On 04/09/2022 at 05:46, Mr Steve said:

I think Melksham holds his spot. His disposal let him down on the weekend not his general play. 

NO WAY

  On 04/09/2022 at 08:56, picket fence said:

NO WAY

Hard call. We really only have brown to replace milkshake. Tmac is underdone 

we slaughtered them when we played 3 quarters of football. i dont think we will get away with only playing 3 quarters again. I just hope our players dont get ahead of themselves, this will be tough they will come at our players hard and will try to crush oliver. we need everyone playing well,

Not sure that any of the changes being suggested here will change the result one iota (or would have changed the result on Friday night). It's about how we play, not who we play. OK, maybe some tinkering at the edges, but if we don't put it together a bit better than we did against the Swans, then we'll set ourselves a task.

Edited September 4, 20222 yr by bing181

But especially in finals, I feel that changes are about roles, structure and match-ups. Joel Smith for Salem could be one if we want more height and athleticism down back. Tom Mac for someone if we want the two-talls forward so that we can free up Gawn/Jackson to stick to rucking. 

Wing is another issue, though that's more reorganising who we have out there (though god knows who/how), I can't see us bringing in Baker.

  On 03/09/2022 at 11:18, titan_uranus said:

If TMac was closer to full fitness, I'd be bringing him back for Melksham. But we can't afford to play him when he's spent so long out of the game. Particularly given the odds of us playing an under-fit Petracca will be high (he'll declare himself fine to play and the coaches won't go against his word).

He has to come in Titan, i would rather roll the dice with him in the Semi against Brisbane give him the game he needs in a quicker paced game and correct our structure.

 

  On 04/09/2022 at 07:16, Redlagged said:

Not sure our list is all it is cracked up to be. A few great players, but several pretty mediocre ones. And some of our better players have major flaws...ie. Brayshaw's substandard disposal. Timid selection and the failure to regenerate the team by trying a few new players, and instead rewarding mediocrity, hasn't helped. Thank God for Oliver.

All teams have mediocre or average players, hence the salary cap.

Frankly, I'd like to see some personnel change.

We've been incredibly inconsistent for the entire second half of the year and I've remained annoyed like others that Goodwin has simply refused to blood players that have been in form at VFL. Chandler for instance. Is he the stiffest bloke going around?

What happened to rewarding form? 

I believe the club and supporters will get a kick out of changing some things up this weekend. 

Brisbane just had a debutant and look at what happened? 

I'd love to see JVR get a gig and bring Bowey and Chandler in. We need a shake up, it's just all too boring and vanilla atm and the 22 need some excitement and a rev up.

Make it happen Goodwin.

  On 04/09/2022 at 06:25, Fat Tony said:

The key change we need to make is to play long and boring around the boundary. The Lions are missing their best ruckman. Minimise the number of bad turnovers and strangle them. 

Change? We’ve done that all year!

  On 04/09/2022 at 08:24, binman said:

I am more concerned we lose this match than i was before round 23.

I reckon now that they have won a final they'll view this match, on our home deck and at long odds to win, as a free hit and play more relaxed.

And I feel like we are under more pressure. 

This is exactly how i’m thinking.

We need Gawn to channel his inner Garry Lyon and “dee”liver another big captains game like he did in the prelim last year!

Let us not disrespect the Lions

they will be out to win and are still a quality side with a quality coach

  On 04/09/2022 at 09:27, Doug Reemer said:

Change? We’ve done that all year!

We have clearly been more attacking the last two games. It worked beautifully the first time but it has cost us against Sydney with turnovers.

  On 04/09/2022 at 09:38, Superunknown said:

quality coach

Gotta disagree on that point. 

  On 04/09/2022 at 10:02, Fat Tony said:

We have clearly been more attacking the last two games. It worked beautifully the first time but it has cost us against Sydney with turnovers.

For the last 2 games.

I haven’t watched the replay pf the QF yet, but live we didn’t look to take many risks ( i was level 1 on the wing).

  On 04/09/2022 at 09:22, JimmyGadson said:

Frankly, I'd like to see some personnel change.

