Yep, have a crack at MG

5 hours ago, Lord Travis said:

Not against the idea as he'd still be a good marking option that generates scoring opportunities. No actual evidence he's looking to move clubs though.
I don't think he's exactly the type of marking forward we need though. We need a King brother/Mckay/Cameron type 200cm target that won't get outmarked and can reliably hit the scoreboard. Ben Brown doesn't have long left and is already struggling. We don't have another one on the list unless god forbid they plan to play Gawn forward close to 100% and hope for the best with his kicking!

Agree. 

The other factor is that MG is a similar size, and possibly role, as JVR.

That said, if he was gettable they'd have to seriously think about it.

I'd rather too many marking forwards than what we had in the back end of this year.

And really good talls of the type you mention are bloody thin on the ground.

Which is why a player like Lobb can command serious coin despite being so inconsistent - though I guess the fact he can ruck adds to his value.

Edited September 30, 20222 yr by binman

The other thing about Georgiades is you'd be paying for his potential more than the level he's at now.

He's got great hands, presents well, but often goes completely missing and can get the yips kicking at goal.

 

5 hours ago, Redleg said:

What, both of them?

why not

play them week on week and see which is the better forward pocket marker

(the joys of a hypothetical)

I do get a bit confused about the obsession with height for KPFs. Georgiades is listed at 192 which is the same as Curnow (who is 3cm shorter than Cripps). 

7 minutes ago, Kit Walker said:

I do get a bit confused about the obsession with height for KPFs. Georgiades is listed at 192 which is the same as Curnow (who is 3cm shorter than Cripps). 

Yep.Three pure goal kickers all at 192cm would do it. 

2 minutes ago, Webber said:

Yep.Three pure goal kickers all at 192cm would do it. 

At least we might be inclined then to stop the left forward pocket bomb as our our only method of scoring. 

We don't need overly tall forwards unless our game plan is to bomb it in. We just don't lead inside the 50 and resort to roosting it into the forward pocket. Instruct our forwards to lead. Our crumbers should be able to lock it in if it's missed from a lead or a big bomb. 

I haven't seen him in too many pack marking situations but he does have great hands. If available we should enquire.

17 hours ago, ElDiablo14 said:

Who would you say is really gettable, this year or next? E.g. Naughton is not

Dunno. Good tall forwards are tough to find

Darling and Kennedy from the Eagles are 1.91m and 1.94m respectively, would be great to see us change up the forward strategy, still have the long-bomb target (McDonald/Brown) but with two lead-up style forwards in Fritsch and Georgiades. This setup would be less predictable and a tough match up for opponents. 

If we had JVR, Georgiades and Fritta we’d have a very dynamic trio. All similar height but each a very different style of player.

Paired with either of BB & T-Mac, that would be a quality setup.

Would also help to keep all of the above honest and put pressure on for game time

With Max and Grundy next year, and TMac and Ben Brown will play a fair amount of footy too, we're well set for the tall target inside 50 who won't be outmarked. Add Fritsch and JVR and we have a full complement of tall forwards over the next two years.

We need to be looking 3 years down the track to the 2025 season. Draft a KPF this year (my intuition is we're trying to move up the order to do so) and position ourselves for a big fish trade, e.g. Naughton, at the end of 2024  by freeing salary cap.

21 hours ago, ElDiablo14 said:

Is he better option than a McKay or B King though?

Could Georgiadis be complementary to the above mentioned (if we can go for either next year)?

But we do need to go for what is available.

2 hours ago, Bers said:

Darling and Kennedy from the Eagles are 1.91m and 1.94m respectively, would be great to see us change up the forward strategy, still have the long-bomb target (McDonald/Brown) but with two lead-up style forwards in Fritsch and Georgiades. This setup would be less predictable and a tough match up for opponents. 

see below

2 hours ago, old55 said:

With Max and Grundy next year, and TMac and Ben Brown will play a fair amount of footy too, we're well set for the tall target inside 50 who won't be outmarked. Add Fritsch and JVR and we have a full complement of tall forwards over the next two years.

We need to be looking 3 years down the track to the 2025 season. Draft a KPF this year (my intuition is we're trying to move up the order to do so) and position ourselves for a big fish trade, e.g. Naughton, at the end of 2024  by freeing salary cap.

