On 29/09/2023 at 11:36, Supreme_Demon said:

I can't see it happening.

How could bloody Geelong afford this??!!

Are they paying players with cash in brown paper bags or buying them farms? 🤔

I've said it before, and I will say it again. Something is rotten at Geelong and in the coming years something will come out about salary rorting. You will not convince me they are not cheating. Eventually ex an player will spill with a grievance.

Edited September 29, 20231 yr by Left Foot Snap
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  On 29/09/2023 at 04:56, BaliDemon said:

Oh I’m sorry I wasn’t aware that all player contracts are unalterable and fully binding and that players are no longer allowed to leave for other clubs mid contract. That’s a new situation in the AFL I wasn’t aware of thanks for the update. 

Who’s the last player who signed a contract and only months later, requested a trade? Serious question, not being facetious. 

  On 29/09/2023 at 11:30, Little Goffy said:

Okay Bali, it's time to pull your head in. Every time anyone disagrees with you you get into the snarky whiny 'ooh, well, aren't you a big boy' talk and it is both bringing down the tone of the forum and crowding the screen space.

About ten years ago Demonland slumped badly because a few people were teeing off at each other constantly and derailing whole threads with their petty snarks. Those of us who have been around would have no interest in seeing that tone creeping back in.

Like you, those people also mixed in valid points of discussion and had interesting things to say, but I can't remember what any of it was because it was drowned out by just this kind of childish thin-skinned snot-flicking.

You're bringing down the vibe.

Is there a way to see a posters name change history?

  On 29/09/2023 at 11:36, Supreme_Demon said:

I can't see it happening.

How could bloody Geelong afford this??!!

Are they paying players with cash in brown paper bags or buying them farms? 🤔

I think Ollie is done anyway. Too many years of bash and crash and finds it hard to stay injury free. 

Could imagine why Port don't want to pay him big bucks any more.

  On 29/09/2023 at 10:45, DubDee said:

any chance you could not overly dominate and make treads unreadable?

sure, make your point, however misguided. You don't have to play the victim and complain if people don't agree

Casboult will be 34 by round 1. A terrible option, we would not even consider

I'm going to go into bat for Bali here. I don't actually hate the Casboult suggestion.

Why? Well yes, he's 34 next year, but we're not necessarily looking for our future ruck prospect. We're looking for decent back up for Max for the next 2 years if required.

Casboult's output the last 2 seasons has been solid up in GC. And while yes he'd well and truly be finished after a maximum of 2 years. In theory in an ideal world one of Verrell or Farris-White would have come on by then. 

Also keep in mind do we really want a genuine ruck (eg Preuss)? If they're not going to play in the seniors every week. Where would Preuss play at Casey while we're also trying to develop Verrell and Farris-White? It's food for thought.

So IMO we need someone who can play somewhere other than ruck while at Casey. But can play ruck if called upon. Tim O'Brien is one of the only other cheap options I see out there at the moment.

Edited September 29, 20231 yr by MadAsHell

  On 29/09/2023 at 12:24, Ethan Tremblay said:

Who’s the last player who signed a contract and only months later, requested a trade? Serious question, not being facetious. 

Dom Tyson is the only one I can think of off the top of my head. Re-signed with the Giants in season before being traded to us. 10 years ago.

  On 29/09/2023 at 12:38, MadAsHell said:

I'm going to go into bat for Bali here. I don't actually hate the Casboult suggestion.

Why? Well yes, he's 34 next year, but we're not necessarily looking for our future ruck prospect. We're looking for decent back up for Max for the next 2 years if required.

Casboult's output the last 2 seasons has been solid up in GC. And while yes he'd well and truly be finished after a maximum of 2 years. In theory in an ideal world one of Verrell or Farris-White would have come on by then. 

Also keep in mind do we really want a genuine ruck (eg Preuss)? If they're not going to play in the seniors every week. Where would Preuss play at Casey while we're also trying to develop Verrell and Farris-White? It's food for thought.

So IMO we need someone who can play somewhere other than ruck while at Casey. But can play ruck if called upon. Tim O'Brien is one of the only other cheap options I see out there at the moment.

cheers mate. appreciate the post

imo he is not a ruck. maybe decent 2nd ruck but certainly no cover for Gawn

if we take a risk on someone for this role i’d go for someone younger

but who knows

  On 29/09/2023 at 10:54, adonski said:

 

unless Wines was injured this year he looked cooked. Port desperately needed leadership in finals and he offered little. wouldn’t be surprised if Port tried to get something for him

With us potentially loosing:

Jordon, Grundy, Hibbard, D. Smith, Dunstan

Potentially:  Harmes, Brown*, Melksham, Tomlinson 

That's at least 5-6 list spots which is a lot, I'd expect us to grab a couple of delisted free agents somewhere.

