Jump to content

Yze replacement


RedFox

Recommended Posts

We've just lost our senior head of strategy on game day & midfield coach. A big blow given we've hardly set foot outside the top 4 in three seasons. Who are the leading contenders to fill this void? Ideas floated have been a more offensively minded thinker, the likes of Don Pyke or Blake Caracella. Alternatively, do we stick with what we know and go for a more defensively minded thinker?

Do we look at someone tried and tested, or give the opportunity for a recent retiree to cut their teeth? Yze's are big shoes to fill and the decision will surely shape our fortunes for the next period of time. Whoever steps in will have a A grade midfield to work with, it will be a highly sought after role in my opinion. Thoughts?

  • Like 1
  • Thanks 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

8 minutes ago, RedFox said:

We've just lost our senior head of strategy on game day & midfield coach. A big blow given we've hardly set foot outside the top 4 in three seasons. Who are the leading contenders to fill this void? Ideas floated have been a more offensively minded thinker, the likes of Don Pyke or Blake Caracella. Alternatively, do we stick with what we know and go for a more defensively minded thinker?

Do we look at someone tried and tested, or give the opportunity for a recent retiree to cut their teeth? Yze's are big shoes to fill and the decision will surely shape our fortunes for the next period of time. Whoever steps in will have a A grade midfield to work with, it will be a highly sought after role in my opinion. Thoughts?

In my opinion this isn't a role to cut your teeth on. Almost like the head coaching job you would need at least 2 years experience in the system for roles like this these days. 

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

9 minutes ago, RedFox said:

We've just lost our senior head of strategy on game day & midfield coach. A big blow given we've hardly set foot outside the top 4 in three seasons. Who are the leading contenders to fill this void? Ideas floated have been a more offensively minded thinker, the likes of Don Pyke or Blake Caracella. Alternatively, do we stick with what we know and go for a more defensively minded thinker?

Do we look at someone tried and tested, or give the opportunity for a recent retiree to cut their teeth? Yze's are big shoes to fill and the decision will surely shape our fortunes for the next period of time. Whoever steps in will have a A grade midfield to work with, it will be a highly sought after role in my opinion. Thoughts?

Yze has been branded the ball movement coach. We haven't ranked very highly in this area for a while so its hard to get a read on whether this coaching vs player execution. 

Our stoppage work hasnt fared well either. Someone who can fundamentally change the way we transition / move the ball within the confines of the defense and contest mantra. 

Dew is a question mark i think. I think he was never able to get a hold of the players at Gold Coast due to lack of maturity and culture. Our team would be different and will be eager to learn and execute. Other question is whether Dew even has a desire to come back to the assistant world or just leave footy all together - it would be pretty humbling and you'd need to put your ego to the side. 

  • Like 6
Link to comment
Share on other sites

20 minutes ago, Engorged Onion said:

How is Don Pyke relevant these days? 

Been an assistant to Longmire for a couple of years.  was considered a chance for the Collingwood job before McRae.  More likely for the CEO job at West Coast to replace Trevor Nisbett.

  • Like 4
  • Thanks 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites


Interesting that old mate Craig Jennings is offence coach for GWS. No chance he comes back to us.

Ben Hart is GWS' midfield coach and Leppitsch is obviously at Collingwood as Head of Strategy. 

Scott Burns has done well for Adelaide's defence, but is a South Aussie and also senior assistant at Adelaide, so unlikely.

Cameron Bruce is midfield and stoppage coach at Brisbane.

Tim Clarke and Aaron Greaves (coaching and innovation manager) have done well at Carlton.

And then there's Stuart Dew.

Bruce has had an interesting coaching career trajectory. Obviously, started at Hawthorn in 2013 and then went to Carlton with Bolton in 2017, and was sacked along with Bolton in 2021. He immediately got the job of midfield coach at Brisbane under Fagan (another Hawthorn connection of course) and has overseen their midfield the last two years.

Be fascinating to see who we go for and whether their role is two pronged, midfield and ball movement.

