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13 minutes ago, whatwhat say what said:

very different players

west might've been good today, but there's a reason she was dropped last week

Aside from a few feet in height not really, they are both poor kicks. But they have their obvious strengths and they have a role to play in the team. I just want them to stick to their strengths and not bite off more than they can chew. Granted Westy turned the ball over against Brisbane but we got beaten up badly in the midfield physically against North and that is why she was back in the team today and shouldn’t have been dropped in the fist place. Personally I would have dropped McNamara who was again ineffective today costing us 2 goals from her turnovers. Dropped chestmark in the second and a turnover kick in the third. McNamara tries but it’s not happening for her and think West has more value to the team than McNamara. Will be an interesting off season for the list management team. 

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28 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Disappointing performance.  But please, can we please not link the mens performance into this.

Far too many excuses last week with illness, so what is this week? When you let an opposition get out to a big lead then you find yourself majority of the game playing catch up and it can be mentally draining.

Some big decisions looms for a few players in the off season. 

What an incredibly disappointing finish to the year.

There is a sameness to how they performed in the finals, and the game plan looked very familiar with a heavy reliance on a tall at the edge of the square who didn’t take marks and their finals downfall was poor kicking which led to poor forward connection.

It’s hard not to compare.

but gee the girls brand of footy was great to watch up to round 8.  
Actually so were the men…..

 

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1 minute ago, DEE32 said:

There is a sameness to how they performed in the finals, and the game plan looked very familiar with a heavy reliance on a tall at the edge of the square who didn’t take marks and their finals downfall was poor kicking which led to poor forward connection.

It’s hard not to compare.

but gee the girls brand of footy was great to watch up to round 8.  
Actually so were the men…..

 

It was very 2022 like.

Men win 10 games in a row, Women's played amazing first half of the year but both absolutely choked in finals.

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2 hours ago, DeeSpencer said:

Kate Hore is a bit soft when there’s pressure on her at ground level, she should’ve ate Emonson in that contest before. Not Banno level soft but room for improvement 

Kate Hope soft????? She is tough and throws herself into packs adding strength to her obvious skills. Very harsh comment citing just one incident which I didn't notice.  You are a hard marker. You don't be multiple All Australians being so called soft. Chill mate!

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9 minutes ago, Bobby McKenzie said:

Kate Hope soft????? She is tough and throws herself into packs adding strength to her obvious skills. Very harsh comment citing just one incident which I didn't notice.  You are a hard marker. You don't be multiple All Australians being so called soft. Chill mate!

About a dozen times this year she’s got the fumbles or missed simple goals running in to open shots when pressure from behind.

She’s 95% there but for a captain there’s another level required. 

Our star players this year fell short. That’s Hore, Harris, Zanker (pre q4), Hanks (more of a rotation mid), Purcell, Gay. 

They have to go up a level to match the oppositions stars.

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2 hours ago, ElDiablo14 said:

Feels like too "corporate", if that is an actual way to describe it.

Absolutely get where you are coming from. Last year it was “ Demon Spirit” merchandise for finals. This year it was “ Possessed” merchandise. To the Melbourne Football Club, please no more slogans just let your football do the talking. Win finals, especially finals in Melbourne. That will put dollars in the bank account and give us more credibility.

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35 minutes ago, Dee Viney Intervention said:

Absolutely get where you are coming from. Last year it was “ Demon Spirit” merchandise for finals. This year it was “ Possessed” merchandise. To the Melbourne Football Club, please no more slogans just let your football do the talking. Win finals, especially finals in Melbourne. That will put dollars in the bank account and give us more credibility.

Demon spirit is one of the more cringiest slogans going around.

Seriously wish we'd just ditch it all together and have no more slogans.

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41 minutes ago, Dee Viney Intervention said:

Absolutely get where you are coming from. Last year it was “ Demon Spirit” merchandise for finals. This year it was “ Possessed” merchandise. To the Melbourne Football Club, please no more slogans just let your football do the talking. Win finals, especially finals in Melbourne. That will put dollars in the bank account and give us more credibility.

The "Possessed" bollocks was the very encapsulation of cringe. Trying to suggest we were in everyone else's heads, then to crash out in straight sets, to the Big Clubs with their 19th Man and all that. Terrible.

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2 hours ago, DeeSpencer said:

About a dozen times this year she’s got the fumbles or missed simple goals running in to open shots when pressure from behind.

She’s 95% there but for a captain there’s another level required. 

Our star players this year fell short. That’s Hore, Harris, Zanker (pre q4), Hanks (more of a rotation mid), Purcell, Gay. 

They have to go up a level to match the oppositions stars.

