I think the Allen talk was last year or the year before wasn't it?

11 hours ago, Binmans PA said:

But when the modern game's ball movement relies entirely on moving the ball quickly, you need explosive defenders to either cover the zone or an opponent on a lead.

Exactly 

12 hours ago, whatwhat say what said:

oscar allen will be the next skipper at meth coke, i thought?

can't see him going, even for a combined package of 4 and 5

I agree but he is always gonna be linked cus he’s Victorian and at a club not winning for 3-5yrs after already being [censored] for 4

24 minutes ago, Nudge said:

I agree but he is always gonna be linked cus he’s Victorian and at a club not winning for 3-5yrs after already being [censored] for 4

Only one problem with that is that he is West Australian.

1 hour ago, Nudge said:

I agree but he is always gonna be linked cus he’s Victorian and at a club not winning for 3-5yrs after already being [censored] for 4

He’s from the northern suburbs of Perth , played all his junior footy at Whitfords and Sorrento Duncraig, whilst attending St Marks in Hillary’s for his schooling.

His father taught at Ocean Reef High School in the 80s and 90s before venturing into another field.

He is in no way Victorian

1 hour ago, Redleg said:

Only one problem with that is that he is West Australian.

If he identifies as a Victorian and is accepted by us as a Victorian, then that's good enough, right?

13 hours ago, Binmans PA said:

Interesting. I heard from someone at your mob (I think it's your mob anyway), that Grundy was Geelong or Sydney bound,  and Port were out of the picture, but I get that things change.

Things change very quickly when you have Clubs passionately selling their story, however, due to a changing family situation for Brodie, the City of Adelaide is very attractive.

Right now, I'd have Port Adelaide just in front of Sydney because as I stated, Sydney are working very hard at it.

Watch this space on Luke Beveridge.  

11 hours ago, 58er said:

Sorry DD the most important factor (in the next 4/5 matches) in Maxies career is that he has his mind and body clear snd uncluttered around the  playing side of things. That's what Goody has been trying to do all year snd given both champs their opportunities to impress in the ruck and up forward.

It is vitally important that Maxy feels great about himself and if it's at all needed we can call Brody up if the SC snd Coach believe our team will be better or need the pairing in a horses for courses selection option.

We all await the next few weeks with baited breath and huge excitement for the climax in late September and if our 14th Flag is part of that it will be one of our very fine triumphs, if not our finest probably since the 1948 replay which was a bonus in our expectations of those days. 

 

11 hours ago, monoccular said:

"...climax in late September..."

something for us all to look forward to especially if the 1948 replay was our first taste of footy.

A climax in late September is generally good for all parties involved.

15 minutes ago, goodwindees said:

Things change very quickly when you have Clubs passionately selling their story, however, due to a changing family situation for Brodie, the City of Adelaide is very attractive.

Right now, I'd have Port Adelaide just in front of Sydney because as I stated, Sydney are working very hard at it.

Watch this space on Luke Beveridge.  

Any feel for which of Sydney’s targets is most likely?

15 hours ago, Nascent said:

If they trade out pick 4 they will need to make up 2000 odd points to match the bids or go into deficit next year.

Pick 4 is a very valuable asset though so would think they would want a bit more than just points. Future picks might be required as well.

Otherwise they can just use pick 4 to match and save themselves the trouble of trading out for no benefit and gifting a rival a top 5 pick.

GCS total 2023 draft pool is hovering around the 4500 points mark. Rumour has it that at least 2 of the 3 academy players will be top 10 and given the expected order of those, will need at least 3500 for the two expected to go early. The question will be how much contingency are they going to need or are they prepared to go into deficit next year.

Agree as you put it  that Pick 4 is of value but cashing it in for points is really a waste. Put in an enticing offer in front of them and i cant see why they wouldn't trade. If a F1 was part of the deal, then id hold onto Pick 15 and give them what ever else we have in the treasure trove, which would include 2nd and 3rd rounders hopefully for Tommo, Harmes.

