MELBOURNE

Picks (at start of the draft): 13, 37, 78, 83

Selections: Matt Jefferson (15), Jed Adams (38)

Went for two bookends in key forward Jefferson and key back Adams. The Dees had interest in exciting 194cm utility Ed Allan with their first pick after the Eagles overlooked him, but Melbourne ultimately went for the tall goalkicker in Jefferson, who’ll spend most of his first two years in the VFL but learn lots under Ben Brown and Tom McDonald in the hope he’ll one day take over from them. Adams had lots of interest from clubs, so the Dees pounced on the athletic key defender. Like Jefferson, though, he’s a project player.

Grade: C+

I'm not arguing for or against the Fox ranking, but it's foolish to rank the draft without combining it with the trade period and all other list movements. 

Their headline report card table gives them a C, but their related club article gives them a C+ ? 

All fugazi.

The only way to really rank a draft is 3 or 4 years after the event.

When you are not at the pointy end of the draft or you don't have Father-Son recruits like Daicos/Ashcroft/Fletcher then you are rated poorly because your drafting was probably looking to the future.

We overlooked Ed Allan which may come back to bite us but we have to back the recruiters who only job is evaluation of young immature players and where they will be in 3-5 years time.

9 minutes ago, durango said:

We overlooked Ed Allan which may come back to bite us

He has to be a flight risk...

Brisbane kissed on the [censored] having 2 top rated father sons. Jammy bastards

North will be pleased with their haul and have picked up 3 excellent young players. 

The rest is just guesswork

 

How to rank the draft:

Give every club that had a top 5 pick an A or A+
Give the clubs with picks 6-10 an A or B+
Give clubs with picks in the remaining first round a B or a C+
Give the clubs with picks 20-40 a C+ or C.
All the rest give a D

Easy.
 

Gold Coast get A's or B's for their drafting every year yet are still hopeless

Edited November 30, 20222 yr by BDA

ESPN Chris Doerre continues to dislike our performance at the trade and now draft table.

Melbourne

Picks: 15, 38

Players drafted: Matthew Jefferson, Jed Adams

Grade: E

Rationale: Melbourne's first selection in Matthew Jefferson was a speculative one for the stage in the draft. Jefferson is an athletic and strong marking key forward who doesn't need a lot of the ball to hit the scoreboard heavily but will also need to start finding more of the football more often to become a consistent key forward. Adams was a surprise choice in the second round given his injury history though is an athletic defender who has played a competitive brand of football when available.

 

5 minutes ago, Nascent said:

ESPN Chris Doerre continues to dislike our performance at the trade and now draft table.

Melbourne

Picks: 15, 38

Players drafted: Matthew Jefferson, Jed Adams

Grade: E

Rationale: Melbourne's first selection in Matthew Jefferson was a speculative one for the stage in the draft. Jefferson is an athletic and strong marking key forward who doesn't need a lot of the ball to hit the scoreboard heavily but will also need to start finding more of the football more often to become a consistent key forward. Adams was a surprise choice in the second round given his injury history though is an athletic defender who has played a competitive brand of football when available.

 

Image from Bigfooty....he really rated Jeffer in September, but not when he's at the Dees!

Richmonds first pick is after our recruiters have left the building....and they get a higher mark!

1 hour ago, Nascent said:

ESPN Chris Doerre continues to dislike our performance at the trade and now draft table.

Melbourne

Picks: 15, 38

Players drafted: Matthew Jefferson, Jed Adams

Grade: E

Rationale: Melbourne's first selection in Matthew Jefferson was a speculative one for the stage in the draft. Jefferson is an athletic and strong marking key forward who doesn't need a lot of the ball to hit the scoreboard heavily but will also need to start finding more of the football more often to become a consistent key forward. Adams was a surprise choice in the second round given his injury history though is an athletic defender who has played a competitive brand of football when available.

 

Surely that’s affirming that we just aced the draft. Knigtmare hasn’t a [censored] clue!!!

Edited November 30, 20222 yr by Demon Disciple

The talls are hard to rate and take longer to develop - unless they are absolute stand out. Much easier to rate mids based on stats.

Interesting snippet here re Goodwin's role in getting the Davey twins to the Dons:

They are the two oldest sons of speedster forward Alwyn, who played 100 games for the Bombers from 2007-13. But for his four sons to be eligible as father-son picks, Davey had to reach that 100-game milestone. He was banged up at the end of the 2013 season and so were the Bombers, with coach James Hird suspended for the last game against Richmond because of their drugs scandal.

