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  On 18/08/2022 at 12:32, kev martin said:

I see Sparrow as a protector and safety, tough to tackle, can receive a hot handball and gets out of jail. 

Shepards our main ball movers and getters, when in close.

Good sized mid.

Can run all day and still perform when exhausted. 

Usually a good kick, has the capacity to pop up when is needed and will take it on when it is his time.

Loads of potential as he learns to position himself well and deliver the ball to advantage. 

He is learning from Oliver, Trac, Brayshaw and Viney.

He has you all fooled 

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      On 19/08/2022 at 02:43, adonski said:

    He has you all fooled 

    Still has weaknesses, but fooled, no.

    Gee, you're a bit black or white.

    So it wasn't "a genuine question", you had an agenda!

    Do you see any redeeming  assets in Sparrow's game?

     

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      On 19/08/2022 at 02:48, kev martin said:

    Still has weaknesses, but fooled, no.

    Gee, you're a bit black or white.

    So it wasn't "a genuine question", you had an agenda.

    Do you see any redeeming  assets in Sparrow's game?

     

    Sparrow has weapons 

    He is a massive kick, built like a build shizen house and moves well for a guy his size 

    Unfortunately I think all of these things are irrelevant when you have: an inability to consistently find the ball, aren't clean, are a poor decision maker and have poor skills 

    He reminds me of our midfield equivalent of Weid, you'll get a really nice quarter from him once every month or so but he's ultimately a vfl player 

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      On 19/08/2022 at 02:51, adonski said:

    Unfortunately I think all of these things are irrelevant when you have: an inability to consistently find the ball, aren't clean, are a poor decision maker and have poor skills 

     

    Inconsistency and poor decision making comes with being a youngish player. This can improve and Weids has had more time in the system. I see him as a much more natural footy player than Weids. 

    Being clean comes with confidence, and I have seen him play a clean style.

    As you say, inconsistency so you also have seen some times when he does well.

    As for skills, he kicks well, though occasionally you can see he gets the jips. Handballing he sometimes appears to not be focused, takes it a bit easy and will miss his target. I have seen him with very quick hands and can be a play maker.

    Funny how we see different aspects and come to different conclusions. 

    You might be disappointed when he remains with us in the 22 for a few more seasons. 

    Give him a bit more time.

    Though I may be wrong and not you and apologise now if that becomes the case.

     

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      On 19/08/2022 at 02:51, adonski said:

    Sparrow has weapons 

    He is a massive kick, built like a build shizen house and moves well for a guy his size 

    Unfortunately I think all of these things are irrelevant when you have: an inability to consistently find the ball, aren't clean, are a poor decision maker and have poor skills 

    He reminds me of our midfield equivalent of Weid, you'll get a really nice quarter from him once every month or so but he's ultimately a vfl player 

    Ouch! Probability and potential may well lead to eating your words ...

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    Are we getting decent umpires for this big game or is tricky Gil going to sprinkle a can of maggots over the Gabba?

    From what ive seen of last weeks match the umps did ok especially the one who wasnt sucked in by a Carlton defender throwing himself onto the ground in the dying minutes of the game.

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      On 18/08/2022 at 16:10, Deemania since 56 said:

    Take your pick. I was considering a triad of players forming a pre-finals bond onfield for a specific role and this appeared to my eye to be a strengthening of best available quality for the gap that has emerged across the season we have just observed. 

    Cheers DM56! Appreciate the clarification. Concrete now ‘curing’.

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      On 19/08/2022 at 02:51, adonski said:

    Sparrow has weapons 

    He is a massive kick, built like a build shizen house and moves well for a guy his size 

    Unfortunately I think all of these things are irrelevant when you have: an inability to consistently find the ball, aren't clean, are a poor decision maker and have poor skills 

    He reminds me of our midfield equivalent of Weid, you'll get a really nice quarter from him once every month or so but he's ultimately a vfl player 

    He’s nearly there. Just trying to workout his role.  He’s not quite the onballer and not quite a goalkicking half forward.  But he nearly is. Not as much development this year from Tommy as we’d hoped. But he stepped up in the finals last year and hope he can tonight and in the finals. Keep the faith.  

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      On 19/08/2022 at 03:17, deebunked said:

    Are we getting decent umpires for this big game or is tricky Gil going to sprinkle a can of maggots over the Gabba?

    From what ive seen of last weeks match the umps did ok especially the one who wasnt sucked in by a Carlton defender throwing himself onto the ground in the dying minutes of the game.