"About a dozen times this year" That's ONE per match. Not too bad really is it? She is an excellent captain and is loved by her teammates. Leads by example too and you can't do much more than that. Are you really saying she is not a good leader?

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Far out. Another choke. Goddam it.

less talk about culture and more action on the field next season please.

Very disappointing finals series for both teams for different reasons. hopefully the club can reset properly in the off season and come back stronger next year. 

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1 hour ago, Dee Viney Intervention said:

Absolutely get where you are coming from. Last year it was “ Demon Spirit” merchandise for finals. This year it was “ Possessed” merchandise. To the Melbourne Football Club, please no more slogans just let your football do the talking. Win finals, especially finals in Melbourne. That will put dollars in the bank account and give us more credibility.

 

1 hour ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Demon spirit is one of the more cringiest slogans going around.

Seriously wish we'd just ditch it all together and have no more slogans.

 

58 minutes ago, gs77 said:

The "Possessed" bollocks was the very encapsulation of cringe. Trying to suggest we were in everyone else's heads, then to crash out in straight sets, to the Big Clubs with their 19th Man and all that. Terrible.

Agreed i can't stand all that hype rubbish.  Just get out there and play white line fever (like Demons) every game.

That's all that matters from that point and it shouldn't need constant pre-match re-emphasise via corporate branding / vids etc.

Very cringeworthy.

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After playing so good for 2/3rds of the year it is very unusual to fall away so dramatically at the pointy end of the year. Why the fall from grace, one moment we are playing like a well oiled machine then two weeks later we look like a bunch of strangers. Something has broken down within the team structure, maybe two finals series in the one year is a step to far?

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9 hours ago, BDA said:

Far out. Another choke. Goddam it.

less talk about culture and more action on the field next season please.

Very disappointing finals series for both teams for different reasons. hopefully the club can reset properly in the off season and come back stronger next year. 

Maybe after premiership wins the club needs to post a disclaimer, like an investment company, current results are no guarantee of future performance.

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Such a disappointing end to the season! Would have never guessed circa Round 9 that we'd crash and burn so spectacularly.

First three quarters were basically a repeat of the last few weeks, though we were more physical and had slightly better connection and at least were able to create some movement forward. But the players left loose, lack of run, missed kicks and repeatedly being pushed under the footy in marking contests, sigh. And some ill discipline creeping in due to the frustration of it all.

A different team in the last quarter, though part of that was Geelong initially taking a foot of the pedal to let us back in. Credit to the those who led the fight back though. THANK GOD FOR GOLDRICK.

It does suggest that there were some mental shackles on the team, that once released, saw us show some spark. Even still, if we'd snuck over the line, barring some miraculous return to form, I couldn't see us doing much against Brisbane.

The competition is narrowing in the middle section. Next season might see the bridge to the top teams crossed. It's dangerous to stagnate in this competition where staying still means going rapidly backwards. This is the first year that I feel like what we added in personnel or game plan was consolidation rather than progress. Recent performances notwithstanding, though, we do have a good core of players who can learn and execute a (hopefully revitalised!) game plan.

Anyway, thanks to everyone for the discussion here this season. Time to turn back to the men's. Thus is the cycle of the never-ending football season.

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4 hours ago, Dees_In_October said:

THANK GOD FOR GOLDRICK

She's been our most consistent player this year and can hold her head high this finals series. Won a three in a row with Dublin and it shows. No resting on her laurels, lack of hunger or complacency from Goldy. 

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I wasn't able to catch a lot of the girls games this year so it's made it easier to judge this game on it's merits. 

Got jumped and didn't seem to have an answer, it looked like it was over obviously as 5 goal margins in a final are hard to reel in when you have next to nothing on the board. I have to give a lot of credit for the fightback though, playing quick and taking the game on through the middle. These girls are lighting fast with handballs off the deck and we used it to our advantage in the second half. Goldrick was sensational and a catalyst for it all, Zanker made the most of opportunites and binned them when they were badly needed. 

A late shot at goal almost forcing the tie and who knows what would have happened with another 5 seconds on the clock. 

The fightback was awesome, but when all is said and done you do have to look to that start that we gave up. If you're not ready, you get rolled. Flat way to end the year from the guys and girls. 

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18 hours ago, DeeZone said:

After playing so good for 2/3rds of the year it is very unusual to fall away so dramatically at the pointy end of the year. Why the fall from grace, one moment we are playing like a well oiled machine then two weeks later we look like a bunch of strangers. Something has broken down within the team structure, maybe two finals series in the one year is a step to far?

That’s not correct. We won the flag in 2022. So your post isn't even correct for 2022. 

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