Edited by Binmans PA
  • Like 1
  • Thanks 6
Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, RedFox said:

We've just lost our senior head of strategy on game day & midfield coach. A big blow given we've hardly set foot outside the top 4 in three seasons. Who are the leading contenders to fill this void? Ideas floated have been a more offensively minded thinker, the likes of Don Pyke or Blake Caracella. Alternatively, do we stick with what we know and go for a more defensively minded thinker?

Would love Pyke.  Swans would be very unhappy to see him go.

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

31 minutes ago, MadAsHell said:

Either if Stuart Dew or Brett Ratten would both be ideal IMO. 

Not a fan of getting Ratten, although the has been great for footy I am not sure he is the sort of person we need.  Goody coaches from the bench and we need an innovator in the box which I don’t think Ratts is 

  • Like 7
  • Thanks 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

37 minutes ago, Binmans PA said:

Interesting that old mate Craig Jennings is offence coach for GWS. No chance he comes back to us.

Ben Hart is GWS' midfield coach and Leppitsch is obviously at Collingwood as Head of Strategy. 

Scott Burns has done well for Adelaide's defence, but is a South Aussie and also senior assistant at Adelaide, so unlikely.

Cameron Bruce is midfield and stoppage coach at Brisbane.

Tim Clarke and Aaron Greaves (coaching and innovation manager) have done well at Carlton.

And then there's Stuart Dew.

Bruce has had an interesting coaching career trajectory. Obviously, started at Hawthorn in 2013 and then went to Carlton with Bolton in 2017, and was sacked along with Bolton in 2021. He immediately got the job of midfield coach at Brisbane under Fagan (another Hawthorn connection of course) and has overseen their midfield the last two years.

Be fascinating to see who we go for and whether their role is two pronged, midfield and ball movement.

Life would have been very different if we got Leppitsch when he was available

  • Like 2
  • Thanks 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Joel Selwood would be fantastic. 

Im not a fan of Stewy Dew as a coach. Politically correct people might not like it being said, but a coach presenting themselves to young footballers in a very overweight (practically obese) physical condition is not a good look. How can others take your messages about discipline and getting the best out of yourself as an athlete, when you yourself are clearly not practicing what you preach? Harsh but unfortunately I think a valid opinion about Dew. 

  • Like 6
  • Facepalm 5
Link to comment
Share on other sites

3 minutes ago, FearTheBeard said:

My top picks would be (and we need to move Stafford on as well):

  • Stewart Dew
  • Brenton Sanderson
  • Joel Selwood (development coach)
  • Todd Goldstein (Bring in as second ruck and move to ruck coach in 2025)
  • Leppitsch (but wishful thinking)
  • Ratten

McQualter and Selwood would be great additions 

  • Like 4
Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, Wrecker46 said:

From all reports Burgess was heavily involved in our gameday strategy before he left as well.

We've lost alot of IP with both of them leaving.

Whoever gets the role will need to be innovative like Burgess and Yze.

Yes, someone who will challenge the current mindset/thinks outside of the box

  • Like 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites


23 minutes ago, BaliDemon said:

Joel Selwood would be fantastic. 

Im not a fan of Stewy Dew as a coach. Politically correct people might not like it being said, but a coach presenting themselves to young footballers in a very overweight (practically obese) physical condition is not a good look. How can others take your messages about discipline and getting the best out of yourself as an athlete, when you yourself are clearly not practicing what you preach? Harsh but unfortunately I think a valid opinion about Dew. 

True , but so many men and women these days are overweight or in USA where theyre flat out humungus obese 101.

Dew could get a job on a cruise ship out of Florida as a fitness instructor.

How doya do it bro?

  • Haha 2
  • Facepalm 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Mark McVeigh - started to get the Giants back on track with Himmelberg back and more expansive game plan. Swans academy and Allies coach now so exposed to a lot of elite juniors 

Stuey Dew - probably prefer him as forwards than mids, don’t like the Suns defensive structures or ball use but their forwards compete hard

McQualter - didn’t love his caretaker stint but would like some Richmond ball movement IP

 

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

48 minutes ago, Dingo said:

Do you reckon that the coaches mentioned regard us as a “destination club” ?

