On 10/04/2024 at 10:42, Demonsterative said:

Thanks DD.

 

My worry is Heywood is more of a mark and kick at goal fwd, rather than a ground ball player. Smacca is more dynamic and has different qualities, such as athletic and defensive qualities. Case in point is Kozzie. I’m not against Heywood, just not at a price that is too high. His strength and marking ability would be a  ask us a better team. 

 

I agree more midfield depth and a KPB is a priority 

 

Stats and influence on a game are two different things. 

Can't argue with much of that.

I watch the Swans quite a bit and just not as impressed with Hayward as some seem to be on here.

If we could only land such players on low coin as suggested.   My fear is this rarely happens now with established players at mid rated (& especially higher rated) clubs?  They often want overs (assuming player is not a FA), even for middle rung (or lower) strength players on their list.

Edited April 10, 20241 yr by Demon Dynasty

  On 09/04/2024 at 21:48, Demon Dynasty said:

52% career accuracy....just above Florent (who's getting a mention here)  @ 50% and ahead of the specialist small forward Papley @ 47%.  Papley averages 1.6 goals a game.

Do we need another medium forward though?  We have Fritta (1.7 goals a game @ 57% accuracy) & Smacca, who once he gets up to speed appears to be slightly more effective than  Hayward...

We seriously need more mid field class / depth and a KF for 25 and beyond,  assuming Petty's not extending beyond next season and this is BB's last year.

We might also need to replace Maysie if Adams doesn't come on this season.  I'd be seriously considering  Sam Collins for an interim stop gap.  30 yo when he comes out of contract in 25/26.

Just my view but i'd like to see us putting  effort / cap space $$ into these three areas.

Haward has almost played 100 more games than McAdam, which I would argue means his starts are much better.  not to mention the professionalism.

Im not 100% sure about the mid class, unless it is uber class.  The perfect mids for our team would be a Merrett, Dawson, Gulden type player.  otherwise I don't think they are worth chasing with our core mid group.

McLuggage is a free agent and could be that player!

  On 10/04/2024 at 02:09, Little Goffy said:

Agreed. With Jason Taylor steadily churning out quality players everywhere except over 193cm, we really need to make that investment.

Fullarton hasn't had a chance yet and I instinctively like him as a prospect, but we can't keep churning through other club's surplus.

Taylor, Weitering and Harris Andrews are all free agents at end of 2025, for what it is worth. ;)

Taylor yes, Andrews and Weitering are  maybe not fit enough for us.

  On 10/04/2024 at 13:02, Travy14 said:

Haward has almost played 100 more games than McAdam, which I would argue means his starts are much better.  not to mention the professionalism.

Im not 100% sure about the mid class, unless it is uber class.  The perfect mids for our team would be a Merrett, Dawson, Gulden type player.  otherwise I don't think they are worth chasing with our core mid group.

McLuggage is a free agent and could be that player!

Fwoar imagine Winsdor and Clug on either side 😃

  On 10/04/2024 at 06:30, Binmans PA said:

Weitering the Melbourne supporter you mean? 😜

I thought he'd recently extended, but happy to hear he could be on the market post 2025. Would be the perfect May replacement and since he gives his bank details away to anyone, he might need the extra cash.

I reckon there is as much chance of Weitering going to the Dees as there is of Trac going to the Pies.

Weitering's contract is up at the end of 2025 but I reckon Carlton will definitely be looking after him and Tom De Koning and have probably already budgeted cap space to make it happen.

McGovern is on a fair bit of coin, as are Martin & Williams. Those 3 off the list doesn't hurt them, but frees up a heap of cap space.

  On 10/04/2024 at 02:18, Mazer Rackham said:

Does he pass the character test? I mean, he's been up his mum and his legless sister and he thinks he's killed his old man.

Good fit for Collingwood 

I think we should sign up that Demon Eddy.

Early days but that kids got some fire in his belly.

  On 10/04/2024 at 11:01, Demonsterative said:

The KP recruiting failures from JT is not actually the case. Can you provide (other than Weid) his failures? Back it up with draft position too. 

Petty, Jackson and Vanrooyen are his three winners. 

