Phantom Drafts 2023

[whatwhat say what 19,142]

25 minutes ago, Redleg said:

I don't think we know anything tbh. 

it's a complete guessing game across the board - fans have as much idea as the prognosticators in the media, as evidenced by the constantly moving selection guesses

 

[Pennant St Dee 11,336]

18 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Geez I hope not..

My thoughts are we’d have to get their F2 back. For this deal to happen you’d imagine Hawks have decided on Curtin over Watson and it will happen on the night if North take Duursma after Mckercher 

[old55 21,373]

Where's Cal's phantom?

[adonski 9,173]

2 minutes ago, old55 said:

Where's Cal's phantom?

Dropped at 6pm last year 

[2021 130]

2 minutes ago, old55 said:

Where's Cal's phantom?

Hoping he has some info that we are involved in a trade or two, especially at “6”.

[dino rover 624]

15 hours ago, 58er said:

Colts or maybe SANFL standard comps around Australia. And he is 197cm listed and you don’t believe he is tall enough for a KP defender! How tall do you want? The great Stephan May is only about 193cm and he goes pretty well!! 

Absolutely 

the mere fact that we can contemplate a guy his size playing midfield speaks volumes for his ability 

he picks the ball up better than May and we need a tall defender and successor to May and Petty

disco isn’t it - not big enough 

[dazzledavey36 48,912]

 

[Lord Travis 10,184]

Curtin, Sanders, Watson in that order for pick 6 preferences. Windsor doesn't seem to be pick 6 level IMO. Curtin would be a steal.

Edited November 18, 2023 by Lord Travis

[Mickey 4,179]

4 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

 

Trade up to pick 4? We get Watson, Hawks get Curtain?

[dazzledavey36 48,912]

1 minute ago, Mickey said:

Trade up to pick 4? We get Watson, Hawks get Curtain?

No idea.

One rumour is we want Sanders if we trade up and another says we badly want Watson.

Who's knows.

[Demonsterative 1,978]

4 minutes ago, Mickey said:

Trade up to pick 4? We get Watson, Hawks get Curtain?

If there is a trade for a higher pick we know JT has targeted this player for some time. He is the master of getting his man, or attempting to get his man. Bailey Humphrey was our target last draft and this kid will be a gun. 

[adonski 9,173]

We need to stop [censored] away draft picks

[Jeremy 619]

4 minutes ago, Demonsterative said:

If there is a trade for a higher pick we know JT has targeted this player for some time. He is the master of getting his man, or attempting to get his man. Bailey Humphrey was our target last draft and this kid will be a gun. 

Wish that deal happened 

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Cal’s Phantom Draft 2023

Melbourne selects ~

7. Caleb Windsor

POS: Midfielder
Ht 185cm, Wt 74kg, DOB 9/6/05
From Eastern Ranges/Vic Metro

The winger with all the right stuff. If things go a certain way, Windsor comes into contention for the Demons' first pick. The elite runner and midfielder has real pop to his game – and it's the upside that is exciting for recruiters as well. He has speed – he ran 2.92 seconds in the 20-metre sprint – and can shift forward and hit the scoreboard from the wing. Has weapons with his run and carry and an elite pace and endurance mix that brings him into contention early. 

If not him? The Demons have been in the thick of the action. If Nick Watson gets this far, he is favourite to be picked. Zane Duursma would also be snapped up. Under this scenario the question would be on the Dees grabbing Dan Curtin or letting him pass and also what the Dees would do if West Coast offered their future first-round pick? It seems more likely they will hold their own pick, but they have continued attempts to get up the board, including to Hawthorn's No.4 pick using a future first-round selection. 

13. Koltyn Tholstrup

POS: Forward/midfielder
Ht 186cm, Wt 86kg, DOB 28/6/05
From Subiaco/Western Australia

The Demons have shown recent interest in Tholstrup among a number of clubs to do late interviews with the powerful forward. His explosive streak in the front half adds some presence and in the future he will likely go through the midfield more as well. Tholstrup played most of the season with Subiaco's senior side so is ready for the step up at that level and he is prepared for a move away from Western Australia. Tholstrup was invited to attend draft night, showing the early interest in him, but he has chosen to watch from Perth with more family and friends. 

If not him? The Demons have been active in trying to push up the order so may still move position. Caleb Windsor is a chance to get through to this pick in an alternate draft order, while Connor O'Sullivan and Nate Caddy would also be looked at very closely if they managed to sneak through. 

Cal Twomey's 2023 Phantom Draft: Top 30, late picks, whispers

[spirit of norm smith 13,046]

Cal echoes others. No surprises  

7.  Caleb Windsor 

POS: Midfielder
Ht 185cm, Wt 74kg, DOB 9/6/05
From Eastern Ranges/Vic Metro

The winger with all the right stuff. If things go a certain way, Windsor comes into contention for the Demons' first pick. The elite runner and midfielder has real pop to his game – and it's the upside that is exciting for recruiters as well. He has speed – he ran 2.92 seconds in the 20-metre sprint – and can shift forward and hit the scoreboard from the wing. Has weapons with his run and carry and an elite pace and endurance mix that brings him into contention early. 

If not him? The Demons have been in the thick of the action. If Nick Watson gets this far, he is favourite to be picked. Zane Duursma would also be snapped up. Under this scenario the question would be on the Dees grabbing Dan Curtin or letting him pass and also what the Dees would do if West Coast offered their future first-round pick? It seems more likely they will hold their own pick, but they have continued attempts to get up the board, including to Hawthorn's No.4 pick using a future first-round selection. 