Not sure Goody is valued anywhere like a Hardwick or Clarko, but hard to say a coach on the rise shouldn’t attach themselves to the Dees midfield. 

Reckon the Dees forwards are a huge opportunity too for a good coach to come in and fix them up 

  • Like 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Unfortunately, your content contains terms that we do not allow. Please edit your content to remove the highlighted words below.
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
  • Demonland Forums  

  • Match Previews, Reports & Articles  

    HEAVEN OR HELL by The Oracle

    Clashes between Melbourne and St Kilda are often described as battles between the forces of heaven and hell. However, based on recent performances, it’s hard to get excited about the forthcoming match between these two sides. It would be fair to say that, at the moment, both of these teams are in the doldrums. The Demons have become the competition’s slow starters while the Saints are not only slow to begin, they’re not doing much of a job finishing off their games either. About the only th

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons

    THE BLOW by Whispering Jack

    Narrm’s finals prospects took a crushing blow after the team’s insipid performance at Optus Stadium against a confident Waaljit Marawar in the first of its Doug Nicholls Round outings for 2024.  I use the description “crushing blow” advisedly because, although the season is not yet at it’s halfway mark, the Demons have now failed abysmally in two of their games against teams currently occupying bottom eight places on the ladder.  The manner in which these losing games were played out w

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Reports 6

    HALF FULL by KC from Casey

    It was a case of the Casey Demons going into a game with a glass half full in their match up against the Brisbane Lions at Casey Fields on Saturday. As the list of injured and unavailable AFL and VFL listed players continues to grow and with Melbourne taking all three emergencies to Perth for the weekend on a “just in case” basis, its little brother was always destined to struggle. Casey was left with only eight AFL listed players from who to select their team but only two - an out-of-form

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Casey Articles

    PREGAME: Rd 11 vs St. Kilda

    The Demons return to the MCG to take on the Saints in Round 11 on the back of two straight losses in a row. With Jake Lever out with concussion who comes in and who goes out?

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 358

    PODCAST: Rd 10 vs West Coast

    The Demonland Podcast will air LIVE on Monday, 20th May @ 8:30pm. Join George, Binman & I as we dissect the Demons disaapoiting performance against the Eagles at Optus Stadium in Round 10. You questions and comments are a huge part of our podcast so please post anything you want to ask or say below and we'll give you a shout out on the show. If you would like to leave us a voicemail please call 03 9016 3666 and don't worry no body answers so you don't have to talk to a human.

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 45

    VOTES: Rd 10 vs West Coast

    Last week Captain Max Gawn consolidated his lead over reigning champion Christian Petracca in the Demonland Player of the Year Award. Steven May, Alex Neal-Bullen & Jake Lever make up the Top 5. Your votes for the loss against the Blues. 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 37

    POSTGAME: Rd 10 vs West Coast

    Many warned that this was a danger game and the Demons were totally outclassed all game by a young Eagles team at Optus Stadium in Perth as they were defeated by 35 points.

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 445

    GAMEDAY: Rd 10 vs West Coast

    It's Game Day and the Demons have returned to the site of their drought breaking Premiership to take on the West Coast Eagles in what could very well be a danger game for Narrm at Optus Stadium. A win and a percentage boost will keep the Dees in top four contention whilst a loss will cast doubt on the Dees flag credentials and bring them back to the pack fighting for a spot in the 8 as we fast approach the halfway point of the season.

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 884

    WARNING by William from Waalitj

    As a long term resident of Waalitj Marawar, I am moved to warn my fellow Narrm fans that a  danger game awaits. The locals are no longer the easybeats who stumbled, fumbled and bumbled their way to the good fortune of gathering the number one draft pick and a generational player in Harley Reid last year. They are definitely better than they were then.   Young Harley has already proven his worth with some stellar performances for a first year kid playing among men. He’s taken hangers, k

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Previews 22
  • Tell a friend

    Love Demonland? Tell a friend!

×
×
  • Create New...