20 minutes ago, rjay said:

Rubbish comment mate.

A brilliant coaching performance against the odds tonight.

If it weren't for a few dodgy decisions we had this.

Umm no.

We needed a totally 100 % fit ruck.... if we only had one.. 

We needed to take Max away from all the ILLEGAL  scragging..   We needed to be clever we weren't.  That's down to the Coaches.  Stafford obviously has nfi.  Why does Goody allow that ?? 

We can't kick for [censored]....thats someone's dept. 

There were elements we did better tonight.

But lost at selection...and direction.

 

I will say... the 2 blokes in yellow should be in the club votes for Carlton. 

 

To all the happy clappers...yeah.. Goodwin is a [censored] genius.

Be proud Simon... grasp it...own it...    

OUT IN SETS 2 YEARS RUNNING 

9.17  fmd... 

 

30 minutes ago, rjay said:

Rubbish comment mate.

A brilliant coaching performance against the odds tonight.

If it weren't for a few dodgy decisions we had this.

Agree, picked absolutely the right team. 

Need a big summer of skill work but you can’t drastically improve skills of limited players with no key forwards to influence ball movement.

Healthy forwards and a touch of class will change things. Just a matter of whether we can snag a couple of ready to play forward and mid options, plus develop the likes of Howes, Woey, Laurie, Chandler who can potentially all take us forward.

Thought we got outcoached tonight.

Having Josh Schache as the unused "super-sub" was an utter waste of time!

Simon Goodwin has a lot of "learnings" to do over the off season.

 

7 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

Agree, picked absolutely the right team. 

Need a big summer of skill work but you can’t drastically improve skills of limited players with no key forwards to influence ball movement.

Healthy forwards and a touch of class will change things. Just a matter of whether we can snag a couple of ready to play forward and mid options, plus develop the likes of Howes, Woey, Laurie, Chandler who can potentially all take us forward.

No he didn't 

You're somewhat skewed in your understanding mate.

Thought you knew better. My bad

11 hours ago, adonski said:

Will let you know tonight after two hours of learnings 

learned nuffin

Disciple manifests from the top down. 

He's insane. 

And so am I

He’s insane

I dont really mind Insane or Genius... but he's definitely not the latter.

He's a victim and a slave to his ID

I can understand having your ideas but not seeing their fallibility is another thing.

Our game plan is a bit of a dogs breakfast..

And the coaches need replacing.

31 minutes ago, Supreme_Demon said:

Thought we got outcoached tonight.

Having Josh Schache as the unused "super-sub" was an utter waste of time!

Simon Goodwin has a lot of "learnings" to do over the off season.

 

Totally but will he even revue it !

49 minutes ago, —coach— said:

For my mind we need a shake up of the assistant group again to freshen the messages up. Yze off to Tigers, Stafford out all together and perhaps choccos goal kicking practice can be quietly shut down

Agree with most of that

1 hour ago, ElDiablo14 said:

Lack of composure, lack of skill development. For the most part our players have either regressed or stagnated.

Trac same wobbles from last year, Kozzy gets carried away by the emotions, even Fritsch looked woobly in these finals.

Our most accurate kicks are JVR and Fritta. Need one KPF that can mark our long bombs and kick goals.

That one KPF would be Petty. When he went down, so did our chances this year. 

After tonite I am leading towards the insane category. Then again most geniuses are a stubbie short of a 6 pack as well.

1 hour ago, —coach— said:

For my mind we need a shake up of the assistant group again to freshen the messages up. Yze off to Tigers, Stafford out all together and perhaps choccos goal kicking practice can be quietly shut down

Chocco's certainly not doing the learn to kick footys he's trying to sell any favours.

Staffords gotta go.
He's had years to sort this forward line.
But hasn't done anything.
At all.

 

Edited September 15, 20232 yr by Fork 'em

I feel like there is genius to come yet again from Simon. Don't ask why, just one of those dumb hunches.

A tweak in personel and he'll be the right guy again.

I think Goodwin coached quite well tonight. He got the game on our terms for large parts of each quarter.

The reality is that we didn’t take our chances as a team with the ball in hand. There’s not much a coach can do in that circumstance.

Simon can take accountability for the game style, and movement of the ball to an extent, but those final shots at goal aren’t on him. Max just needed to stand up and kick one of his 2 shots. Fritsch the same.

There needs to be a shake up. Fresh faces with new ideas.

but tonight is on the players. They flunked it big time. 

5 hours ago, ElDiablo14 said:

Unfortunately Weideman lacked the physicality that JVR relishes on the field.

It's the single thing that prevented him to become a top 10 forward in the AFL.

And his accuracy from set shots.

I don’t know about insane, but having an apprenticeship under Thompson and Hird, no doubt helping us

Goodwin won us a premiership after a 57 year drought. The guy deserves a statue.

Truth be told, AFL coaches get great tenure and loyalty. If this was UK or American sport, he’d be walking on eggshells with the list he’s got and the finals output over the past two seasons. Yes, goal kicking yips cost us both games, but management/coaches wear it. EPL team managers get sacked months into the following season after winning silverware.

4 hours ago, DeeSpencer said:

Agree, picked absolutely the right team. 

Need a big summer of skill work but you can’t drastically improve skills of limited players with no key forwards to influence ball movement.

Healthy forwards and a touch of class will change things. Just a matter of whether we can snag a couple of ready to play forward and mid options, plus develop the likes of Howes, Woey, Laurie, Chandler who can potentially all take us forward.

Against the odds? Why was that ? We gave them the game through our poor and undisciplined play. 
Kossie nearlly won us the game but he needs disciplinine.

22 minutes ago, Great Northern Summer said:

Truth be told, AFL coaches get great tenure and loyalty. If this was UK or American sport, he’d be walking on eggshells with the list he’s got and the finals output over the past two seasons. Yes, goal kicking yips cost us both games, but management/coaches wear it. EPL team managers get sacked months into the following season after winning silverware.

 

EPL is a league without any salary cap restrictions funded by blood money. I prefer the AFL way.

Edited September 15, 20232 yr by DutchDemons

16 hours ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

That has to be on the head coach surely. And if it happens in 2 finals in a row, he's going to have to alter and evolve his coaching philosophy over summer, as the club isn't getting it done enough against the big dogs.

 

Agreed Great call.