25 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:

It will probably be Buddy's final game, packed house at the SCG so they will be highly motivated and go all out to give him the send off he deserves.  Often forgotten in the GOAT discussions.

By then I think we will be locked into 4th so the result of the last game won't matter. 

We don't want to be going into finals off the back of a loss though. The only premier in the last decade to lose their final H&A game was the Bulldogs in 2016.

8 minutes ago, A F said:

We don't want to be going into finals off the back of a loss though. The only premier in the last decade to lose their final H&A game was the Bulldogs in 2016.

Just another record for us to break! 

Not suggesting we want to lose or that we will.  But hey, if we have some sore players why play them in a dead rubber, if that is what it turns out to be.

Nonetheless, I like the romance of an out and out champion of the game being saluted in his last run.

Edited July 11, 20232 yr by Lucifers Hero

52 minutes ago, A F said:

We don't want to be going into finals off the back of a loss though. The only premier in the last decade to lose their final H&A game was the Bulldogs in 2016.

Agree, but hope we are secure in 4th place before the game.

Sydney are a proud club with a lot of underperforming stars - they should win on Thursday and then in Perth to keep their season alive. 

If we are relying on Rd 24 for top 4 then jeez…

6 minutes ago, rpfc said:

Sydney are a proud club with a lot of underperforming stars - they should win on Thursday and then in Perth to keep their season alive. 

If we are relying on Rd 24 for top 4 then jeez…

You know this is the MFC right? They know no other way.

1 hour ago, A F said:

We don't want to be going into finals off the back of a loss though. The only premier in the last decade to lose their final H&A game was the Bulldogs in 2016.

Further to this, the previous 10 premiers combined have gone 35-5 in the last 4 rounds of the season..

Surely we would like to finish 4th if Collingwood locks the 1st place.

We'd always want an "away" final at the G.

Don't want to travel to the Gabba or Adelaide Oval in the first week of finals.

2 hours ago, Lucifers Hero said:

Just another record for us to break! 

Not suggesting we want to lose or that we will.  But hey, if we have some sore players why play them in a dead rubber, if that is what it turns out to be.

Nonetheless, I like the romance of an out and out champion of the game being saluted in his last run.

Is there still a week off before the finals with the extra round this year?

1 hour ago, ElDiablo14 said:

Surely we would like to finish 4th if Collingwood locks the 1st place.

We'd always want an "away" final at the G.

Don't want to travel to the Gabba or Adelaide Oval in the first week of finals.

Agree , but I have another scenario that includes QF 1 at Adelaide.

IF Dees finish 3rd, probability is they will not play away from the G at all for remaining finals, even if they lose that first QF to Power.  Will Play week 2 at the G, and then have Pies in Prelim at the G.

All down to winning this week. If not then forget I spoke.

1 hour ago, ElDiablo14 said:

Surely we would like to finish 4th if Collingwood locks the 1st place.

We'd always want an "away" final at the G.

Don't want to travel to the Gabba or Adelaide Oval in the first week of finals.

We can win anywhere. Especially with the pressure on the other team. 

But we just need to make sure we have a home semi final to get into a prelim. That’s the benefit of top 4 is.

Hayden Young potentially injured apparently

4 hours ago, Lucifers Hero said:

It will probably be Buddy's final game, packed house at the SCG so they will be highly motivated and go all out to give him the send off he deserves.  Often forgotten in the GOAT discussions.

By then I think we will be locked into 4th so the result of the last game won't matter. 

Buddy’s not the GOAT, not strong enough overhead to be even considered. 

5 minutes ago, Roost it far said:

Buddy’s not the GOAT, not strong enough overhead to be even considered. 

Is he not second on the leading goalkicker of all time list?

He deserves to be in the conversation. He's been a superstar.

Franklin is fourth on the all-time goalkicking list, behind Lockett, Coventry and Dunstall.

1 hour ago, Demonland said:

Is there still a week off before the finals with the extra round this year?

I believe so

2 hours ago, rpfc said:

Sydney are a proud club with a lot of underperforming stars - they should win on Thursday and then in Perth to keep their season alive. 

If we are relying on Rd 24 for top 4 then jeez…

dunno mate.  6 and 10.  would take a miracle for Swans to make the finals, especially how poorly they are playing and losing to the Tigers last week.  they would pretty much have to win all 7 remaining games

4 hours ago, Lucifers Hero said:

It will probably be Buddy's final game, packed house at the SCG so they will be highly motivated and go all out to give him the send off he deserves.  Often forgotten in the GOAT discussions.

By then I think we will be locked into 4th so the result of the last game won't matter. 

Having seen Buddy play last friday, I wouldn't be surprised if he pulls the pin before the last round.  Sad to see him lose his agility. Maybe they'll give him some time off and wheel him out for the last round

Absolutely laughable he has never won a brownlow (or multiple) when players like Priddis can win one.  Buddy has been the player of this generation. Certainly part of GOAT conversations but not in top 3 imo

2 hours ago, Demonland said:

Is there still a week off before the finals with the extra round this year?

100% yes.

40 minutes ago, adonski said:

Hayden Young potentially injured apparently

Would be a massive out normally but can see it making much of a difference this week. They are currently $7 to beat the pies. 
Now if he missed the Sydney game as well that would help this death ride nicely. 

looks like 4th or 5th pick is most likely thanks to the collective efforts of everyone here

congrats to all for such a successful campaign and thread

i just hope i haven't spoken too soon

 

46 minutes ago, Demonstone said:

Franklin is fourth on the all-time goalkicking list, behind Lockett, Coventry and Dunstall.

and the only chf in that lot

3 hours ago, ElDiablo14 said:

Surely we would like to finish 4th if Collingwood locks the 1st place.

We'd always want an "away" final at the G.

Don't want to travel to the Gabba or Adelaide Oval in the first week of finals.

Think Id prefer to go to port first week, free hit with a nervous port team. Win and we set up a home Prelim. loose and we hopefully win week 2 and set up a home prelim against the pies.

 

2 hours ago, adonski said:

Hayden Young potentially injured apparently

Confirmed out for this week.

53 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

and the only chf in that lot

He also played in a lower scoring era than Dunstall and Lockett, and also in an era where the goal kicking load was shared more evenly between players (not primarily the full forward).

In the years Buddy has been active, the average team score was 87 points, whilst it was 99 (2 goals) more in the time of Dunstall and Lockett. 

Also, since Buddy has been active, he is the only player to have kicked 100 goal in a season. The only player to have even kicked 90 in that time was Fevola (the same year). Between 1983 and 1999, when Lockett was playing, there were only 4 years where a player didn't kick 100 goals (Beasley 1985 - 93 goal, John Longmire 1990 - 98 goals, Tony Modra 1997 - 81 goals, and Scott Cumming 1999 - 88 goals). Nobody has kicked more than 80 goals since 2009! During Lockett's 17 year career, there were 21 occasions where a player kicked 100 goals.

Buddy is underrated as a potential GOAT. The nearest goalkicking rivals of his era have played about he same number of games (J Riewoldt and Hawkins) and still haven't even kicked 800 goals (779 and 772 - Buddy has 1061).

1 hour ago, Demonstone said:

Franklin is fourth on the all-time goalkicking list, behind Lockett, Coventry and Dunstall.

Also not in the goal scoring era of Dunstall and Lockett, but in the defence first era.

 

Overhead marking definitely not a strength, but I'd argue he was a tall strong flanker rather than a true CHF in that sense. And I reckon he'd have a fair case as the GOAT HFF!