On a side note: if Grundy does goto Sydney i would try this potential trade:
Grundy + Pick 15 for Sydney's Pick 9 and 28, which has a points value similar to end of first round 1, which is about right i think. 

So then for GCS Pick 4, you'd give them F1, 23(MFC),28 (Syd), 36(MFC) + one of Tommo/Harmes (~300). Its approx an extra 200-300 points to GCS in 2023 draft plus a F1. Its a huge huge benefit to GCS and probably unbalanced so we may ask for a F2 to come back our way. 

We could then have 4,5,9 in 2023. 

Edited August 25, 20231 yr by Gawndy the Great

2 hours ago, Redleg said:

Only one problem with that is that he is West Australian.

 

1 hour ago, Pennant St Dee said:

He’s from the northern suburbs of Perth , played all his junior footy at Whitfords and Sorrento Duncraig, whilst attending St Marks in Hillary’s for his schooling.

His father taught at Ocean Reef High School in the 80s and 90s before venturing into another field.

He is in no way Victorian

Once again facts get in the way of a good story.

1 hour ago, Gawndy the Great said:

GCS total draft pool is hovering around the 4500 mark. Rumour has it that at least 2 of the 3 academy players will be top 10 and given the expected order of those, will need at least 3500 for the two expected to go early. The question will be how much contingency are they going to need or are they prepared to go into deficit next year.

Agree as you put it  that Pick 4 is of value but cashing it in for points is really a waste. Put in an enticing offer in front of them and i cant see why they wouldn't trade. If a F1 was part of the deal, then id hold onto Pick 15 and give them what ever else we have in the treasure trove, which would include 2nd and 3rd rounders hopefully for Tommo, Harmes.

On a side note: if Grundy does goto Sydney i would try this potential trade:
Grundy + Pick 15 for Sydney's Pick 9 and 28, which has a points value similar to end of first round 1, which is about right i think. 

So then for GCS Pick 4, you'd give them F1, 23(MFC),28 (Syd), 36(MFC) + one of Tommo/Harmes (~300). Its approx an extra 200-300 points to GCS in 2023 draft plus a F1. Its a huge huge benefit to GCS and probably unbalanced so we may ask for a F2 to come back our way. 

We could then have 4,5,9 in 2023. 

I like it.

I haven't kept across all the rule changes but is there still something  in place that removes a clubs ability to stockpile draft picks?

I remember there was a rule that clubs need to have as many list spots open as draft selections or something similar.

For example. This would prevent them from trading pick 4 for 5 picks in the 30's+ if they only have a list spot or 3 players.

Can't remember if this is still a thing but may impact what clubs can offer.

Edited August 25, 20231 yr by Nascent

On 8/23/2023 at 9:23 PM, Demons11 said:

Trac, Clarry, Viney, Brayshaw, Rivers,  Langdon and Reid 🤣.  
 

Parish would not get a look in with what we have and what we have developing underneath. 

Left out Kossie

16 hours ago, Roger Mellie said:

Thanks for the reality check LT!

I assume the AFL media will continue to pump up his tyres with these comments - right up until Free Agency Week/Month:

one of the League's best lockdown and intercept defenders across his 70-game and eight-year North Melbourne career,

so us nuffies (the footy fans) will keep reading what a great player he is and eventually assume he must be a gun and therefore deserving of a Round One compensation pick.

Yep, I have total faith in the AFL system!

Brainwashing at its best, garbage propaganda.

3 hours ago, Gawndy the Great said:

We could then have 4,5,9 in 2023. 

@Gawndy the Great wow that would be Xmas.  Not sure I’d work out but never say never. Tim Lamb would be a magician’s magician to conjure that. 

15 hours ago, monoccular said:

"...climax in late September..."

something for us all to look forward to especially if the 1948 replay was our first taste of footy.

We all look at things differently l suppose, but some people who were around at the time, suggested that the 1939/40/41 run may have been extended if not for the Second World War where we were  well represented.

All in the eye of the beholder.

On 8/20/2023 at 5:31 PM, Jaded No More said:

He moves like he’s 200. No thanks. 

Never been the same since Omac knocked the [censored] out of him Rd 22 2018. 

