Trade Rumours 2023

[Nascent 7,466]

2 minutes ago, Redleg said:

Yes we appeared to be at cross purposes over our posts and I agree with you that the AFL wouldn’t be concerned with which players are actually picked by clubs.

As to the remarks you saw as condescending, they weren’t intended that way, but I take your point and will do better.

All good, tone is rarely conveyed well via text and I was perhaps overly sensitive as well. Now, back to trade rumours....

[Redleg 38,041]

6 minutes ago, Nascent said:

All good, tone is rarely conveyed well via text and I was perhaps overly sensitive as well. Now, back to trade rumours....

Mrs. Redleg has often told me not to write thoughts, but to actually say them, as there is less room for misunderstanding or misinterpretation.

As you say, back to rumours.

We have so far had posters saying Grundy is going to the Swans in a 3 club deal, back home to Port and now it’s being reported he has just bought a house in Melbourne. Wonder if the house has a farm attached.

[adonski 9,294]

6 minutes ago, Redleg said:

Mrs. Redleg has often told me not to write thoughts, but to actually say them, as there is less room for misunderstanding or misinterpretation.

As you say, back to rumours.

We have so far had posters saying Grundy is going to the Swans in a 3 club deal, back home to Port and now it’s being reported he has just bought a house in Melbourne. Wonder if the house has a farm attached.

Grundy really is going to have 3 clubs paying him wowee

[dazzledavey36 49,360]

4 hours ago, goodwindees said:

Hi Dazz.  There is a bit going on and I'll be in a better position over the coming weeks to possibly announce some details.  I can tell you though that the Swans have, and are still having an enormous crack at Brodie, however, Brodie has almost totally decided it is back to SA for him due to changing family reasons.  This will probably leave Port as the most likely.  Lots of details yet to be worked out and tricky with both Clubs going deep.

I can also tell you that the Swans are heavily into Parish & Bailey Smith, I don't the media has caught up with their interest in Parish, but they're very keen.

It'll come as no surprise but it is almost certain that Bailey Smith will be elsewhere next year.

Stay well & Go Dees.

Thanks 🐐

[Nascent 7,466]

4 hours ago, goodwindees said:

Hi Dazz.  There is a bit going on and I'll be in a better position over the coming weeks to possibly announce some details.  I can tell you though that the Swans have, and are still having an enormous crack at Brodie, however, Brodie has almost totally decided it is back to SA for him due to changing family reasons.  This will probably leave Port as the most likely.  Lots of details yet to be worked out and tricky with both Clubs going deep.

I can also tell you that the Swans are heavily into Parish & Bailey Smith, I don't the media has caught up with their interest in Parish, but they're very keen.

It'll come as no surprise but it is almost certain that Bailey Smith will be elsewhere next year.

Stay well & Go Dees.

Grundy to Port, Georgiades to dees perhaps?

[Travy14 1,564]

AFL.com are reporting that we are offering GC our first rounder, 23 and 32 for pick 4 which CG need to trade for points.

Id be happy to throw in our first round pick for next year too.

Then we go into this draft with pick 4 and 5 in a very strong draft.  Next years draft is apparently shallow so later picks won't be as profitable. all be it early days judging next years draft. 

[whatwhat say what 19,717]

4 minutes ago, Travy14 said:

AFL.com are reporting that we are offering GC our first rounder, 23 and 32 for pick 4 which CG need to trade for points.

Id be happy to throw in our first round pick for next year too.

Then we go into this draft with pick 4 and 5 in a very strong draft.  Next years draft is apparently shallow so later picks won't be as profitable. all be it early days judging next years draft. 

Every chance some other club could gazzump that

If - when - we win the premiership and Flagmantle finish 13th that’ll be 18, 23, 36 and less than 300 points over the value of pick 4

[Tolstoys Nudge 1,304]

3 hours ago, Jaded No More said:

If we land Oscar Allen (is this the Allen you are referring to?), Demonland will crash.

I just cannot see on what planet WCE let him go, and he is contracted. 

Exactly — they likely wouldn’t even if we did convince him to move.. but u have to be in it to win it right 

[Tolstoys Nudge 1,304]

4 hours ago, mo64 said:

There is no such thing as a bidding war for a player. The player will nominate his club of choice, and he either goes there or remains at his existing club.

And Grundy is a 99% chance of leaving. The club doesn't want to pay $650k for a back up ruckman until Max retires.

And it's been mentioned previously that a player can't be paid by 3 clubs, so we can't pay a portion of Grundy's contract whilst the Pies are still paying a significant chunk.

