On 12/10/2023 at 01:27, rpfc said:

Perhaps. But it seems to me that he wants to be a forward and we swung him around a bit.

His value will only go up ASSUMING he is healthy.

Seems to me that he will stay and try to win a flag, but is going home regardless in 2 years. Doesn't sound great.

We better hope we get the value for him that's on the table now...

We have two years to go. No need to rush these things.

Hope we can get him on the park.

  On 12/10/2023 at 01:40, Gawndy the Great said:

We have two years to go. No need to rush these things.

Exactly right.

Two years is a long time when you are 23. A lot can change.

Ok, so staying for this year and leaving at the end of the season... Good to have clarity.  Plenty of time to organise deals in the meantime with transparency.

He better not say he misses his family though - that's the sort of talk that gets you ostracized, by wankers... <----- cannot believe that word was not moderated! Huzzah!

Edited October 12, 20231 yr by Engorged Onion

Let’s hope that Foot heals up for next Season 

 

  On 12/10/2023 at 01:22, Mickey said:

Won't consider offer of extension is concerning though.

Could mean that he plans to leave at the end of 2025.

But it could also mean he's backing himself in to have a big year in 2024 (eg playing forward every week and hopefully injury free) to command a bigger contract.

  On 12/10/2023 at 02:01, deelusions from afar said:

Could mean that he plans to leave at the end of 2025.

But it could also mean he's backing himself in to have a big year in 2024 (eg playing forward every week and hopefully injury free) to command a bigger contract.

Perhaps he is also hoping his partner will relocate to Melbourne.

Honestly the way this world is heading, we might not have to worry about much in 2025.

Let's focus on getting through 2023 first.

He'll go at the end of 2024.  No way they wait until he's out of contract.  Let's hope he has a big 2024 and increases his value.

  On 12/10/2023 at 01:09, hemingway said:

Sadly contracts have become meaningless. Players can ask for a trade and clubs are prepared to trade players if the price is right. 
Yeah I am old fashioned and at heart a loyalist. The wheeling and dealing is eating away at the fabric of the game. It’s been part of the game for a long time but the creep towards an NFL or European league soccer scenario seems to gather pace each year. I accept this is the modern game yet I find it dispiriting and hollow. The players are like prostitutes and the clubs like pimps. Every time I hear of losing a player to another club as a result of a trade, I feel disappointed, sometimes sad, and a little hollow inside. For me, it’s the ugly side of the professional, business, money driven direction of footy. There are also so many leaches that benefit from this money ball circus. The AFL itself, the footy media some of whom are below contempt, player agents and managers etc etc. So many people seeking their pound of flesh. Despite the sell out during the finals and granny, and all the self promotion and acclimation by the AFL, more and more people are being turned off the game. Supporters still support their side but there is an erosion of the fanatical and passionate loyalties that existed in previous generations. The term “foreign legion” goes back as far as 1933 when the term was used to describe the South Melbourne side. So it’s not new but the extent of trading has grown exponentially. Increasingly, contracts are broken or renegotiated if a player or a club decide on a move. 
Do we accept this as part of the modern game, the world of professional sport and “entertainment” or should there be some attempt to reign in the trading circus with financial penalties from breaching a contract as there is in some many other spheres of life ?

Sadly, attitudes have changed. One of the most sickening aspect is the way so called supporters literally salivate at the prospect of pinching a top player from another club or when a player leaves to go to another club the player becomes a source of ridicule and criticism. The vice captain of the Pies or a Premiership player with the  Demons are criticised for their skills or lack of them. 
The whole show is a reflection of the disease so prevalent in the imploding capitalist society where values and standards are replaced by greed and self interest. 

The newer generations don't understand the concept of loyalty, honesty and hard work.

They only understand the Tik Tok and Instagram "clout", whatever that means.

  On 12/10/2023 at 00:37, Katrina Dee Fan said:

Adelaide continually going after Petty to me is reminiscent of the naughty kid in the supermarket begging his mum to buy him a packet of M&Ms long after she said no.  It's embarrassing to see.

Meanwhile them thinking Petty is comparable to McAdam is even more embarrassing.  Why would Melbourne trade a Jaguar for a Toyota?

See what I did there? 

Nothing wrong with a Toyota

Fogarty & pick 10 will do

  On 12/10/2023 at 02:08, ElDiablo14 said:

The newer generations don't understand the concept of loyalty, honesty and hard work.

They only understand the Tik Tok and Instagram "clout", whatever that means.

You're joking, right?

Or is this Poe's law in full action?

  On 12/10/2023 at 02:00, Sir Why You Little said:

Let’s hope that Foot heals up for next Season 

 

That's my biggest concern for next season with him, not this crows BS. 

  On 12/10/2023 at 02:12, Little Goffy said:

You're joking, right?

Or is this Poe's law in full action?

I am not trying to point fingers towards any particular individual, I just express my perception of the society as a whole.

At least when it comes to professional sport, you can see how it has evolved... NBA in the super team era, ditto in soccer with the state sponsored teams (Petro dollars).

 

  On 12/10/2023 at 01:22, Mickey said:

Won't consider offer of extension is concerning though.

True, but hopefully by then we have won 1 or 2 more premierships, and in the intervening period have resolved the issue of finding 1 or 2 more KPFs (and replace/plan to replace May/Gawn as the case may be). 

Then he can go back to SA (can't stop em going home) a triple premiership medal winner. Not bad!

  On 11/10/2023 at 19:44, dazzledavey36 said:

He's obviously having serious consideration of going home. There's enough smoke there.

Or he has a very good manager, that knows how to drive up the price of his player.

I reckon he is going to continue doing the right thing by us and himself and families

Perhaps wishful thinking but it feels like the leadership are getting their ducks in a row for a serious tilt in 2024 fueled by the disappointments of 22 and 23. 

Good leadership and loyalty from Petty to opt in. 

Suspect Goodwin has sold the permanent forward role, (getting him out of the shadows of Lever and May) and in a section of the ground screaming for some leadership (particularly without Jake M). 

 

No Ralphy. The best deal for Melbourne is to extend his contract next year.

How bad is his foot injury? Is he likely to start the season, does anyone know?

BTW, great management from the club to put this to bed early and not let it linger any longer than necessary. Not happening this year and let it be beyond that for now. 

Immediate action, restore focus on our targets for the remainder of this trade period. 

  On 12/10/2023 at 02:08, ElDiablo14 said:

The newer generations don't understand the concept of loyalty, honesty and hard work.

They only understand the Tik Tok and Instagram "clout", whatever that means.

Loyalty lol. If his injury doesn't heal and he has a bad season next year, you'll be one of the first trying to kick him out the door.

I can’t believe we Will possibly only have one more year of Petts as after it’s looked liked he is the guy we really need at Full forward and now looking like losing him in his prime.

  On 12/10/2023 at 01:22, Mickey said:

Won't consider offer of extension is concerning though.

Hopefully it just means no extension now, not no extension full stop.

But if he wants to go end of next season, at this stage you'll potentially have Ugle-Hagan, King, Hogan, McDonald, Cadman out of contract about that time.