But caretaker coach Simon Goodwin – now the Melbourne premiership coach – made sure Davey reached 100 games.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/870487/dons-double-davey-delight-a-plan-nine-years-in-the-making

2 hours ago, adonski said:

Image from Bigfooty....he really rated Jeffer in September, but not when he's at the Dees!

Dude just does not like Melbourne.

2 hours ago, adonski said:

Image from Bigfooty....he really rated Jeffer in September, but not when he's at the Dees!

ESPN and its employees should stick to American sports

Go back to some of his previous ratings of drafts. It’s pretty funny reading.

For example, in 2018 he rated Carlton a D as the worst of the draft because they selected Sam Walsh over Lukosius and Rankine. He then ranked Brisbane an A because they selected Connor McFadyen and Ely Smith, and Essendon an A for Noah Gown, Irving Mosquito and Brayden Ham.

I know it’s easy to cherry pick but these articles mean less than nothing given that there is no object measure of talent. And, without being too harsh, Doerre’s ratings probably mean less than that.

Edited November 30, 20222 yr by Axis of Bob

2 hours ago, Nascent said:

ESPN Chris Doerre continues to dislike our performance at the trade and now draft table.

Melbourne

Picks: 15, 38

Players drafted: Matthew Jefferson, Jed Adams

Grade: E

Rationale: Melbourne's first selection in Matthew Jefferson was a speculative one for the stage in the draft. Jefferson is an athletic and strong marking key forward who doesn't need a lot of the ball to hit the scoreboard heavily but will also need to start finding more of the football more often to become a consistent key forward. Adams was a surprise choice in the second round given his injury history though is an athletic defender who has played a competitive brand of football when available.

 

Jason Taylor must have ran over his dog

2 hours ago, Nascent said:

ESPN Chris Doerre continues to dislike our performance at the trade and now draft table.

Melbourne

Picks: 15, 38

Players drafted: Matthew Jefferson, Jed Adams

Grade: E

Rationale: Melbourne's first selection in Matthew Jefferson was a speculative one for the stage in the draft. Jefferson is an athletic and strong marking key forward who doesn't need a lot of the ball to hit the scoreboard heavily but will also need to start finding more of the football more often to become a consistent key forward. Adams was a surprise choice in the second round given his injury history though is an athletic defender who has played a competitive brand of football when available.

 

Here is his form in adjudicating the Dees draft picks from 2019-2021. Note his rating of a premiership draft haul in 2019.

2 hours ago, adonski said:

Image from Bigfooty....he really rated Jeffer in September, but not when he's at the Dees!

Here is the link: https://www.espn.com/afl/story/_/id/34672755/afl-2022-phantom-draft-espn-early-two-round-breakdown-chris-doerre

3 hours ago, Nascent said:

Rationale: Melbourne's first selection in Matthew Jefferson was a speculative one for the stage in the draft. Jefferson is an athletic and strong marking key forward who doesn't need a lot of the ball to hit the scoreboard heavily but will also need to start finding more of the football more often to become a consistent key forward.

If he finds it 6 times a game for 6 goals then I will be more than happy.

Any draft ranking know alls who didn't have MFC as an A+ in the years we picked up Petracca and Oliver, don't have opinions worth consideration.7

I know media is all about content and filling the paper each day but these assessments on clubs drafting these young players mean little.

Walking away with Grundy and Hunter plus adding the others around the fringe, then add in the 2 kpp, the 2 rucks and the unknown forward mid, plus having 4 picks in the first 36 in the 2023 draft and really only losing Jackson we have done pretty well.

 

 

Edited December 1, 20222 yr by drdrake

Stuff and nonsense. As pointed out above there are many reasons why these exercises are pointless, the main one being that if you have a poor season you have a better chance of rating well simply because you get the early choices or if you’re lucky enough to have a couple of decent father sons then you’ve got the magic, golden ticket.

Gold Coast get a B but the background is that they sold a top 10 pick for salary gap relief and gave away a quality player to get pick 6. And for that solitary 2022 selection of theirs, they got a “B”? The jury is still out on their 2021 picks as well. 

This is rubbish passing for “news”.