20 minutes ago, deejammin' said:

SEN reporting mid foot sprain 5-6 weeks this morning.

If it's 5-6 weeks some unlucky bugger is gonna have to make way and miss out on a premiership

4 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

We'd be looking at preliminary final return if that's the case.

I was a little out with my prediction 😂

2 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

If it's 5-6 weeks some unlucky bugger is gonna have to make way and miss out on a premiership

Win the premiership. Worry about that later

 

5-6 weeks is an ideal outcome given the circumstances 

7 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

We'd be looking at preliminary final return if that's the case.

Or elimination final if we lose week one. Which we won’t 😉

13 hours ago, Gillies said:

Why is everyone so convinced frittata is coming back soon? He’s got a potential season ending injury. Foot injuries are notorious for healing 

I posted elsewhere he indicated to supporters after last week's game he was four weeks (four fingers held up) away. So now, that would be three fingers or weeks, take your pick.

11 hours ago, IRW said:

Yeah  let's go with finished or retirement

Or washed up? That would keep the kitchen reference rolling without the tedium of everything being cooked.

1 hour ago, Jaded No More said:

Win the premiership. Worry about that later

 

5-6 weeks is an ideal outcome given the circumstances 

Any time foot or bad ankle injuries happen now I think of metal plates going in and all sorts of weirdo stuff that could affect a player's long term career. 

I feel the same way I did with Fritsch, if it's 5 - 6 weeks it's not ideal at all but at least it's not threatening for next season and a full recovery can be made. 

Edited August 7, 20231 yr by layzie
*could* not *couldn't*

5 minutes ago, pitmaster said:

Or washed up? That would keep the kitchen reference rolling without the tedium of everything being cooked.

How about ‘done’? Covers off both cooking and washing.

10 minutes ago, pitmaster said:

Or washed up? That would keep the kitchen reference rolling without the tedium of everything being cooked.

Fried?

2 hours ago, deejammin' said:

SEN reporting mid foot sprain 5-6 weeks this morning.

I’d take that as a win all things considered, the GF is 9 weeks away.

2 hours ago, layzie said:

I'm scared it's both high ankle and the mid foot. From the vision at the time and the way it moved I would have sworn ankle. 

Another day of sweating, I hate football. 

 

2 hours ago, Roost it far said:

It will be of no surprise if it’s a 3-6 month injury

Is this all MFCSS generated pessimism?    (PS I can understand that)

This injury is a real downtrodder. The combo of Petty and JVR seemed to be a workable solution. Forget about Grundy playing in the forward line. It is not his role in life.

Carlton will not want Grundy in our Forward Line damaging people that they need in Finals. Fact.

This is what will happen if Grundy plays. That is what used to happen up until they moved on the previous person to Gold Coast.

They also think they can get away with placing Silvagni now Martin in their Forward line just to fall over or push people in the back when the Umpire is not looking.

JVR will be running all over the place picking up kicks.

Who is this Liz Frank Person, and what are they doing to poor Harry’s foot?

1 hour ago, monoccular said:

 

Is this all MFCSS generated pessimism?    (PS I can understand that)

I just watched his ankle buckle and thought sheesh that’s gotta hurt

If the 5-6 weeks being rumoured is correct, that’s an enormous win, could just as easily have ruptured ankle medial ligament, inferior tibio-fibular syndesmosis, or fracture (the things I was worried about). 
 

The way he injured it, with the ankle in dorsiflexion, meaning toes toward knee, is very unlikely to cause a Lisfranc disruption. It almost always occurs with foot in plantarflexion (ballerina ‘point’ direction). 
 

As a dweeby aside, the Lisfranc injury is named after Napoleon’s cavalry head honcho, Générale Lisfranc, who reported the injury occurring commonly to soldiers who were knocked off their horse, only to have a foot locked in the stirrup in forced plantarflexion. Ouchy. Too much nerdy-know? Not if you want to win your next pub trivia night! 

Edited August 7, 20231 yr by Webber

7 minutes ago, Webber said:

If the 5-6 weeks being rumoured is correct, that’s an enormous win, could just as easily have ruptured ankle medial ligament, inferior tibio-fibular syndesmosis, or fracture (the things I was worried about). 
 

The way he injured it, with the ankle in dorsiflexion, meaning toes toward knee, is very unlikely to cause a Lisfranc disruption. It almost always occurs with foot in plantarflexion (ballerina ‘point’ direction). 
 

As a dweeby aside, the Lisfranc injury is named after Napoleon’s cavalry head honcho, Générale Lisfranc, who reported the injury occurring commonly to soldiers who were knocked off their horse, only to have a foot locked in the stirrup in forced plantarflexion. Ouchy. Too much nerdy-know? Not if you want to win your next pub trivia night! 

