Eddie Betts opens up on the weird camp

[tincan 171]

20 hours ago, Supermercado said:

Making Don Pyke lose his mind and walk around silently eyeballing players is one of the great, underrated MFC highlights.

Haha can't believe I had forgotten about that, thnaks for the reminder!!! Surely this is on Youtube somewhere??

[Sir Why You Little 37,474]

Imagine having Mark Riccuito as a Senior Board Member

Eddie should have sorted him out in the Carpark. 
The people responsible for framing the Template for this “Camp” should be charged and put in jail. 
The fact that this occurred 5 years ago and people within the AFL bubble still hold jobs from that time is an absolute f@&$ing disgrace 

[dazzledavey36 56,369]

9 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Imagine having Mark Riccuito as a Senior Board Member

Eddie should have sorted him out in the Carpark. 
The people responsible for framing the Template for this “Camp” should be charged and put in jail. 
The fact that this occurred 5 years ago and people within the AFL bubble still hold jobs from that time is an absolute f@&$ing disgrace 

He's an embarrassment.

[Sir Why You Little 37,474]

4 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

He's an embarrassment.

Absolutely I listened to the Sam Edmond Interview about an hour ago. It was absolutely shocking. 
The People who abused Eddie as “part of the camp” should be arrested 

That [censored] has nothing to do with leadership 

[dees189227 12,527]

So Rory Sloane said that camp made him a better husband and father. I guess everyone took a different experience out of it.

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5 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Absolutely I listened to the Sam Edmond Interview about an hour ago. It was absolutely shocking. 
The People who abused Eddie as “part of the camp” should be arrested 

That [censored] has nothing to do with leadership 

How Mark Ricciuto hasn't been asked to move on is beyond me.

He seems like an amateur hour operator selected from the bowels of the boys club.

I believe he was also trying to get in Goody's ear at the last minute in 2014 when it was clear as day that he had signed with us. Why would Goody want to get involved with a ramshackle joint like that?

Then again, Goody might have temporarily gotten Stockholm Syndrome from the time he spent at Adelaide if that military style camp he took us on in 2017 is any indication.

 

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4 minutes ago, dees189227 said:

Rory Sloane said that camp made him a better husband and father.

It's interesting that the line 'better husband and father' is the line that (reportedly) the camp made the players role play when asked about what happened at the camp

[MT64 1,148]

4 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Gill should step down over this

i am sure the AFL or AFLPA had to give some sort of approval for this “camp”

Walk away Gill your legacy isn’t that great even though the Media fawn all over you

They still want their accreditation or in effect they are "blacklisted".

[von 1,580]

8 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

When they undertake "counselling" sessions and then break the confidentiality by using someones most personal thoughts and feelings against them in front of their teammates as a form of abusing them to teach them "resilience" I'd say that crosses the line. Absolute wankers who think they know what they're doing but have no idea.

You wonder how anyone with a background in psychology, which you would hope someone from that organisation had, could draw up a program like this. We know a bit about things like trauma now and this was a recipe for exactly that.

[Demonland 74,465]

Fantastic culture at the Crows 

 

[rpfc 29,030]

46 minutes ago, dees189227 said:

So Rory Sloane said that camp made him a better husband and father. I guess everyone took a different experience out of it.

Lol. Eddie says that was the rehearsed line they fed them.

Different experiences indeed.

One person has shown leadership on this.

[BoBo 2,960]

22 hours ago, DubDee said:

Good lord! Sounds horrific

surprised they haven’t been sued yet

Workspace cleared the crows for any workplace wrongdoing, does that mean the company that ran the camp can’t be sued?

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31 minutes ago, Demonland said:

Fantastic culture at the Crows 

 

Another one who can get in the bin

[Queanbeyan Demon 7,049]

34 minutes ago, Demonland said:

Fantastic culture at the Crows 

 

Hunt, Brereton now Cornes. FMD. 

[DemonWA 3,941]

What a [censored] show of a camp. Sad thing is I think alot of clubs may have done or considered similar sorts of initiatives over the journey all in the name of getting a competitive edge. No doubt the Crows camp seems to be worse than others in this space though. I'm just glad the contributors on this site are largely mature enough to be disgusted and aren't potting Betts for being honest about his experience. 

[Mazer Rackham 14,972]

1 minute ago, DemonWA said:

What a [censored] show of a camp. Sad thing is I think alot of clubs may have done or considered similar sorts of initiatives over the journey all in the name of getting a competitive edge. No doubt the Crows camp seems to be worse than others in this space though. I'm just glad the contributors on this site are largely mature enough to be disgusted and aren't potting Betts for being honest about his experience. 

