Unless Goody is playing ducks and drakes it sounds like Brodie won’t be playing this week either in the forward line or as a second ruck to give Max a chop out 

In fact Goody almost intimated that he won’t be seen again unless there is an “opportunity” in the forward line - i.e. injury or loss of form to current lineup 

We all know not to take Goody’s pressers at face value, but jeez you wouldn’t be feeling too confident hearing that if you were Grundy  

Edited August 3, 20231 yr by demoncat

Gawn has missed what 3 games?, with 3 x 10 day breaks around the bye, I'm sure the club would've managed him accordingly. We only have 4 games left and then he (and everyone else) get another week off. He won't be rested, he's hit top form. They can manage his TOG also.

Edit: there you go, Goody thinks the same.

Edited August 3, 20231 yr by SFebes

Grundy won't play cause we won't want the media scrutiny of having to drop him again next week 

Edited August 3, 20231 yr by adonski

I think it's a mistake not playing Grundy - Goldstein and Xerri physically will work over Max and JVR to their detriment.

goodwin's presser definitely makes it sound like grundy is up against it to return to the senior side

It certainly doesn't sound like we're playing Grundy this week.

If North play two rucks, my concern isn't Gawn as much as it is JVR, who we're going to be asking to compete in centre bounce ruck contests against someone like Xerri. Do we really need to be throwing our most promising young KPF into ruck contests like that?

Having said that, someone has to be dropped to bring Grundy in and there's no obvious option.

  On 03/08/2023 at 04:08, titan_uranus said:

It certainly doesn't sound like we're playing Grundy this week.

If North play two rucks, my concern isn't Gawn as much as it is JVR, who we're going to be asking to compete in centre bounce ruck contests against someone like Xerri. Do we really need to be throwing our most promising young KPF into ruck contests like that?

Having said that, someone has to be dropped to bring Grundy in and there's no obvious option.

I would have managed Max this week and rucked Grundy basically the whole game.

His chop outs could be provided by JVR on boundary throw ins, in our F50.

Grundy would get a breather when the ball was in our forward line.

Echoing the above concerns about not bringing in Grundy against 2 professional rucks in Goldy and Xerri.

I'm not saying we're going to lose this game in the slightest, but the last time we played 1 ruckman vs the oppo's 2 ruckman was against Essendon which coincided with clearly our worst performance of the year. 

Having said that:

1) Port and Brisbane only play 1 ruck and Collingwood might elect to play with just the one if they don't want to continue with Cox. There's bigger fish to fry than a round 20 game in Hobart V North and worrying about 2 rucks.

2) It will be an absolute media circus if we bring in Grundy for one game just to face off with a 29 gamer in Xerri, only to once again drop him.

 

 

  

 

  On 03/08/2023 at 06:19, Bring-Back-Powell said:

 

2) It will be an absolute media circus if we bring in Grundy for one game just to face off with a 29 gamer in Xerri, only to once again drop him.

 

Who cares!  We should do what is best for us and stuff the media.

  On 02/08/2023 at 23:22, drysdale demon said:

Fair Dinkum, Grundy's mum isn't ordering him home. Jackson was out of contract, Grundy is contracted for another few years and the MFC have complete control over his future.

You seem one of the ones on this site who falls for anything that the mdia scribes come up with.

Hahaha you're funny one.

So now you use the excuse that Jackson wad out of contract? Yet, like what you're doing in this thread, you were happy to jump down anyone's throat aggressively last year who suggested he was going home.

Being contracted means absolutely nothing now days. Hundreds of players get traded while under contract in today's caper.

Though,not surprised you haven't worked this out yet..

  On 03/08/2023 at 06:25, sue said:

Who cares!  We should do what is best for us and stuff the media.

The club is doing what's best for us by keeping Grundy in the VFL. You don't flirt with form regardless of the opposition.

And I'm sure Max wouldn't accept being rested when he's fully fit and in incredible form. His competitiveness is what makes him great.

 

Edited August 3, 20231 yr by mo64

  On 03/08/2023 at 06:34, dazzledavey36 said:

Hahaha you're funny one.

So now you use the excuse that Jackson wad out of contract? Yet, like what you're doing in this thread, you were happy to jump down anyone's throat aggressively last year who suggested he was going home.

Being contracted means absolutely nothing now days. Hundreds of players get traded while under contract in today's caper.

Though,not surprised you haven't worked this out yet..

Aggresively?, all I have stated is that Grundy won't be traded. The MFC are not going to trade him, end of story.

In the unlikely event that he did ask for a trade they will hold him to his contract as he is a required player.

Feel free to believe the garbage coming out of the media and any other person who wants to throw their 2 bobs worth in, you do it well.