Incorrect, esp when multiple clubs in same state — dees are under no obligation to trade yes not uncontracted mate that’s the diff

[Travy14 1,564]

11 minutes ago, whatwhat say what said:

Every chance some other club could gazzump that

If - when - we win the premiership and Flagmantle finish 13th that’ll be 18, 23, 36 and less than 300 points over the value of pick 4

oh yeh, just saying I am more than happy to give up that capital for pick 4

[bluey 895]

He’s staying, he’s contracted, won’t be shafted a second time.

[spirit of norm smith 13,423]

I’m sure Grundy will get offers.

Maybe we can turn what we get into a potent package with Freo to get Liam Henry (?!?!) if he’s interested.  

[Stiff Arm 4,415]

4 hours ago, Travy14 said:

I don't see Melb paying a cent. they will keep him if that's the case.
The interesting factor that may come up is if the bench goes to 5.  Which i believe was the original reason for going after Grundy. 

If Grundy asks to leave, we may well pay some of his contract. I can't see us keeping him if he wants to go elsewhere

I highly doubt we will pay $650k for a player of his caliber to play at Casey as back up for 4 more years, esp if there are clubs enquiring now.

If we were to get a pick in the 20s, I'd go for it. Might be low 20s if we contribute, or high 20s if we do not. That was the deal 12 mths ago apparently 

[Mickey 4,197]

37 minutes ago, Travy14 said:

AFL.com are reporting that we are offering GC our first rounder, 23 and 32 for pick 4 which CG need to trade for points.

Id be happy to throw in our first round pick for next year too.

Then we go into this draft with pick 4 and 5 in a very strong draft.  Next years draft is apparently shallow so later picks won't be as profitable. all be it early days judging next years draft. 

Definitely throw in our future 1st, maybe with a future 2nd or 3rd coming back. The problem is GC need points this year, and 400 points extra probably isn't enough for them to bite

[Travy14 1,564]

Dees wont want to pay anything,  $650 for Grundy is a bargain.  and they will see it that way.  If as many clubs that are reported are interested in him there is no need to pay any of his contract.  Id say they don't care too much of the pick as they will be looking to move it on anyway.

[Travy14 1,564]

Just now, Mickey said:

Definitely throw in our future 1st, maybe with a future 2nd or 3rd coming back. The problem is GC need points this year, and 400 points extra probably isn't enough for them to bite

They have plenty of points, they just need a few more. this trade would get them there maybe the pick from the Grundy trade as well

[4_Kent_Watts 850]

On 8/19/2023 at 5:22 PM, Demon Disciple said:

Am I the only one that thinks Grundy should be the #1 ruck with Max the extra tall in the forward line?

Have Max and Grundy rotating with each other 70/30split. Max stays fresh, Brodie gets his ruck spot. Simples.

No Max is the Number One at the MfC and Grundy came to make the T.E.A.M. better. It's all about the T.E.A.M. and us being better not about Grundy feeling better. 

[Roost it far 6,240]

Would WC take pick 4 and 5 for Allen and would we do it?

[4_Kent_Watts 850]

2 hours ago, adonski said:

Grundy really is going to have 3 clubs paying him wowee

Af Monty Python would a said... You Lucky B45t4rd.

[Jaded No More 59,138]

29 minutes ago, Roost it far said:

Would WC take pick 4 and 5 for Allen and would we do it?

Overs for mine. Could be our last chance in a while to get another generational midfielder and extend our window. 

[Demonstone 19,694]

33 minutes ago, Roost it far said:

Would WC take pick 4 and 5 for Allen and would we do it?

WC would jump at that.  We'd be very foolish to do it.

[Redleg 38,041]

I would try and get Brayden George from Roos.

[BDA 20,637]

53 minutes ago, Roost it far said:

Would WC take pick 4 and 5 for Allen and would we do it?

I’d do it. Jvr and Allen would set up our forward line for a decade. Dream team pairing.

wont happen though. WC are trying to rebuild. Makes no sense for them to trade their best young player.

Edited August 24, 2023 by BDA

[Roger Mellie 3,601]

57 minutes ago, 4_Kent_Watts said:

No Max is the Number One at the MfC and Grundy came to make the T.E.A.M. better. It's all about the T.E.A.M. and us being better not about Grundy feeling better. 

If it's all about the team, we need to come to the realisation that Gawn is 32 at the end of the year. If Grundy hadn't carried a good chunk of the ruck load, Gawn wouldn't be as fresh for finals as he will be. He'd be even more banged up than he was last year and at (near enough) 32, he might not have too many years left in him and even less if he's carrying 90+% of the load. I'm not saying Grundy stays, but we sure as hell need someone who can give him a meaningful chop out, not just 5 minutes here and there. I wouldn't be settling for NQR ruckman like Ladhams, Hayes, Flynn and the eternally injured Preuss.

[DubDee 21,274]

58 minutes ago, Roost it far said:

Would WC take pick 4 and 5 for Allen and would we do it?

pick 4 and 5 for Allen?  Even Judd or Danger didn't get that much

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