Weideman is the clear miss at pick 9 2015.

There are only a few late pick busts like Hulett and Kielty, the rest are top up or role players like Mitch Brown and Majak Daw.

We have traded in May, Lever, Ben Brown, Grundy, Tomlinson and Fullerton during that time which has reduced the need to take a punt on a late pick.

If Jackson was still on the list people would probably never question his recruitment of talls. It's only because he left and there is an obvious hole in the list that people just come up with the post you replied to without looking at evidence.

  On 11/04/2024 at 03:54, BAMF said:

Petty, Jackson and Vanrooyen are his three winners. 

Weideman is the clear miss at pick 9 2015.

There are only a few late pick busts like Hulett and Kielty, the rest are top up or role players like Mitch Brown and Majak Daw.

We have traded in May, Lever, Ben Brown, Grundy, Tomlinson and Fullerton during that time which has reduced the need to take a punt on a late pick.

If Jackson was still on the list people would probably never question his recruitment of talls. It's only because he left and there is an obvious hole in the list that people just come up with the post you replied to without looking at evidence.

I still can’t see a miss other than Wied. There are always misses with late picks and you can’t pin that on JT. 
 

Jackson is a hit. He left and that is not on JT.
 

Hulett and Kielty is not a sample size, as is Mitch Brown or Daw. They were back ups only, that came cheap. 

Best mate is a Swans supporter. He's not overly fond of Heywood and couldn't care less if he leaves. "Kicks 3 goals then disappears for a month. Doesn't have the physical presence of other bigs. Doesn't have the speed or intensity of Paps and co. Easy one to move on for cap space".

Jefferson is a miss 

  On 11/04/2024 at 08:10, Roost it far said:

Jefferson is a miss 

That’s a very early call RiF. I hope you are wrong. 

  On 11/04/2024 at 08:13, Demonsterative said:

That’s a very early call RiF. I hope you are wrong. 

It's my feel currently. i love being proved wrong in these situations

It’s a No from me

@DubDee asked politely for a bump.

thanks DZ!

kicked 4.1

7 tackles

go for him 

  On 11/04/2024 at 08:03, Lord Travis said:

Best mate is a Swans supporter. He's not overly fond of Heywood and couldn't care less if he leaves. "Kicks 3 goals then disappears for a month. Doesn't have the physical presence of other bigs. Doesn't have the speed or intensity of Paps and co. Easy one to move on for cap space".

  On 04/05/2024 at 07:09, DubDee said:

thanks DZ!

kicked 4.1

7 tackles

go for him 

So, a quiet month coming up...

  On 09/04/2024 at 09:10, Dee Zephyr said:

@goodwindees

with good mail again, I think back in Feb he told us Blues were heavily into Hayward and Florent. 
I’d take Hayward.

Just signed a 5 year extension with the Swans. 'Good mail'?🤣

  On 04/06/2024 at 02:03, Deelectable said:

Just signed a 5 year extension with the Swans. 'Good mail'?🤣

Good luck to Hayward and the Swans. The mail from the very reliable poster  was that the clubs were keen on his services, not necessarily he would end up there.

And no need to be a [censored] smart azz about it. 

Edited June 4, 2024Jun 4 by Dee Zephyr

 

  On 04/06/2024 at 02:11, Dee Zephyr said:

Good luck to Hayward and the Swans. The mail from the very reliable poster  was that the clubs were keen on his services, not necessarily he would end up there.

And no need to be a [censored] smart azz about it. 

Breaking news! Clubs keen on a free agent. Grounbreaking.

  On 04/06/2024 at 02:21, Deelectable said:

Breaking news! Clubs keen on a free agent. Grounbreaking.

Even less of a reason to be so personally abusive. 

  On 04/06/2024 at 02:21, Deelectable said:

Breaking news! Clubs keen on a free agent. Grounbreaking.

Goodwindees has an excellent track record of good mail that they generously share here, often well before it hits the media.

 

  On 04/06/2024 at 02:43, Nascent said:

Goodwindees has an excellent track record of good mail that they generously share here, often well before it hits the media.

 

To be fair Deelectable’s probably not been on Land long enough to be familiar with GoodwinDees track record.