Improving the Demons coaching staff for 2023?

[Supreme_Demon 3,863]

I was just wondering who we could add to the Melbourne Demons coaching staff to help us next year in 2023?

I definitely think Simon Goodwin would like to improve our line coaches.

I know a lot will depend if Adem Yze ends up getting the Essendon coaching job or (hopefully) stays with us.

Nevertheless, I think the Melbourne Demons should definitely look to consider pursuing Ben Rutten and Nathan Buckley.

I do not like to compare with other clubs. But if you look at Collingwood they definitely improved their coaching staff for 2022.  They brought in Brendon Bolton and Justin Leppitsch who have definitely helped Craig McCrae in his first year as senior coach at the Magpies.

Obviously we still have Mark "Choco" Williams who has been absolutely fantastic for us. As has Adem Yze in supporting Simon Goodwin.

We also shouldn't forget the efforts made by Troy Chaplin and Greg Stafford. Not to mention the Casey Demons VFL coach Mark Corrigan.

Alan Richardson does a brilliant job as Football Manager and I am sure Sam Radford contributes immensely too.

Nevertheless, I just would like to see improvements made for our forward line connection and if we can bring some more talented coaches in to help improve team performance then that would definitely make a difference.

I also still think we need a proper goal kicking coach at the Melbourne Football Club.

Anyway, please let me know your thoughts on whether or not we should consider pursuing Ben Rutten and Nathan Buckley to join our coaching staff at the Melbourne Football Club?

I think anything we can do to help us improve for season 2023 needs to at least be considered.

Edited September 12, 2022 by Supreme_Demon

[JimmyGadson 3,455]

Yes.

This is a big one and just as important as list changes etc.

We need fresh eyes, voices and ideas and it will do the entire environment a world of good to land a couple of well respected assistants.

Carlton and Collingwood have got fantastic assistants, we need a couple more.

[Willmoy1947 4,090]

Hard nut essential..

[Demons11 7,025]

7 minutes ago, Supreme_Demon said:

I was just wondering who we could add to the Melbourne Demons coaching staff to help us next year in 2023?

I definitely think Simon Goodwin would like to improve our line coaches.

I know a lot will depend if Adem Yze ends up getting the Essendon coaching job or (hopefully) stays with us.

Nevertheless, I think the Melbourne Demons should definitely look to consider pursuing Ben Rutten and Nathan Buckley.

I do not like to compare with other clubs. But if you look at Collingwood they definitely improved their coaching staff for 2022.  They brought in Brendon Bolton and Justin Leppitsch who have definitely helped Craig McCrae in his first year as senior coach at the Magpies.

Obviously we still have Mark "Choco" Williams who has been absolutely fantastic for us. As has Adem Yze in supporting Simon Goodwin.

We also shouldn't forget the efforts made by Troy Chaplin and Greg Stafford. Not to mention the Casey Demons VFL coach Mark Corrigan.

Alan Richardson does a brilliant job as Football Manager and I am sure Sam Radford contributes immensely too.

Nevertheless, I just would like to see improvements made for our forward line connection and if we can bring some more talented coaches in to help improve team performance then that would definitely make a difference.

Anyway, please let me know your thoughts on whether or not we should consider pursuing Ben Rutten and Nathan Buckley to join our coaching staff at the Melbourne Football Club?

I think anything we can do to help us improve for season 2023 needs to at least be considered.

I think the soft cap will increase and they will be able to get in a new assistant coach as well as someone in strength and conditioning 

[BDA 22,755]

Poach the Collingwood ball movement coach

[Sir Why You Little 37,046]

Goal Kicking Coaching is Paramount for this Summer. That includes kicking the ball into the 50 metre area and presenting leading options 

[Diamond_Jim 12,590]

9 minutes ago, Demons11 said:

I think the soft cap will increase and they will be able to get in a new assistant coach as well as someone in strength and conditioning 

They announced the new soft cap a few months ago. It wasn't a massive increase IIRC but better than nothing.

Hard to disassociate player group form from line coaches and then there is the overarching gameplan.

Where to start

[Demons11 7,025]

3 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

They announced the new soft cap a few months ago. It wasn't a massive increase IIRC but better than nothing.

Hard to disassociate player group form from line coaches and then there is the overarching gameplan.

Where to start

I think they’ll increase again on the back of the TV rights deal.  The last increase was just to help clubs lift existing staff wages up to account for the reduction they took in Covid 

Edited September 12, 2022 by Demons11

[Bring-Back-Powell 14,842]

22 minutes ago, Supreme_Demon said:

I do not like to compare with other clubs. But if you look at Collingwood they definitely improved their coaching staff for 2022.  They brought in Brendon Bolton and Justin Leppitsch who have definitely helped Craig McCrae in his first year as senior coach at the Magpies.

Spot on.

Leppitsch has proven himself to be one of the very best assistant coaches in the modern era.

Someone like a Ben Rutten might fit the bill. A failed senior coach but did some very good things during Richmond's 2017 and 2018 seasons, and was then poached by Essendon.

[Supreme_Demon 3,863]

With Ben "Truck" Rutten rejoining the Richmond coaching staff we will need to look at other options.

Particularly, IF we end up losing Adem Yze if he is successful in getting the Essendon senior coaching role.

As much as I am sure some here would disagree, I would definitely like the Melbourne Football Club to look to approach someone like Nathan Buckley. He would be an excellent midfield coach and could still do at least some of his media commitments. It would definitely be a tantalizing offer to get the chance to coach Clayton Oliver, Christian Petracca, Jack Viney and Max Gawn in the Demons midfield. Anyway, I guess we shall have to wait and see what happens during the off season.