13. Koltyn Tholstrup

POS: Forward/midfielder
Ht 186cm, Wt 86kg, DOB 28/6/05
From Subiaco/Western Australia

The Demons have shown recent interest in Tholstrup among a number of clubs to do late interviews with the powerful forward. His explosive streak in the front half adds some presence and in the future he will likely go through the midfield more as well. Tholstrup played most of the season with Subiaco's senior side so is ready for the step up at that level and he is prepared for a move away from Western Australia. Tholstrup was invited to attend draft night, showing the early interest in him, but he has chosen to watch from Perth with more family and friends. 

If not him? The Demons have been active in trying to push up the order so may still move position. Caleb Windsor is a chance to get through to this pick in an alternate draft order, while Connor O'Sullivan and Nate Caddy would also be looked at very closely if they managed to sneak through. 

[Demonsterative 1,978]

28 minutes ago, 2021 said:

Cal’s Phantom Draft 2023

Melbourne selects ~

7. Caleb Windsor

POS: Forward/midfielder
Ht 186cm, Wt 86kg, DOB 28/6/05
From Subiaco/Western Australia

The Demons have shown recent interest in Tholstrup among a number of clubs to do late interviews with the powerful forward. His explosive streak in the front half (https://www.afl.com.au/news/1059937/pastures-new-farming-on-hold-as-wa-prospect-koltyn-tholstrup-looks-to-make-his-mark) adds some presence and in the future he will likely go through the midfield more as well. Tholstrup played most of the season with Subiaco's senior side so is ready for the step up at that level and he is prepared for a move away from Western Australia. Tholstrup was invited to attend draft night, showing the early interest in him, but he has chosen to watch from Perth with more family and friends. 

If not him? The Demons have been active in trying to push up the order so may still move position. Caleb Windsor is a chance to get through to this pick in an alternate draft order, while Connor O'Sullivan and Nate Caddy would also be looked at very closely if they managed to sneak through. 

13. Koltyn Tholstrup

POS: Forward/midfielder
Ht 186cm, Wt 86kg, DOB 28/6/05
From Subiaco/Western Australia

The Demons have shown recent interest in Tholstrup among a number of clubs to do late interviews with the powerful forward. His explosive streak in the front half adds some presence and in the future he will likely go through the midfield more as well. Tholstrup played most of the season with Subiaco's senior side so is ready for the step up at that level and he is prepared for a move away from Western Australia. Tholstrup was invited to attend draft night, showing the early interest in him, but he has chosen to watch from Perth with more family and friends. 

If not him? The Demons have been active in trying to push up the order so may still move position. Caleb Windsor is a chance to get through to this pick in an alternate draft order, while Connor O'Sullivan and Nate Caddy would also be looked at very closely if they managed to sneak through. 

Cal Twomey's 2023 Phantom Draft: Top 30, late picks, whispers

I’m starting to think we will swap picks with the Dawks. They need as many high picks as they can get in their rebuild and Curtain would be a target given their need for talls more than a small forward. Why draft Ginnavan and grab Watson? 

Pick 6 and 11 for pick 4. 

or 

Pick 6 and a future 1st for pick 4

This may tempt WC thinking they can grab Reid and Curtain trading with GWS.  It will be an interesting night and Twomey has put in variables in his write up. Maybe he ain’t so confident with his past Phantoms with this year… 

[Demonland 65,652]

 

[Nascent 7,339]

2 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Do we know for a fact that we simply won't be using pick 42?

 "If they don't, they could just use those picks or perhaps a third selection later, however pick 42 is set to be sent to St Kilda in a likely deal for a future third-round selection."

[Demonsterative 1,978]

3 minutes ago, Nascent said:

 "If they don't, they could just use those picks or perhaps a third selection later, however pick 42 is set to be sent to St Kilda in a likely deal for a future third-round selection."

I don’t see the point in this unless the club has plans for a trade next year. Would this include a swap of picks with WC for a future first and this years pick 6? 

[2021 130]

8 minutes ago, Demonsterative said:

I’m starting to think we will swap picks with the Dawks. They need as many high picks as they can get in their rebuild and Curtain would be a target given their need for talls more than a small forward. Why draft Ginnavan and grab Watson? 
 

Pick 6 and 11 for pick 4. 

or 

Pick 6 and a future 1st for pick 4. 
 

This may tempt WC thinking they can grab Reid and Curtain trading with GWS.  It will be an interesting night and Twomey has put in variables in his write up. Maybe he ain’t so confident with his past Phantoms with this year… 

It says in Cal’s Phantom that we have already offered the Hawks 6 and our F1 for 4. Was thinking the same as you, if they say no, offer 6 & 11, and take Watson.

[adonski 9,173]

Just now, 2021 said:

It says in Cal’s Phantom that we have already offered the Hawks 6 and our F1 for 4. Was thinking the same as you, if they say no, offer 6 & 11, and take Watson.

6 & 11 for Watto would get Lamb shot at sunrise 

[Nascent 7,339]

4 minutes ago, Demonsterative said:

I don’t see the point in this unless the club has plans for a trade next year. Would this include a swap of picks with WC for a future first and this years pick 6? 

My read is that it's just to have more draft capital next year for a pick we likely won't use this year.

Adelaide, Brisbane and Carlton all have f/s or academy prospects that they'll want to stockpile picks for. Gives us more room to trade up next year. Probably other clubs too.

Edited November 18, 2023 by Nascent

[2021 130]

3 minutes ago, adonski said:

6 & 11 for Watto would get Lamb shot at sunrise 

We already offered 6 & F1 for 4..

[Jeremy 619]

2 minutes ago, 2021 said:

We already offered 6 & F1 for 4..

Hasn’t been rejected or accepted yet 

[Redleg 37,771]

55 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

No idea.

One rumour is we want Sanders if we trade up and another says we badly want Watson.

Who's knows.

I thought we wanted Duursma and Caddy and Sullivan and Curtin and Windsor and of course Reid.