We've been incredibly inconsistent for the entire second half of the year and I've remained annoyed like others that Goodwin has simply refused to blood players that have been in form at VFL. Chandler for instance. Is he the stiffest bloke going around?

What happened to rewarding form? 

I believe the club and supporters will get a kick out of changing some things up this weekend. 

Brisbane just had a debutant and look at what happened? 

I'd love to see JVR get a gig and bring Bowey and Chandler in. We need a shake up, it's just all too boring and vanilla atm and the 22 need some excitement and a rev up.

Make it happen Goodwin.

If Goody has refused to change up our personnel throughout the 2nd half of the year, then he sure as hell wont change it out of the blue for a cut throat elimination final.

Goody's stubbornness has gotten the better of him this year. Incredibly disappointing. 

If Tmac is still too risky I’d give Joel Smith a crack at Melksham’s role. 
 

The way Melksham carries himself on the field is so depressing to watch. 
 

And Bedford for ANB. 

  On 04/09/2022 at 09:38, Superunknown said:

Let us not disrespect the Lions

they will be out to win and are still a quality side with a quality coach

Yep they'll be out to burry 2 bunnies (us and the MCG) and advance to a prelim

Medical advise doesn't sound all that positive for Petracca. 

 

  On 04/09/2022 at 10:47, dazzledavey36 said:

If Goody has refused to change up our personnel throughout the 2nd half of the year, then he sure as hell wont change it out of the blue for a cut throat elimination final.

Goody's stubbornness has gotten the better of him this year. Incredibly disappointing. 

Yeah, he has his 22 and it’s ride or die.

ANB for a tall or a pressure forward in form is but a small change yet too large for those with a set mind. 

We wait for summer for change…

  On 04/09/2022 at 11:05, dazzledavey36 said:

Medical advise doesn't sound all that positive for Petracca. 

 

Remember when Fyfe tried to play thru a ‘hairline’ fracture years ago?

Didn’t end well. 
 

Petracca shouldn’t play against Brisbane. 
Bring in Dunstan. 

The only thing that the Lions have to do is apply pressure. 4 quarters of relentless pressure and then play their own style. It’s how to beat us…

  On 04/09/2022 at 10:47, dazzledavey36 said:

If Goody has refused to change up our personnel throughout the 2nd half of the year, then he sure as hell wont change it out of the blue for a cut throat elimination final.

Goody's stubbornness has gotten the better of him this year. Incredibly disappointing. 

Perhaps wait until the season's over before writing obituaries?

Goody's "stubbornness" has seen us sit inside the top 4 for 44 straight rounds and finish top 2 twice, win a flag and currently be in a semi final.

  On 04/09/2022 at 12:21, CYB said:

The only thing that the Lions have to do is apply pressure. 4 quarters of relentless pressure and then play their own style. It’s how to beat us…

Ah yes, it's so easy!

I suppose that's why we finished a lowly...*checks notes*...2nd on the ladder...

FFS, statements like this are so ridiculous. If any of the 17 sides applies "4 quarters of relentless pressure" they'll likely win. But when was the last time Brisbane did that?

  On 03/09/2022 at 04:57, titan_uranus said:

Injury clouds over Trac, Spargo, Fritsch and Melksham. 

Make no mistake. Winning it from here will be an incredible achievement. 

That’s not a cloud over Petracca, that’s a thunderstorm 

Luke Dunstan had a blinder in the reserves, surely he can backup if Tracc is out? Is there room for TMAC to come in and straighten us up? 

  On 04/09/2022 at 12:35, titan_uranus said:

Perhaps wait until the season's over before writing obituaries?

Goody's "stubbornness" has seen us sit inside the top 4 for 44 straight rounds and finish top 2 twice, win a flag and currently be in a semi final.

Ah yes, it's so easy!

I suppose that's why we finished a lowly...*checks notes*...2nd on the ladder...

FFS, statements like this are so ridiculous. If any of the 17 sides applies "4 quarters of relentless pressure" they'll likely win. But when was the last time Brisbane did that?

Why is it so ridiculous? Explain why else we lost against the Swans, cats and Pies? We cannot cope with the pressure. 
 

Whether the Lions can do it is another thing - granted - but it is plain for everyone to see, like it or not.