PREGAME: Rd 23 vs Hawthorn

[Jaded No More 59,753]

1 hour ago, David-Demon said:

watch this space.

For what?

[Nicko 1,285]

2 hours ago, Binmans PA said:

Max behind the ball as interceptor

I want to see this 

[dazzledavey36 49,736]

6 hours ago, Demonstone said:

I never played footy at a senior level, but I know you do @dazzledavey36.

Do players really try harder just because it's a teammates' milestone game or if they're retiring (ref. Franklin)?

There is an element where from a teammate perspective you definitely take in the significance of what a player's milestone especially when it's your skipper. 

You certainly build yourself up for it mentally know deep down you want to try that extra harder. Though when you're out there playing in the heat of the moment realistically you're pretty much treating it as another game.

It's different with the buddy scenario because that's a send off game for a highly influential player of the game and then there's finals aspiration at stakes with the Swans. They'll 100% be going in mentally knowing that finals will be their top priority but also wanting to send buddy off on a good note and celebrate his career in fashion.

[Jaded No More 59,753]

51 minutes ago, Nicko said:

I want to see this 

I don't think we will play Gawn as an interceptor down back until finals. 

We did too much last year and it was worked out and planned for by opposition sides. 

Much like Kosi playing on ball, I reckon we will only see glimpses of it until September. Can't let all the rabbits out now.

[Roost it far 6,401]

Did I mention just how scared I am of this week’s game. Usually I get a vibe from within that’s accurate to about 85%, I’ve got nothing on this except fear and loathing 

[jnrmac 19,481]

The hawks will chip and switch.  Can't guard grass. Must pressure ball carrier

[DubDee 21,892]

Never forget the painful years.  This result killed our season at round 1. 2008.  I hope we smash them

Hawthorn	5.5	7.10	15.12	23.16.154
Melbourne	1.1	1.5	2.10	6.14.50

[Diamond Tim 291]

14 minutes ago, DubDee said:

Never forget the painful years.  This result killed our season at round 1. 2008.  I hope we smash them

Hawthorn	5.5	7.10	15.12	23.16.154
Melbourne	1.1	1.5	2.10	6.14.50

I was there for that one - it was anyone's game until 6 minutes into the first quarter......

Edited August 16, 2023 by Diamond Tim

[buck_nekkid 5,625]

I think they will switch and try to spread us and get chaotic entries. setup from the midfield and allow the move to the back flank then ‘bam’ no corridor or target wing or forward. Take Sicily out, don’t let the fridge magnet cause any bother and shut down jai newcomb.

better in the middle - maybe grundy in ruck and max forward? (70/30).  More kossie rotation through there with Trac forward more.

jj out, Melk in, Spargo in.

 

if we ain’t got this, we got nothing….

[layzie 30,233]

5 hours ago, DubDee said:

Never forget the painful years.  This result killed our season at round 1. 2008.  I hope we smash them

Hawthorn	5.5	7.10	15.12	23.16.154
Melbourne	1.1	1.5	2.10	6.14.50

What a day.

Isaac Weetra starred.

[Bring-Back-Powell 13,599]

4 minutes ago, layzie said:

What a day.

Isaac Weetra starred.

You know it was going to be one of those years where we could manage a whopping 2 goals to 3 qtr time on a beautiful mid 20’s day.

[binman 39,462]

7 hours ago, jnrmac said:

The hawks will chip and switch.  Can't guard grass. Must pressure ball carrier

Agree.

I worry we will struggle a bit to run out the game given how brutal last week's game was.

So I think the first quarter will be critical.

I hope they come out hard, put huge pressure on, smash them in tbe contest and create scores from turnover.

And be aggressive. Don't give them a sniff and set up a match winning lead early. Then maintain it.

[whatwhat say what 20,291]

7 minutes ago, binman said:

Agree.

I worry we will struggle a bit to run out the game given how brutal last week's game was.

So I think the first quarter will be critical.

I hope they come out hard, put huge pressure on, smash them in tbe contest and create scores from turnover.

And be aggressive. Don't give them a sniff and set up a match winning lead early. Then maintain it.

this is my fear too

if our start is slow i can see it turning into an absolute dogfight in which we're struggling to curtail their shortball game 

[WalkingCivilWar 34,747]

16 hours ago, Demonstone said:

I never played footy at a senior level, but I know you do @dazzledavey36.

Do players really try harder just because it's a teammates' milestone game or if they're retiring (ref. Franklin)?

 

I think the notion of players trying harder just because it’s their teammate’s milestone game is silly. They should be trying their damndest regardless. I also don’t like when a team is told to “Do it for…” an example being the first match after Jimmy passed when everyone was telling the boys to win the match for him. I understand it’s used as a way to spur the team on, but it also puts undue pressure on them.

Oh and DS, if it was anyone other than you I’d ignore it, but because it’s you ima go ahead and point it out… your apostrophe is in the wrong place (above). 😝

You’re welcome, every poster who’s ever been corrected by DS. 

[David-Demon 514]

15 hours ago, Jaded No More said:

What for? And who for?

He is a poor user, slow, and can only play one very specific role.

watch this space, just my view that I am entitled to have.

[Roost it far 6,401]

Just win,  1 point or 40, I don’t care

[Jaded No More 59,753]

6 hours ago, David-Demon said:

watch this space, just my view that I am entitled to have.

Never said otherwise. Just wondering if you had any inside info since you keep saying watch this space 😂
 

You also never said who you think Dunstan should replace in the team. 

Edited August 16, 2023 by Jaded No More

[DubDee 21,892]

7 hours ago, David-Demon said:

watch this space, just my view that I am entitled to have.

unless Viney is carrying an injury and needs a week off, Dunstan has little chance

and even then....

in the meantime, we'll keep watching that space of yours

[Macca 16,174]

Whichever team we pick, this is a must win.  We need to start well

The Hawks are playing well right now and now that they've got pick 3 in the draft stitched up, they will be all out to knock us off

In fact, they'll take great pleasure in disrupting our premiership chances.  That's the Aussie rules way ... teams enjoy playing spoiler

Any sort of win will do to nail down a top 4 spot

[Pipefitter 2,082]

Is it too much to ask for this team to be switched on in the 1st quarter for once?

[Murph1524 52]

I do not see how we can keep Grundy in the side this week that would be a mistake. I think Tomlinson in to push Smith forward while Hibberd has another week to recoup as the sub may be our best option.

People calling for JJ out I’m not sure who his replacement is. Dunstan, Harmes and Woey being the options I imagine. Not a fan of any of them unfortunately. Jim you’re a lucky lad once again

[jumbo returns 6,618]

24 minutes ago, Pipefitter said:

Is it too much to ask for this team to be switched on in the 1st quarter for once?

And 4th Q too?

[Deeoldfart 7,839]

32 minutes ago, Murph1524 said:

………………………
People calling for JJ out I’m not sure who his replacement is. Dunstan, Harmes and Woey being the options I imagine. Not a fan of any of them unfortunately. Jim you’re a lucky lad once again

Spargo.  We need him in, and he was very good for Casey on the weekend.

[SPC 3,017]

We’ve got this… we will win and win well!!

[layzie 30,233]

15 hours ago, binman said:

Agree.

I worry we will struggle a bit to run out the game given how brutal last week's game was.

So I think the first quarter will be critical.

I hope they come out hard, put huge pressure on, smash them in tbe contest and create scores from turnover.

And be aggressive. Don't give them a sniff and set up a match winning lead early. Then maintain it.

Not to mention the Hawks have some zip through the middle. Must stick tackles.