The way things look right now I'll be happy to just win a final!!

But I'm sure that by the time the season starts I'll be expecting and believing in a demon flag!

Ahhh I misread this as look at the early call we made for the 2023 season, which understandably upset me.

I'm ready to go for 2024, back to tentatively believing in us as flag chances.  We have issues but we can resolve them!

Edited October 25, 20231 yr by DeelightfulPlay
Misreading... mistyping... maybe it's time for bed

I think I’ll wait until Round 6 of the fix-ture.  That should give us a sense of where we and everyone else is at. Set expectations from there.

 

i want us to win the flag.  Minimum is top 4 plus at least 1 final win.

Agree with the Flag call.

If we have a fit JVR and Petty we win it all.

Last 2 years we have had a weak forward spine in both finals.

At a minimum win one final in Melbourne 

Essendon and Freo expecting to play finals?

5 teams have to finish bottom 14- 18 on the ladder.

Who if not them?

 

Pass mark is to win a final.

We might benefit to finish 5th or 6th rather than 3rd or 4th to get some of that straight set exit pressure off our shoulders and then make the GF the long way.

I don’t think any MFC supporter could handle another two MCG finals losses without a September win. It’s humiliating.

Edited October 25, 20231 yr by Bring-Back-Powell

Our window won’t stay open forever. We won’t have many more chances after next year. Gotta win the flag 

1 hour ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Pass mark is to win a final.

We might benefit to finish 5th or 6th rather than 3rd or 4th to get some of that straight set exit pressure off our shoulders and then make the GF the long way.

I don’t think any MFC supporter could handle another two MCG finals losses without a September win. It’s humiliating.

BBP - sounds a bit defeatist.

Finish top 2 (or 4) and bugger recent finals history, each season is a new one.   Just win the QF and the next two.   Easy stuff 🤫

 

Edited October 25, 20231 yr by monoccular

10 hours ago, YesitwasaWin4theAges said:

Agree with the Flag call.

If we have a fit JVR and Petty we win it all.

Last 2 years we have had a weak forward spine in both finals.

People overlook this so much, last 2 seasons our forward line was shot, also fritz was playing on 1 leg in the finals.

No grand final that I can see for the dees in my view

We have had our chances other sides are going past us

The list contains 13 teams that are going to play finals  who misses is probably a better measure ment

Grand Final or bust!

Overcome the BS, scale the heights and take the flag with resolve.

Edited October 25, 20231 yr by Tarax Club

Flag or Bust. 
 

Just Do It

Prelim is a pass mark,

They are difficult to win

Don’t kid yourself that a lot of luck isn’t needed, you make a lot of your own luck, but get to the prelim healthy and take it from there 

Not a few just wishing for just one finals win. I get the lower expectations but the reality is we only just loss both finals this year. Plus not  losing Gus and Milk we probably would have beaten pies.

Nothing but a flag next year will suffice for me. 

My feeling is we'll drop off and finish 5-8. Hope I'm wrong

Not sure it makes sense for 3 teams to have "Win the flag" as a pass mark. What kind of grading system is that where only 1/3 of the graded teams can actually pass? 

Lost both finals by single digits. We were a bees [censored] away from a grand final and premiership. If we had a better run with injury in our forward half at the tail end of the year we would've won the premiership with little resistance. It's why 2023 hurts so much. Alongside the Bulldogs in 2016, Collingwood are the weakest premier of the century so far. They won their 3 finals by a cumulative margin of 12 points. Fully fit, we account for them comfortably and so do a few other teams.

Next year is flag or bust.

If we bail out of finals in straight sets again, or worse, then it's time for drastic action like sacking Goodwin or some seriously strong trading. This window won't stay open forever and we need to make the most of it now. We've realistically got 1-2 years strong years left before Gawn and May are out of contract and likely retiring or declining sharply. Make it count.

1 hour ago, Lord Travis said:

Lost both finals by single digits. We were a bees [censored] away from a grand final and premiership. If we had a better run with injury in our forward half at the tail end of the year we would've won the premiership with little resistance. It's why 2023 hurts so much. Alongside the Bulldogs in 2016, Collingwood are the weakest premier of the century so far. They won their 3 finals by a cumulative margin of 12 points. Fully fit, we account for them comfortably and so do a few other teams.

Next year is flag or bust.

If we bail out of finals in straight sets again, or worse, then it's time for drastic action like sacking Goodwin or some seriously strong trading. This window won't stay open forever and we need to make the most of it now. We've realistically got 1-2 years strong years left before Gawn and May are out of contract and likely retiring or declining sharply. Make it count.

Good summary to read.

Does the weakest premier equate to a team that are the masters in winning the close ones?

Since round 1 2022, they're 13-3 in games decided by 6 points or less, while we're 5-4 in the same period. That close winning habit paid massive dividends for them this September.

Until they lose that ability, they'll likely win next year's flag too, unless their group of 30+ year olds fall off the cliff.

They also have blokes like Sidebottom, De Goey and Crisp that nail 55 metre goals from the set shot and on the run in high pressure moments, while our leaders such as Trac and Gawn spray them all over the place.

I don't buy into the notion that we're better than Collingwood until we start beating them on a consistent basis.

 

Edited October 27, 20231 yr by Bring-Back-Powell

18 hours ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Good summary to read.

Does the weakest premier equate to a team that are the masters in winning the close ones?

Since round 1 2022, they're 13-3 in games decided by 6 points or less, while we're 5-4 in the same period. That close winning habit paid massive dividends for them this September.

Until they lose that ability, they'll likely win next year's flag too, unless their group of 30+ year olds fall off the cliff.

They also have blokes like Sidebottom, De Goey and Crisp that nail 55 metre goals from the set shot and on the run in high pressure moments, while our leaders such as Trac and Gawn spray them all over the place.

I don't buy into the notion that we're better than Collingwood until we start beating them on a consistent basis.

 

Sidebottom "in"  ...Dees probably win the flag.

Players like him are gold,