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Death Riding Fremantle 2023 - Feathered Cap Edition

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On 7/17/2023 at 10:41 AM, Whispering_Jack said:

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4, 15 and 23 for WC's 1 and 19? Gives them an extra first rounder for bumping down a few spots at their first and second.

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    7 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

    The only time this thread lost the plot was on the 1st day of July when posters actually wanted the Dogs to beat Freo which therefore had them equal on points on us in the pursuit of top 4.

    Top 4 > a couple of draft picks higher up the board.

    I wonder if posters will be cheering Brisbane and Port to beat Freo if top 2 is still a live chance for us?

    We all want Fremantle to beat Geelong in Geelong, for example.

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    5 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

    We all want Fremantle to beat Geelong in Geelong, for example.

    id be happy with a draw

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    Freo will need to cause 2 upsets to give us a chance of getting to 3rd or even 2nd. 
    With North asking for compensation picks, we won’t be inside top 5 anyway. 

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    7 minutes ago, binman said:

    id be happy with a draw

    That would be the worst result. Cats have a high percentage and a draw already and Freo's percentage is low.

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    7 minutes ago, Mickey said:

    4, 15 and 23 for WC's 1 and 19? Gives them an extra first rounder for bumping down a few spots at their first and second.

    As much as we'd love this deal, I can't see the Eagles going for it at all.

    From a points point of view, the deal is fairly equal however I don't think any team is going to down grade from pick 1 unless they're going to get a serious win - especially when pick 1 looks by far the safest option in the draft.

    We'd have to sweeten it big time for them to nibble and either not receive back pick 19 or we throw in our first rounder from next year.

    The other challenge working against this deal is who the Eagles are targeting.  If it's the home grown Daniel Curtain (which surely they'd be massively in to) then Pick 4 could get him.

    However, if the Roos get a first round compo pick for McKay, it lessens that chance again.

    I'd happily have a crack at pick one with 4, 15 and 23.  Over time, I don't think there is a much of a difference between picks 10-30 anymore and with better development and more options to recruit (mid year draft and free agents signing) I'm all for getting just the best kid which by far looks to be Harley.

    If we had say two top 5 picks or one top five and a pick 8 it may be different.  But with all the NGA/Father Sons/Academy issues that down grade later picks, late first rounders aren't as attractive in my view as they used to be.

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    1 hour ago, chook fowler said:

    this is one of the sillier threads - needs to finish.

    Death riding is great fun chook. You should give it a go. It's wonderful watching a team fail knowing the greater the failure the greater the benefit to us. And its extra satisfying if you're petty and mean spirited like I am.

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    4 minutes ago, BDA said:

    Death riding is great fun chook. You should give it a go. It's wonderful watching a team fail knowing the greater the failure the greater the benefit to us. And its extra satisfying if you're petty and mean spirited like I am.

    Ignoring the fact it will benefit us, the way i see it, everyone took pleasure at our misfortune, we've definitely got some credits in the bank here

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    1 hour ago, Deebauched said:

    Surely you dont believe Hawthorn will lay down against us in a few weeks time?  I give them a chance against Richmond this weekend. Richmond struggled most of the day against a WAFL team .  Martin got a goal on the final siren ( a free?).

    Richmond are playing for a finals spot, what are Hawthorn playing for? certainly not to go from pick 3 to pick 6?

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    1 hour ago, SPC said:

    Freo will need to cause 2 upsets to give us a chance of getting to 3rd or even 2nd. 
    With North asking for compensation picks, we won’t be inside top 5 anyway. 

    what is the compensation for ?? Bad management Bad luck Bad plyers Bad coaching 

    Their problems are all self made

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    15 hours ago, Cheap Seats said:

    All the cool kids are going on about the failure of Gawndy, interestingly i haven't heard much (i must admit i don't listen that closely anymore these days), about the failure of Darcy and Jackson.

    Looks like Jacko has the ruck duties for a couple of weeks, i think it will suit him.

    Kane Cornes has been onto it for a while

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    8 minutes ago, Kent said:

    what is the compensation for ?? Bad management Bad luck Bad plyers Bad coaching 

    Their problems are all self made

    They shouldn’t get, for all points above.. but likely will. 