  On 03/08/2023 at 06:47, drysdale demon said:

Aggresively?, all I have stated is that Grundy won't be traded. The MFC are not going to trade him, end of story.

In the unlikely event that he did ask for a trade they will hold him to his contract as he is a required player.

Feel free to believe the garbage coming out of the media and any other person who wants to throw their 2 bobs worth in, you do it well.

You actually don't know that 😅

But sure, keep believing in your own fantasy world of yours.

Nah.. I haven't taken into consideration what the media say one bit. In fact I've openly said that I'll be extremely surprised if he asks for a trade.

But you can't absolutely rule it out which you've done so adamantly. It's actually silly. In this current caper any contracted player can be traded because contracts aren't worth anything now days.

If Grundy requested a trade to further better his football then the club won't stand in his way, especially if they think they'll get a semi decent compensation in return and relief cap space to go for a target that will further strengthen our playing list more then what 600k ruckman at VFL level can do.

It would be a mutual decision between club and player.

I am of the opinion that Grundy is doing ok, but the club want to get a bit more out of him. It's his first full season in a while so they are resting him and trying to poke him a little to get aggressive again so he's full speed when back.

We bought him to be a ruck. I just think we want to be efficient with interchanges. I don't think he's actually competing with petty for a spot 

  On 03/08/2023 at 07:04, dazzledavey36 said:

If Grundy requested a trade to further better his football then the club won't stand in his way, especially if they think they'll get a semi decent compensation in return and relief cap space to go for a target that will further strengthen our playing list more then what 600k ruckman at VFL level can do.

It would be a mutual decision between club and player.

As you say it has to be mutual and in this instance it wouldn't be, just as has happened to some players in recent years.

If Brodie wants to go, we should ask him to commit to 2024 with us and if he still wants to leave then we will facilitate a trade.

In terms of 2023, it is too late/risky to start trialling forward setups that include Grundy for significant periods of the game, but after a full pre-season the combination could be workable. 

I imagine his first preseason was predominantly focused on working with the midfielders, rather than as a part of the forward line (and the Essendon game showed the Grundy-backline connection was wanting).

Not sure why anyone seems to be worried about Gawn & JVR against the Roos. It seems to me like a relatively risk free opportunity to test JVR against a decent ruck opposition. Gotta find out if he’ll be up to the task against quality opposition in the finals.

I still think Grundy will have a part to play in the run at a flag.

  On 03/08/2023 at 09:32, Mach5 said:

Not sure why anyone seems to be worried about Gawn & JVR against the Roos. It seems to me like a relatively risk free opportunity to test JVR against a decent ruck opposition. Gotta find out if he’ll be up to the task against quality opposition in the finals.

I still think Grundy will have a part to play in the run at a flag.

This is a good point mate and I suspect they want to trial one ruck against two and North is the perfect time to try it, given North's ability.

Apologies if this already posted somewhere. (Brodie In)

https://www.afl.com.au/news/992852

When it was obvious that Jackson was off we made the play for Grundy

So we can either hold Grundy to his contract (my preferred view) or we trade him out and get ourselves another ruckman (which is a must because if we don't bring in another ruckman, it will be Gawn on his own with maybe 1 or 2 years of prime production left)

So unless we can get hold of another decent ruckman as back up to Gawn, I'd say we will simply declare Grundy as a required player and hold him to his contract

It's not as if Grundy is being offered an $8Million contact elsewhere like Jackson was.  That's not happening and other clubs will almost certainly want him cheap.  So why sell him cheap?  That's not good for business

He's a keeper, all things considered and as others have said, he's got a good chance of being in the team in September anyway (but not right now)

Edited August 3, 20231 yr by Macca

  On 03/08/2023 at 09:45, bush demon said:

Apologies if this already posted somewhere. (Brodie In)

https://www.afl.com.au/news/992852

Tentatively on an extended interchange, at that.

  On 03/08/2023 at 09:45, bush demon said:

Apologies if this already posted somewhere. (Brodie In)

https://www.afl.com.au/news/992852

He is neither in nor out.

He’s Schrödinger’s Brodie…

I think this is the third week in a row that Brodie has been named on the extended bench or as an emergency.

Can't imagine it's for anything other than cover for Max in case of a last minute injury or such.

  On 03/08/2023 at 10:20, rpfc said:

He’s Schrödinger’s Brodie…

I recently heard about a new young adult novel in which Schrodinger’s cat and Pavlov’s dog team up together and get into all sorts of whacky adventures.

Just the perfect birthday present for my nine year old niece I thought, and so dropped into the local bookshop to buy a copy for her.

The owner said my description rang a bell, but he wasn’t sure if it was there or not.

We should just swap him with Carlton for Williams. We need pace.