4 hours ago, Queanbeyan Demon said:

 

A climax in late September is generally good for all parties involved.

Not sure that I can wait that long

5 hours ago, goodwindees said:

...

Love it when one of the anti-GNFs throw us a bone. Kudos as always.

6 hours ago, Gawndy the Great said:

GCS total 2023 draft pool is hovering around the 4500 points mark. Rumour has it that at least 2 of the 3 academy players will be top 10 and given the expected order of those, will need at least 3500 for the two expected to go early. The question will be how much contingency are they going to need or are they prepared to go into deficit next year.

Agree as you put it  that Pick 4 is of value but cashing it in for points is really a waste. Put in an enticing offer in front of them and i cant see why they wouldn't trade. If a F1 was part of the deal, then id hold onto Pick 15 and give them what ever else we have in the treasure trove, which would include 2nd and 3rd rounders hopefully for Tommo, Harmes.

On a side note: if Grundy does goto Sydney i would try this potential trade:
Grundy + Pick 15 for Sydney's Pick 9 and 28, which has a points value similar to end of first round 1, which is about right i think. 

So then for GCS Pick 4, you'd give them F1, 23(MFC),28 (Syd), 36(MFC) + one of Tommo/Harmes (~300). Its approx an extra 200-300 points to GCS in 2023 draft plus a F1. Its a huge huge benefit to GCS and probably unbalanced so we may ask for a F2 to come back our way. 

We could then have 4,5,9 in 2023. 

I don’t think the Suns will struggle to get points for their academy players this year. If Flanders leaves then they would already have enough with their picks below pick 4. Picks 25&30 can be split to gain more points. If they get a late first round pick as part of the deal for pick 4/5 then they can also split that. 

It’s really about how attractive the future pick is to them and why other clubs might be well placed to get a deal done. If they could get a future first rounder from say the dogs it’s probably going to be a better first rounder than ours. 
 

We have a great draft hand and Lamb is brilliant and trading picks so I hope we do get their pick. Even if we don’t end up with their pick we could still get involved in the deal and get another top 10 pick. GWS, Cats, Dogs would all have an interest in trading up. 

7 hours ago, Pennant St Dee said:

He’s from the northern suburbs of Perth , played all his junior footy at Whitfords and Sorrento Duncraig, whilst attending St Marks in Hillary’s for his schooling.

His father taught at Ocean Reef High School in the 80s and 90s before venturing into another field.

He is in no way Victorian

 

Surely all the clubs chasing Ben Mckay would also have Adam Tomlinson on their list. 
 

Goodwin has virtually told Tommo to go as he’s been dropped again.  Played a good game and fits in to allow Lever to intercept.  It worked well v hawks but I think Tommo card is marked as “leave”. 
 

Bombers and Swans are most likely, or perhaps even the Hawks.  Whoever misses on Mckay might seek Tommo as a 2023 3rd round or future 3rd round pick swap 🤯

2 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Surely all the clubs chasing Ben Mckay would also have Adam Tomlinson on their list. 
 

Goodwin has virtually told Tommo to go as he’s been dropped again.  Played a good game and fits in to allow Lever to intercept.  It worked well v hawks but I think Tommo card is marked as “leave”. 
 

Bombers and Swans are most likely, or perhaps even the Hawks.  Whoever misses on Mckay might seek Tommo as a 2023 3rd round or future 3rd round pick swap 🤯

I can't understand how he wasn't picked up last year when he tried to leave. Hopefully a better outcome for him and us this year not that we'd get much but will free up some cap space. 

8 hours ago, goodwindees said:

Watch this space on Luke Beveridge.

Out the door.

9 hours ago, goodwindees said:

Things change very quickly when you have Clubs passionately selling their story, however, due to a changing family situation for Brodie, the City of Adelaide is very attractive.

Right now, I'd have Port Adelaide just in front of Sydney because as I stated, Sydney are working very hard at it.

Watch this space on Luke Beveridge.  

And just on Luke, if he goes, is that likely to cause more instability at the Bulldogs or solve it?

I'd love Naughton, thank you very much.