    That was Matt Stevic, best and most senior umpire in the AFL.

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      On 19/08/2022 at 02:43, adonski said:

    He has you all fooled 

    And goody too obviously.

    God knows why we bother with a coach

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    So does Spargo end up on the wing tonight?  get him in the game?

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      On 19/08/2022 at 04:45, Demon3 said:

    So does Spargo end up on the wing tonight?  get him in the game?

    Hope not. He’s got no real pace and physically limited. He gets pushed aside too easily. Cottrell beat him twice last week in costly contests.
     But he’s smart and needed for goal setups.  His best is up to standard but he’s been poor in several games this year. He MUST be in the game tonight and imv hit the scoreboard himself. I’d like to see him kick 2 goals minimum tonight.  

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      On 19/08/2022 at 05:37, spirit of norm smith said:

    Hope not. He’s got no real pace and physically limited. He gets pushed aside too easily. Cottrell beat him twice last week in costly contests.
     But he’s smart and needed for goal setups.  His best is up to standard but he’s been poor in several games this year. He MUST be in the game tonight and imv hit the scoreboard himself. I’d like to see him kick 2 goals minimum tonight.  

    I am with you Norm, i dont want him to, but i seem to remember he played some wing at some stage this year? might be making that up. And certainly agree he needs to be involved, last week was very ordinary, 4 disposals aint it!

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      On 19/08/2022 at 05:37, spirit of norm smith said:

    Hope not. He’s got no real pace and physically limited. He gets pushed aside too easily. Cottrell beat him twice last week in costly contests.
     But he’s smart and needed for goal setups.  His best is up to standard but he’s been poor in several games this year. He MUST be in the game tonight and imv hit the scoreboard himself. I’d like to see him kick 2 goals minimum tonight.  

    Agree with most of this except I wouldn't put a goal kpi on him. Needs to get his hands on the pill more on the half forward line to hit up targets inside 50. Goals from him are a bonus in my view.

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    the sub selection could be interesting

    Dare they go with Joel Smith or will it be Jordon. Others in the mix are Chandler, Bedford and perhaps Bowey

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    Everyone is a bit touchy today.....?

    Anyway, me personally, this is a game that we should win easily.

    I think Brisbane are one of the most overrated teams in the comp. Flat track bully's who struggle when pressure and intensity hits them between the eyes. Bring our A game tonight and we'll beat them.

    How awesome would our weekend feel knowing we've secured top 4 going into the pre finals bye.

    Would be a relaxing 2 weeks....

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    We just have to bring that pressure, play our game and mark Neale out. Will take us a long way. 

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      On 19/08/2022 at 04:44, binman said:

    And goody too obviously.

    God knows why we bother with a coach

    Now you're talking my language 

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    I think Jordon is stiff to get dropped. 

    We obviously want to play Harmes on Neale and that has forced a midfield reshuffle.

    Spargo would have been the one I would have left out.

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    I'm okay with Harmes coming in for Jordon, as he and Sparrow have both underperformed for a while.

    I would love to know the KPIs that lead to Spargo being selected each week, because they clearly don't include disposals, goals, tackles, clearances or defensive accountability. The opposition's best rebounder / intercept mark is going to him at the opening bounce each week, and then basically doing as he pleases for 2 hours.

    My concern is that Spargo doesn't find enough of his own football to be dangerous, so he is highly reliant on his teammates being able to deliver the football to him in space. That's not our go at the moment, so he is really struggling to get involved.

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    Adonski=DrD, can you all pretty please stop quoting him it means I still see his merde.

    Personally I think Harmes back for Neale, might be a mistake, Fagan will have a plan.

    Still think this will be easiest of next 4 games as defence > attack, Hipwood has scars and it is not like we caught them on a bad day, they have given their best shot 3 times and come up short.

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      On 18/08/2022 at 23:22, Lord Nev said:

    Was that when I said he's purely a depth player and will never 'break out' or when I said Goody will possibly trade him?

    Obviously not paying much attention buddy.

     

    You were debating people a few months ago about bringing in Weideman and dropping Brown, but here you are mocking people for suggesting Smith. 

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      On 19/08/2022 at 08:56, John Demonic said:

    You were debating people a few months ago about bringing in Weideman and dropping Brown, but here you are mocking people for suggesting Smith. 

    You're welcome to quote any posts where I claimed Weid was a great player given that's what you said I had done.

    I'll wait.

     

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