BBB is NOT a high pack marking forward and we should realise that by now - he is an excellent LEAD UP marking forward and generally a reliable set shot ....  we just need to change our delivery inside 50 play

20 minutes ago, monoccular said:

But we do need to go for what is available.

see below

BBB is NOT a high pack marking forward and we should realise that by now - he is an excellent LEAD UP marking forward and generally a reliable set shot ....  we just need to change our delivery inside 50 play

You might be waiting a while I think. I doubt we're going to change to attacking through the corridor to an open forward line.  I think we're doubling down on being stoppage based with the acquisition of Grundy.

3 hours ago, old55 said:

With Max and Grundy next year, and TMac and Ben Brown will play a fair amount of footy too, we're well set for the tall target inside 50 who won't be outmarked. Add Fritsch and JVR and we have a full complement of tall forwards over the next two years.

We need to be looking 3 years down the track to the 2025 season. Draft a KPF this year (my intuition is we're trying to move up the order to do so) and position ourselves for a big fish trade, e.g. Naughton, at the end of 2024  by freeing salary cap.

This doesn’t make sense. 2023 and 2024 will potentially be our best chances for flags in the next 5-10 years. The time is now, not 2025!

Also we cant plan on the basis that a) BB + TMac will be consistently fit    and/or     b) that their form warrants them being consistently picked to play. 
 

27 minutes ago, 1964_2 said:

This doesn’t make sense. 2023 and 2024 will potentially be our best chances for flags in the next 5-10 years. The time is now, not 2025!

Also we cant plan on the basis that a) BB + TMac will be consistently fit    and/or     b) that their form warrants them being consistently picked to play. 
 

I agree the time is now and I think with the addition of Grundy, return of TMac and rise of JVR we're OK for tall forward targets over the next two years.

There's no better options currently on the market unless you want to offer McStay 6 years.

Ideally we'll draft a KPF prospect and line up a big FA or trade for 2025 so we can continue the Dynasty through to the end of the decade.

1 minute ago, old55 said:

I agree the time is now and I think with the addition of Grundy, return of TMac and rise of JVR we're OK for tall forward targets over the next two years.

There's no better options currently on the market unless you want to offer McStay 6 years.

Ideally we'll draft a KPF prospect and line up a big FA or trade for 2025 so we can continue the Dynasty through to the end of the decade.

Sorry I mis-understood. Yes, agree with what you are saying. 
 

Moved…

Edited October 1, 20222 yr by hardtack

On 9/30/2022 at 5:03 PM, Diamond_Jim said:

Prefer Naughton but I'd take the King twins

Of the King Twins wouldn't we all agree that their Max is a worse Kick for Goal than Our Max. He needs the BBB run up. 

10 hours ago, old55 said:

With Max and Grundy next year, and TMac and Ben Brown will play a fair amount of footy too, we're well set for the tall target inside 50 who won't be outmarked. Add Fritsch and JVR and we have a full complement of tall forwards over the next two years.

We need to be looking 3 years down the track to the 2025 season. Draft a KPF this year (my intuition is we're trying to move up the order to do so) and position ourselves for a big fish trade, e.g. Naughton, at the end of 2024  by freeing salary cap.

Yes, constructing a forward line with Gawn as FF makes this need for a tall forward mooter by the day. Gawn, Fritsch, TMac, Kozzie, and a mid rotation are locks for the 7 on game day IMO. I honestly don’t know if the ROI is there with available options to upgrade on JVR or Brown - fit next to Gawn the next few years is crucial. If it’s not an amazing forward, it might just clog us up.

And as boring as it sounds - what’s more important is our ball movement and pressure. We might be better off smaller…

Intriguing situation.

14 hours ago, Kit Walker said:

I do get a bit confused about the obsession with height for KPFs. Georgiades is listed at 192 which is the same as Curnow (who is 3cm shorter than Cripps). 

Agree.

It's not the cm size on paper, it's how they play. Curnow's a perfect example. Meanwhile Gawn's a good example in reverse - has all the height in the world, but just isn't a forward.

 

On 10/1/2022 at 9:48 PM, titan_uranus said:

Agree.

It's not the cm size on paper, it's how they play. Curnow's a perfect example. Meanwhile Gawn's a good example in reverse - has all the height in the world, but just isn't a forward.

Yeah ... size isn't everything ...

5 hours ago, Winners at last said:

Yeah ... size isn't everything ...

I remember long long ago some young damsel telling me something like that 🧐