*I Expect Brown to stay contracted next yr but possibly as a AFLW coach.  If his knee is rooted

Edited September 29, 20231 yr by Travy14

  On 29/09/2023 at 12:18, Left Foot Snap said:

I've said it before, and I will say it again. Something is rotten at Geelong and in the coming years something will come out about salary rorting. You will not convince me they are not cheating. Eventually ex a player will spill with a grievance

 

They give players house and land packages on the surf coast area. Well known. The have a board member who owns the business 

  On 29/09/2023 at 13:16, DubDee said:

unless Wines was injured this year he looked cooked. Port desperately needed leadership in finals and he offered little. wouldn’t be surprised if Port tried to get something for him

Wines was injured for a fair chunk of the pre season. He’s a player who needs a good pre season behind him 

  On 29/09/2023 at 13:26, Kick_It_To_Pickett said:

 

They give players house and land packages on the surf coast area. Well known. The have a board member who owns the business 

Sounds like salary cap rorting to me.

It's outside the box but i'd be using Joel Smith as our second string ruck/forward, his marking around the ground would be a weapon, he gives us another midfielder at ground level and is just tall enough that with his leap he can compete in the ruck 

 

  On 29/09/2023 at 21:17, Dwight Schrute said:

It's outside the box but i'd be using Joel Smith as our second string ruck/forward, his marking around the ground would be a weapon, he gives us another midfielder at ground level and is just tall enough that with his leap he can compete in the ruck 

 

Van Rooyen, Petty and TMac all have the ability to take the ruck minutes when Max is off. But the main issue is finding a decent backup if he gets injured.

I think this will be hard to find because no decent ruckman wants to sit in the VFL. At least using an option like Casboult or Chol in that role means they could also be selected as a ruck/forward. 

  On 29/09/2023 at 22:00, Fat Tony said:

Van Rooyen, Petty and TMac all have the ability to take the ruck minutes when Max is off. But the main issue is finding a decent backup if he gets injured.

I think this will be hard to find because no decent ruckman wants to sit in the VFL. At least using an option like Casboult or Chol in that role means they could also be selected as a ruck/forward. 

No way I would use Petty in the ruck with his foot problem history.

Tom Mac looks cooked.

We shouldn’t be destroying JVR and risking injury, he should concentrate on his forward craft.

Geelong have probably put a down-payment on a nice little Bellarine vinyard for Ollie. Look out for the Wines Wine label

  On 29/09/2023 at 22:11, Redleg said:

No way I would use Petty in the ruck with his foot problem history.

Tom Mac looks cooked.

We shouldn’t be destroying JVR and risking injury, he should concentrate on his forward craft.

These are all good points, which is why I am in favour of us going for a forward/ruck like Chol or Casboult, who could play as second ruck or fill in if Gawn gets injured. 

  On 29/09/2023 at 22:43, Fat Tony said:

These are all good points, which is why I am in favour of us going for a forward/ruck like Chol or Casboult, who could play as second ruck or fill in if Gawn gets injured. 

We will definitely get help for Max, what we don’t know atm is who.

We know it has to be a mature body and a player who is prepared to play 2nd fiddle.

It will be either a ruckman from another club, who might currently be 3rd in line, or a player from a lesser league, who will cope physically.

If it’s someone in their early 20’s, they will have a chance of staying on with Verall and FW, if he is still with us, in years to come.

So the decision is probably a player who will only be around a couple of years and we then draft another young ruckman, or a Matt Flynn type who can play a number of years.

The best ruckman in the GF, is a former Casey player btw.

Edited September 29, 20231 yr by Redleg

  On 29/09/2023 at 10:20, BaliDemon said:

You have quite the wit. You should consider stand up. 

You can't buy me with flattery, $10 though and I'm all yours.

  On 29/09/2023 at 23:03, drysdale demon said:

You can't buy me with flattery, $10 though and I'm all yours.

McInerney?

I was going to start a whole new topic but I'll just post it here.

From most important needs we need to address? What are our key needs to get us over the line for a Premiership/s in the next 2-3 years?

1. Key Power Forward (clunking mark forward) (Trading)

2. Young gun skillful midfielder (Draft) Top pick

3. 2nd Ruck/Forward who can play forward (Trading)

4. Fast Small crumbing forward goalsneak (Draft) 2nd rounder

 

  On 29/09/2023 at 23:19, Roost it far said:

McInerney?

Yep.

This thread should hot up from monday, but it may not be great news for us.

 

  On 30/09/2023 at 00:38, Redleg said:

This thread should hot up from monday, but it may not be great news for us.

 

?

  On 30/09/2023 at 00:38, Redleg said:

This thread should hot up from monday, but it may not be great news for us.

 

Spill....

Don't leave us hanging Redman.