There are the camps of the ilk "whatever doesn't kill you will only make you stronger, but by god we're going to have a good crack at the first bit". That's the kind of camp our boys arced up about, as at the previous camp Dom Tyson had a backpack full of bricks fall on his head (or something like that). Faux SAS/marines stuff.

 

Then there are camps all about psychological trauma, like this Crows one. Of course a boofhead like Tex wouldn't recognise it as any different from a good boys weekend at the camp site, minus the fishing rods and eskies of booze.

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23 hours ago, Mazer Rackham said:

The camp was run by an outfit known as the "Mankind Project". For a taste of the kind of stuff that goes down at a "Mankind Project" camp, read on, dear 'lander ...

My (very) weird weekend with the naked woodland warriors who travel to remote England to 'reclaim their masculinity'

If you didn’t read this when Mazer posted it, you really should now. It’s outrageous! How these camps are allowed to go ahead is inexplicable.
 

The camp described herein sounds way worse than what the Crows players endured, unless Eddie omitted the bit where a group of naked, blindfolded men held hands while verbally abusing one another, with the objective of reclaiming their manliness. 

😳

[dazzledavey36 56,369]

The interview with Betts on AFL 360 is in incredibly to watch.

The bloke was in complete distress after the camp to the point where he went straight to the AFL immediately afterwards and voiced his concerns and yet the AFL did nothing about it.

The AFL now release a statement today acknowledging the pain that was caused. What the actual [censored]? They acknowledge it after the truth is released?

Disgusting from Gil.

[Dr. Gonzo 24,468]

33 minutes ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

If you didn’t read this when Mazer posted it, you really should now. It’s outrageous! How these camps are allowed to go ahead is inexplicable.
 

The camp described herein sounds way worse than what the Crows players endured, unless Eddie omitted the bit where a group of naked, blindfolded men held hands while verbally abusing one another, with the objective of reclaiming their manliness. 

😳

 

Edit - gifs in the same post for rpfc's benefit 😂

Edited August 3, 2022 by Dr. Gonzo

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30 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

The interview with Betts on AFL 360 is in incredibly to watch.

The bloke was in complete distress after the camp to the point where he went straight to the AFL immediately afterwards and voiced his concerns and yet the AFL did nothing about it.

The AFL now release a statement today acknowledging the pain that was caused. What the actual [censored]? They acknowledge it after the truth is released?

Disgusting from Gil.

Leading from behind as usual. 

They were all for marriage equality when enough of corporate Australia decided they wanted to expand their customer base.

They were offering unconditional apologies to Adam Goodes but only after The Final Quarter exposed the venom he was subject to.

Doesn’t surprise me that the AFL stonewalled this. It’s their MO.

Edited August 3, 2022 by Colin B. Flaubert

[Jibroni 5,068]

Sadly I think the whole situation is a massive beat up designed to sell books.

[Dr. Gonzo 24,468]

1 hour ago, von said:

You wonder how anyone with a background in psychology, which you would hope someone from that organisation had, could draw up a program like this. We know a bit about things like trauma now and this was a recipe for exactly that.

I wonder whether they actually have a formal background in psychology at all.

[Cranky Franky 2,270]

2 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Imagine having Mark Riccuito as a Senior Board Member

Eddie should have sorted him out in the Carpark. 
 

Nice work. Congratulations.

[Demon Disciple 12,538]

9 hours ago, John Crow Batty said:

As board member and from some of his past comments it appears he has some responsibility to how this debacle eventuated. Perhaps he’s one that should ‘move on’ as well.

Moved on? He should be removed more like it.

[Engorged Onion 10,226]

2 hours ago, von said:

You wonder how anyone with a background in psychology, which you would hope someone from that organisation had, could draw up a program like this. We know a bit about things like trauma now and this was a recipe for exactly that.

The use of psychologist is a protected title - much like a Dr. and is illegal to use it if you are not accredited.

Unfortunately you can't stop people using language such as - 'studied psychology'(could be a 1 semester subject vs a 6 year process) or 'have a background in psychology' , or 'mind-coach' as part of their spiel.

Further you can complete a Masters or Doctorate in Psychology, and still not be accredited by the Psychology Board of Australia/Australian Health Practitioners Regulation agency.... which doesn't cover people who claim to be mind-coaches, life coaches or counselors.

They were not psychologists.

 

Edited August 3, 2022 by Engorged Onion