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    7 minutes ago, david_neitz_is_my_dad said:

    Richmond are playing for a finals spot, what are Hawthorn playing for? certainly not to go from pick 3 to pick 6?

    Early in the season plenty more posters said hawthorn were tanking to get Harley Reid. They’ve won 5 games. They have been having a crack every match (notwithstanding they’ve copped some beatings along the way which are par for the course for young developing teams).

    I’m not sure they would rather lose than end up with pick 4. I think Mitchell is telling his team to go out and have a go and let the cards fall where they may. I think this is the right approach from a cultural perspective. 

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    13 hours ago, Mickey said:

    4, 15 and 23 for WC's 1 and 19? Gives them an extra first rounder for bumping down a few spots at their first and second.

    Except it won't be 15, it will be 18!

    12 hours ago, SPC said:

    Freo will need to cause 2 upsets to give us a chance of getting to 3rd or even 2nd. 
    With North asking for compensation picks, we won’t be inside top 5 anyway. 

    The days of sides getting compenation picks at the top end of the draft are history. Last year North got additional 2nd & 3rd round picks for 2023 to be taken immediately after their normal picks on the basis they had to trade them for players. Fremantle now have those picks (21 & 40) in return for trading out Griffin Logue & Darcy Tucker. I assume any compenation picks North get this year wil be on a similar basis (2024 draft, in any case not top end of the 2023 draft since they already have Pick 2).

    11 hours ago, david_neitz_is_my_dad said:

    Richmond are playing for a finals spot, what are Hawthorn playing for? certainly not to go from pick 3 to pick 6?

    Hawthorn as they've done all season will be playing to win. Doesn't really matter anyway as they're not going to make up 2 games and percentage on Fremantle. Looking at Hawthorn's draw they'll be lucky to win 2 games and I can't see Fremantle losing to West Coast. Bottom 3 locked in.

    GWS supporters have even more reason to hope Hawthorn beat Richmond as they have Richmond's 1st round pick.   

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    21 hours ago, chook fowler said:

    this is one of the sillier threads - needs to finish.

     

    21 hours ago, sydneydee said:

    This is my favourite thread! It means nearly every game has a bearing on our draft hand and therefore creates interest

     

    20 hours ago, chook fowler said:

    fair enough.

    Glad that’s over. Was enraged for 4 seconds…

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    36 minutes ago, rpfc said:

     

     

    Glad that’s over. Was enraged for 4 seconds…

    Order is restored. 

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    Super important game for the Hawks to keep their season alive this afternoon.

    So apparently this it the potential ladder at the end of the season if the Hawks win every game from here and other results fall there way.  I'll be cheering them all the way to September.  Hell, I'd actually love to face off against them in a grand final with our current squad instead of Brisbane as shown in the graphic.FB_IMG_1689985477010.thumb.jpg.12372b2f60f6f0d111679f343a4fd9ae.jpg

     

    ...more importantly there's also a third spot for us riding on it too!!

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    1 hour ago, Rodney (Balls) Grinter said:

    Super important game for the Hawks to keep their season alive this afternoon.

    So apparently this it the potential ladder at the end of the season if the Hawks win every game from here and other results fall there way.  I'll be cheering them all the way to September.  Hell, I'd actually love to face off against them in a grand final with our current squad instead of Brisbane as shown in the graphic.FB_IMG_1689985477010.thumb.jpg.12372b2f60f6f0d111679f343a4fd9ae.jpg

     

    ...more importantly there's also a third spot for us riding on it too!!

    That means they’ll have to beat us. No thanks. 

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    8 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

    That means they’ll have to beat us. No thanks. 

    Yeah, they don't have to do that, just think their still enough of a chance to win a few more games and put themselves above Freo.

    Alternatively, if they beat us and we still finish 4th, I don't really care.  It's probably better for our draft hand to finish 4th than third anyway.

    I forget - do Hawthorn still have their own 1st round pick?  I'd actually rather they finish higher and get worse picks as well.

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