list is completely unbalanced with many fading players at the back end of their careers, and a few unproven kids of dubious quality. 

Our fitness levels are appalling and our game plan is non existent. The players look like a bunch of strangers thrown together and asked to compete in a game they have never played before. And the coach is a delusional egomaniac with questionable life habits. 

1 minute ago, DeeZee said:

I thought we played ok just didn’t convert as usual.

If they don’t drop Petty next week I’m not going .

What are the odds on Sportsbet? I'll mortgage my house that Goodwin will keep him.

He and his mates have to go.

Something is rotten.

Even Fritsch was turning from 60 out to a forward line with 2 free Dee's and one pies defender and kicking it straight to the pies player. Multiple times.

Disco's disposal was putrid.

If it isn't for JVR and Koz our forward line is non existent.

He's lost the players.

I'd love some insight from the poor buggers that went today.

What is going on?

6 minutes ago, layzie said:

We stunk up the joint today on the biggest stage in front of 85,000. 

And this is what bugs me the most.
Essendon and Collingwood are celebrated on ANZAC day because no matter how bad either of them are going they put on a show usually.

Us ... Nup, turn up our toes like the basket case we are.

Oh .... And sick of all the BS coming from the club.
Just STFU and play.
Don't care what ya think ya gonna do.
Just forken .... DO.

 

 

 

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1 minute ago, Deelectable said:

Goodwin has admitted that both himself and family have been affected by the off field dramas. Totally understandable.  However, given our extraordinary demise, I just wonder if it might have all become too much for him and he may not last the season? Lose to North and it will be on a knife-edge. 

I am genuinely concerned for him. Somehow he has killed this list, he should move on for his own sake. 
We need new blood 

Simon needs a new challenge 

2 minutes ago, YesitwasaWin4theAges said:

Chandler, Sparrow, Petty, Fritsch, Rivers, Kozi, Salem or anyone with trade value just start at the end of 2024.

New coach, new outlook, fresh ideas and input from fresh assistant coaches.

Yze should have taken the reigns.

 

Add Oliver to that list. 
A real leader of the club would have self imposed a suspension and not played to start the year until he completed the work that he missed. 
He is a young guy that went through a lot clearly, but clearly not team first and those issues are still bubbling. 

Surely… surely Petty goes now.

Fullarton has to be a better option (and yes.. I know). At least it leaves Van Rooyen forward…

 

Distant Monarch, mother-in-laws cooking = Far King Disgusting. Pathetic planning for this match. 

7 minutes ago, Maldonboy38 said:

Team stats very even. Occasional lack of intensity but so did the Pies. Gameplan looks to be basically OK but no run and carry or angle-kicks to break open lines and angles. Similar shots on goal. 

Our in close to outside handballing is atrocious. Our kicking skills inside F50 is worse. 

The unevenness is they have half their team out

4 finals in a row we’ve lost because we can’t convert. 

Today, 21 scoring shots to 19 with the easiest conditions to score. The week after ‘enough is enough’ with top 4 and top 8 on the line. 
 

Lose by 38. 
 

Kicking to player disadvantage all over the ground. 

Players mindset is obviously screwed. Commentators referencing that we look ‘scared/afraid/timid’ and we’re the 3rd most experienced list. Where is our resolve? 
 

See if Roos wants to coach again and I’m not even joking. Goodwin and the current coaches are unable to fix our problem between the ears. 
 

There is something seriously wrong. Weed out the problem players and get a god damn proper forward coach. This current set up is not going to get it done obviously. 

 

 

 

 

5 minutes ago, bing181 said:

Much of this turns on three players for mine:

- Oliver. Missed most of the pre-season and has never got going. His under-performance around the ball is costing us badly, especially when we're having to play Petracca more forward.

- Lever. Back line is all at sea without him and May is exposed.

- Melksham. Is to the forward line what Lever is to the backline, the general. Without him we're lacking leadership, experience and smarts.

Bad form to quote my own post, but should have added a postscript to that as there's a fourth player. Angus Brayshaw. It was playing Brayshaw through the middle that let us release Petracca forward. Unfortunately, there's no-one even close to stepping into his shoes.

That game was almost worse to watch than the Fremantle one. We might have been half a chance to win if our players could convert simple opportunities, if the Arc was on our side for once, if our players could execute simple handpasses. If we just held on for 15 more seconds before half time. If Collingwood kicked normally from turnovers instead of 9.0 and no-namers like Krueger and Harrison suddenly turning into prime Gunston and Breust in front of goal. It was such an almost game early on that I felt like my sould was literally being sucked out of me. Langdon's poster in the third was the final straw for me. 

Let's be honest, a forward line featuring Petty and Turner is better suited to 2013 Dees and not a premiership tilt. 

 

 

 

Just now, Jerry Lundergard said:

The unevenness is they have half their team out

I hear that they have a lot of talent out.. but we were beaten as much by system which we played directly in to.

Turn the ball over, run hard the other way.. don’t need talent to do that.

What really was of concern was players coming in and playing their role. The turnover of players at years end, Bradshaw and Smith also no longer we just don’t have the cattle to replace roles. Zero depth.  Our offseason was horrible also. Not just the disruptions but Petty and Oliver no preseason and both are barely in our best 22 at present showing!
Don’t understand the decision to plays Billings as the sub surely Woey is a better player here.

I'm really not sure where we go from here

If there are any of you that still don't believe our era is over please explain how you can justify your reasoning.

We are playing like a bottom 6 team, and most bottom 6 teams will pants us right now.

I'm forever grateful for our flag, but this has been a massive failure with this list.

12 minutes ago, praha said:

We were playing a Collingwood team LITERALLY missing half their team.

Didn’t suggest we weren’t. All I said was that the desire and the hunt was there early. Whether you’re playing superstars or spuds, if you don’t take your chances you don’t win. Pretty simple.

19 minutes ago, layzie said:

Dee-grading

There was no capitulation. The effort was there but skills failed us. Our skills didn’t seem up to the game we’re trying to play.

A classic MFC tale. 

Bye week starts now. See you all next Thursday.