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27 minutes ago, The heart beats true said:

There’s an angle on The Age website from behind the goals…

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/afl-finals-2023-collingwood-magpies-into-preliminary-final-brayden-maynard-faces-days-of-nerves-over-clash-20230907-p5e2xz.html

Maynard bunches up after the smoother. He just needed to put his hands out and push into a Brayshaw and both would have been fine. You can see he has the time, because Mitchell runs by in the same footage at speed and puts his hands up as the contact happens.

Wow that is damning. Why is maynard “protecting himself” here? The only person that was ever going to get hurt here was Gus. 

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4 minutes ago, Pipefitter said:

Wow that is damning. Why is maynard “protecting himself” here? The only person that was ever going to get hurt here was Gus. 

Looks a lot like the old 'make him earn it' tactic I thought we'd left in the past.

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Besides Viney I didn't see enough Demons players have a crack at Maynard afterwards.

The dog act Maynard did could of killed Bradshaw. Especially due to his history of concussions.

He should of been ironed out. Back in the 1980s or 1990s we would of gotten pay back and knocked him out. Thuggery needs to be responded with thuggery. To not do so makes us look weak.

Anyway, as you can tell, I am still extremely angry!!!! I will be BOOING the scumbag Maynard for the rest of his football career! 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

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Have no problem with Maynard jumping to smother the kick, but to clearly turn and drop the shoulder into Brayshaw's head with eyes on the player is a dog act.

He'll get offered 3, but Gil will drop it to 1 on appeal so he can play in the GF. Appease the big clubs. Nothing is surer, it's the AFL way

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3 minutes ago, Supreme_Demon said:

Besides Viney I didn't see enough Demons players have a crack at Maynard afterwards.

The dog act Maynard did could of killed Bradshaw. Especially due to his history of concussions.

He should of been ironed out. Back in the 1980s or 1990s we would of gotten pay back and knocked him out. Thuggery needs to be responded with thuggery. To not do so makes us look weak.

Anyway, as you can tell, I am still extremely angry!!!! I will be BOOING the scumbag Maynard for the rest of his football career! 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

Anyone have footage of May and Maynard after the siren? May was certainly animated.

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2 minutes ago, Demonised said:

Looks a lot like the old 'make him earn it' tactic I thought we'd left in the past.

Especially given Maynard came out in the press mid week saying how hard they were going to play. He was odds on going to make a big hit statement early in the game

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It's the AFL, won't get anything they'll come up with some grading that he gets off. Prepare to be disappointed.

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2 minutes ago, Stiff Arm said:

And JVR will get one or two

Prepare to be double disappointed 

Probably 1 but Yeah 

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8 minutes ago, Supreme_Demon said:

Besides Viney I didn't see enough Demons players have a crack at Maynard afterwards.

The dog act Maynard did could of killed Bradshaw. Especially due to his history of concussions.

He should of been ironed out. Back in the 1980s or 1990s we would of gotten pay back and knocked him out. Thuggery needs to be responded with thuggery. To not do so makes us look weak.

Anyway, as you can tell, I am still extremely angry!!!! I will be BOOING the scumbag Maynard for the rest of his football career! 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

Hard, you go in throw him to the ground, umpires reverse the kick.  You have to wait, kick the goal then like viney did go at him.  

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'Nothing else he could have done' is rubbish. He had the momentum. He could have turned/spun away instead of toward. He was making a statement.

And, yes, you can turn mid-air.

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Ask anyone trying to defend how Maynard positioned his body to make contact if Maynard would have done exactly the same thing if it had been Nick Daicos there in an intraclub game instead of Angus Brayshaw in a final.  

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Maynard's action was a football act. A 1970's football act. An era when I played. I would do similar actions when I played with the sole purpose of hurting my opponent. 'Make them earn it' was the motto of the era.

It's a shame I carry to this day.

In hindsight, I wish I had been suspended more often to deter what I realised after my playing was in fact, cowardly and dangerous.  I still have moments where I fear there is someone out there living with the consequences of my actions. 

It is 2023. We are far more enlightened.  Maynard HAS to get weeks. Several of them.

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9 hours ago, ElDiablo14 said:

I think even Cox tried to.twist Petraccas ankle during a play where we has laying on the turf and for whatever reason hold Trac's leg and then put his weight on it. Luckily Trac was fine.

Got Oliver in the head with his shoulder in the last qtr as well.  Not to mention his flying knees and legs when contesting centre bounces

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I've been caught in the air plenty of times in sport. If you're going to land on someone and there's a risk of injury, you 'catch' them with your hands as you come into contact to reduce the impact. It's not hard.

Was a footy act until he turned his body when the ball went passed. Then it became careless, high and severe.

Unfortunately, I've had to endure an entire morning of listening to Collingwood supporters aggressively going on and on about how there was NOTHING Maynard could have done to avoid what happened. One even claimed it's not his fault that Brayshaw has concussion history and if it was anyone else they would have just gotten up and played on. Claims that Maynard is the victim here. Hope I get through the day without going Walter Subcek at work.

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12 minutes ago, Stiff Arm said:

Especially given Maynard came out in the press mid week saying how hard they were going to play. He was odds on going to make a big hit statement early in the game

Correct he actually projected this.

An intentional act which he was looking to inact prior to the match and carried it out on game day.

Needs to get 3 to 4 minimum

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It's a very public test case of all the AFL's sanctimonious rhetoric over the past year or so. And the concussion issue isn't going away.  But like a politician, Gil and his accountants will be in comfortable retirement by the time the final verdict on this is handed down.

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Just now, robbiefrom13 said:

It's a very public test case of all the AFL's sanctimonious rhetoric over the past year or so. And the concussion issue isn't going away.  But like a politician, Gil and his accountants will be in comfortable retirement by the time the final verdict on this is handed down.

I think the AFL will orchestrate the following.

Maynard gets 2 weeks (maybe 1or 3). That way the AFL can be seen to be protecting the players from concussion and litigation down the track.

The verdict gets appealed. Maynard plays in the prelim.

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It was the first 5 minutes of a final. In the air Maynard realised the opportunity to drop the shoulder and he took it. Anyone who thinks he had "no choice" doesn't understand football.

I am confident the MRO gives him at least 3, otherwise AFL is duty bound to appeal. 

I like many, cannot stand the pandering to the loudest voice in the media. Just imagine Maynard was Viney and Brayshaw was Pendlebury. Would Collingwood supporters be ringing the radio saying Viney had "no choice"? 

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