Think you are a more than a bbq

7 minutes ago, Webber said:

If the 5-6 weeks being rumoured is correct, that’s an enormous win, could just as easily have ruptured ankle medial ligament, inferior tibio-fibular syndesmosis, or fracture (the things I was worried about). 
 

The way he injured it, with the ankle in dorsiflexion, meaning toes toward knee, is very unlikely to cause a Lisfranc disruption. It almost always occurs with foot in plantarflexion (ballerina ‘point’ direction). 
 

As a dweeby aside, the Lisfranc injury is named after Napoleon’s cavalry head honcho, Générale Lisfranc, who reported the injury occurring commonly to soldiers who were knocked off their horse, only to have a foot locked in the stirrup in forced plantarflexion. Ouchy. Too much nerdy-know? Not if you want to win your next pub trivia night! 

Thanks Webber for the explanations.

What I saw was clearly a foot that Petty was holding/feeling as he sat on the bench. I therefore assumed it wasn’t his ankle.

Can you please explain what syndesmosis is.

32 minutes ago, Webber said:

If the 5-6 weeks being rumoured is correct, that’s an enormous win, could just as easily have ruptured ankle medial ligament, inferior tibio-fibular syndesmosis, or fracture (the things I was worried about). 
 

The way he injured it, with the ankle in dorsiflexion, meaning toes toward knee, is very unlikely to cause a Lisfranc disruption. It almost always occurs with foot in plantarflexion (ballerina ‘point’ direction). 
 

As a dweeby aside, the Lisfranc injury is named after Napoleon’s cavalry head honcho, Générale Lisfranc, who reported the injury occurring commonly to soldiers who were knocked off their horse, only to have a foot locked in the stirrup in forced plantarflexion. Ouchy. Too much nerdy-know? Not if you want to win your next pub trivia night! 

Webber when I first saw the impact on the replays I was adamant that the ankle twisted to about 9 o clock like an abduction movement and over-stretched the ligaments but is it more likely the force came from below the foot and went more upwards? 

PS: Apologies in advance for incorrect lingo. 

Edited August 7, 20231 yr by layzie

10 minutes ago, Redleg said:

Thanks Webber for the explanations.

What I saw was clearly a foot that Petty was holding/feeling as he sat on the bench. I therefore assumed it wasn’t his ankle.

Can you please explain what syndesmosis is.

Yep. The bone that allows up and down movement of the foot (at the ankle) is the Talus, kind of a cubic shaped bone with an articulating dome. That dome is ‘clasped’ on either side by the fibula and the tibia (the two lower leg bones). That clasp is held together by ligaments, i.e. they join the tib and fib together. That’s called a syndesmosis. To say that someone’s got a syndesmosis injury (and it sh**s me blind when they don’t say ‘injury’) means that join has been disrupted, thus the ankle becomes unstable (the ‘clasp’ runs from totally impatent to insecure). Depending on severity, means time off in reduced weight-bearing or at worst, surgery (to resecure the clasp). 

1 hour ago, buck_nekkid said:

Who is this Liz Frank Person, and what are they doing to poor Harry’s foot?

A relation of Anne

45 minutes ago, Webber said:

If the 5-6 weeks being rumoured is correct, that’s an enormous win, could just as easily have ruptured ankle medial ligament, inferior tibio-fibular syndesmosis, or fracture (the things I was worried about). 
 

The way he injured it, with the ankle in dorsiflexion, meaning toes toward knee, is very unlikely to cause a Lisfranc disruption. It almost always occurs with foot in plantarflexion (ballerina ‘point’ direction). 
 

As a dweeby aside, the Lisfranc injury is named after Napoleon’s cavalry head honcho, Générale Lisfranc, who reported the injury occurring commonly to soldiers who were knocked off their horse, only to have a foot locked in the stirrup in forced plantarflexion. Ouchy. Too much nerdy-know? Not if you want to win your next pub trivia night! 

And his treatment back then was amputation across the mid foot! Thank heavens he isn’t our club doctor!

Mid foot injury scans confirmed,

Surgery tomorrow,

5 weeks out,

Grundy with a week to show his wares before Fritta is ready. Potential for Smith to go back forward also. 

Edited August 7, 20231 yr by Dannyz

In my opinion. Petty is far too valuable an asset to consider playing again this year.

he has been just a bit injury prone in a couple of recent games.  No wonder his foot was sore kicking 6.  And I don’t think he has been fully fit. Just my opinion

but he seems to have proven he can play forward!  Quite well at that.  So put him away until next year, 

  Looking forward to fighting for grand final tickets go dees !!

4 minutes ago, Dannyz said:

Mid foot injury scans confirmed,

Surgery tomorrow,

5 weeks out,

Grundy with a week to show his wares before Fritta is ready. Potential for Smith to go back forward also. 

Sorry for my ignorance, but would 5 weeks mean available for first final? R22-24 plus a week break.