Additionally, I wouldn't mind asking Nick Riewoldt if he wanted to help out as a forwards coach either.

Are there any other suggestions on who the Demons should consider pursuing to enhance our coaching staff?

 

Edited September 16, 2022 by Supreme_Demon

[Red and Blue realist 2,051]

Stevie J is the one for me, he's just finished at the Giants and is moving back to Vic. I always thought he was very intelligent as a player, so would make a good addition to our forward line group. 

[Nicko 1,382]

Could we steal James Kelly from Geelong?? 

[whatwhat say what 22,771]

presumably all the gw$ assistants are available - the aforementioned stevie j, spike mcveigh, and dean solomon?

wouldn't surprise me in the least if the latter was the one who ends up as peptides' senior coach

[FlashInThePan 1,893]

On 9/12/2022 at 1:35 PM, willmoy said:

Hard nut essential..

 

On 9/12/2022 at 1:35 PM, Demons11 said:

I think the soft cap will increase and they will be able to get in a new assistant coach as well as someone in strength and conditioning 

So, putting it all together we need a soft cap on a hard nut?

Never mind, I'll see myself out...

[praha 11,240]

stevie j

[Demon Disciple 12,141]

A half decent forwards coach should be a start

[Gawndy the Great 9,011]

1 hour ago, Supreme_Demon said:

With Ben "Truck" Rutten rejoining the Richmond coaching staff we will need to look at other options.

Particularly, IF we end up losing Adem Yze if he is successful in getting the Essendon senior coaching role.

As much as I am sure some here would disagree, I would definitely like the Melbourne Football Club to look to approach someone like Nathan Buckley. He would be an excellent midfield coach and could still do at least some of his media commitments. It would definitely be a tantalizing offer to get the chance to coach Clayton Oliver, Christian Petracca, Jack Viney and Max Gawn in the Demons midfield. Anyway, I guess we shall have to wait and see what happens during the off season.

Additionally, I wouldn't mind asking Nick Riewoldt if he wanted to help out as a forwards coach either.

Are there any other suggestions on who the Demons should consider pursuing to enhance our coaching staff?

 

At face value, I think Buckley would be the worst choice. He is probably too defensively orientated which would reinforce our slow ball movement issues.

 

 

[1964_2 2,357]

A freshen up is critical. 2 new assistants I think. Whether Yze stays or goes. 

Hopefully Simon has some time to critically assess his performance (maybe with the help of others). Accept his weaknesses, and look to bring in assistants who can compensate. 
 

[1964_2 2,357]

Buckley a no for me. Leppitsch a big yes! 

[whatwhat say what 22,771]

wouldn't go near buckley - he took the filth backwards every year with the exception of 2018 which feels like the exception that proves the rule

i'm definitely keen on stevie j

[rjay 24,929]

2 hours ago, whatwhat say what said:

dean solomon

...and Brenton Sanderson are 2 I would look at if Yze gets the EFC job.

[rpfc 28,441]

On 9/12/2022 at 1:44 PM, Sir Why You Little said:

Goal Kicking Coaching is Paramount for this Summer. That includes kicking the ball into the 50 metre area and presenting leading options 

So more than ‘goal kicking’ coaching…

Youre describing what a forward coach should drive. Stafford needs help or needs to go.

[Willmoy1947 4,090]

 

Hard nut essential..

I'm also keen on Mcveigh, and there is a FF who might be coming back to Vic from WC

[Sir Why You Little 37,046]

35 minutes ago, rpfc said:

So more than ‘goal kicking’ coaching…

Youre describing what a forward coach should drive. Stafford needs help or needs to go.

Absolutely. The whole scenario needs to be improved 

not just Kicking 

[Deemania since 56 6,640]

On 9/12/2022 at 12:56 PM, Supreme_Demon said:

I was just wondering who we could add to the Melbourne Demons coaching staff to help us next year in 2023?

I definitely think Simon Goodwin would like to improve our line coaches.

I know a lot will depend if Adem Yze ends up getting the Essendon coaching job or (hopefully) stays with us.

Nevertheless, I think the Melbourne Demons should definitely look to consider pursuing Ben Rutten and Nathan Buckley.

I do not like to compare with other clubs. But if you look at Collingwood they definitely improved their coaching staff for 2022.  They brought in Brendon Bolton and Justin Leppitsch who have definitely helped Craig McCrae in his first year as senior coach at the Magpies.

Obviously we still have Mark "Choco" Williams who has been absolutely fantastic for us. As has Adem Yze in supporting Simon Goodwin.

We also shouldn't forget the efforts made by Troy Chaplin and Greg Stafford. Not to mention the Casey Demons VFL coach Mark Corrigan.

Alan Richardson does a brilliant job as Football Manager and I am sure Sam Radford contributes immensely too.

Nevertheless, I just would like to see improvements made for our forward line connection and if we can bring some more talented coaches in to help improve team performance then that would definitely make a difference.

I also still think we need a proper goal kicking coach at the Melbourne Football Club.

Anyway, please let me know your thoughts on whether or not we should consider pursuing Ben Rutten and Nathan Buckley to join our coaching staff at the Melbourne Football Club?

I think anything we can do to help us improve for season 2023 needs to at least be considered.

Keep Yze at all costs and bring in Jordan Lewis, full-time.