layzie 34,528 Posted September 19, 2022 Posted September 19, 2022 They should throw in Ollie Henry if they demand a 1st round pick for Grundy. Quote
Redleg 42,141 Posted September 19, 2022 Posted September 19, 2022 21 minutes ago, layzie said: They should throw in Ollie Henry if they demand a 1st round pick for Grundy. Wants to play with his brother at Geelong. He will be the Rohan replacement. 1 Quote
Nascent 9,345 Posted September 19, 2022 Posted September 19, 2022 Seems we will have significant negotiating power if they want to get all their other deals done. 2 Quote
Lord Nev 13,512 Posted September 19, 2022 Posted September 19, 2022 2 minutes ago, Redleg said: Wants to play with his brother at Geelong. He will be the Rohan replacement. 1 1 Quote
DubDee 26,667 Posted September 19, 2022 Posted September 19, 2022 43 minutes ago, Lord Nev said: “I expect Jordan De Goey to stay. But obviously they’re aiming to get [Dan] McStay…[Billy] Frampton in as well as Bobby Hill. “That all hinges on a very important decision concerning Brodie Grundy. “Grundy’s got his exit interview over the next couple of days… I expect - at least formally - he’ll request a trade to Melbourne." So they get rid of a dual AA and dual BnF winner in Grundy who signed a 7 year deal just 2 years ago and bring in 3 average players? Who is the list manager there?! what a shambles. Quote
DubDee 26,667 Posted September 19, 2022 Posted September 19, 2022 13 minutes ago, Lord Nev said: They talk about Geelong like it's in QLD. It's closer than Casey is to Melbourne FFS! 3 3 Quote
JimmyGadson 3,455 Posted September 19, 2022 Posted September 19, 2022 (edited) 12 minutes ago, DubDee said: So they get rid of a dual AA and dual BnF winner in Grundy who signed a 7 year deal just 2 years ago and bring in 3 average players? Who is the list manager there?! what a shambles. Well two years after the Treloar fiasco they were 1 point away from a GF so it can't be that bad. And with Grundy gone for them, they'll have further room for exploration and the ability to retain some other players. Bad calls at the time of both Treloar and Grundy's deals but it's hard to fault their ability to rebound. Their list is in a very good spot. Edited September 19, 2022 by JimmyGadson 11 1 Quote
old dee 24,080 Posted September 19, 2022 Posted September 19, 2022 More commentator speculation. Most have no more idea than you and I. In fact most probably get their melb. News from here. 1 Quote
Bring-Back-Powell 15,529 Posted September 19, 2022 Posted September 19, 2022 If we end up getting Grundy, I hope we get the 2019 model. 23 brownlow votes including back-back-back 3 vote games. Had games of 25 possessions/8 marks/2 goals/ 50 hitouts/ 3 brownlow votes. Elite. 3 Quote
Kent 2,920 Posted September 19, 2022 Posted September 19, 2022 2 hours ago, layzie said: They should throw in Ollie Henry if they demand a 1st round pick for Grundy. Why would we offer any significant pick for Grundy? Make the pies sweat! 4 Quote
Kent 2,920 Posted September 19, 2022 Posted September 19, 2022 56 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said: If we end up getting Grundy, I hope we get the 2019 model. 23 brownlow votes including back-back-back 3 vote games. Had games of 25 possessions/8 marks/2 goals/ 50 hitouts/ 3 brownlow votes. Elite. That model now has more miles on the clock, has lost a little speed and has dents allover it! 2 4 Quote
layzie 34,528 Posted September 19, 2022 Posted September 19, 2022 1 hour ago, Kent said: Why would we offer any significant pick for Grundy? Make the pies sweat! That's definitely what I'd prefer but if they insist then I'm open to extracting more value out of them. Quote
Demon Disciple 12,529 Posted September 19, 2022 Posted September 19, 2022 6 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said: I wonder if Gawn received a free kick for holding in this ruck contest?……………I doubt it 1 1 Quote
DeeSpencer 26,667 Posted September 19, 2022 Posted September 19, 2022 7 hours ago, DubDee said: So they get rid of a dual AA and dual BnF winner in Grundy who signed a 7 year deal just 2 years ago and bring in 3 average players? Who is the list manager there?! what a shambles. It’s simple for the Pies. Cameron and McStay is a far better combination than Grundy and Cameron. Mostly because Cameron is equal to if not better than what we can expect from Grundy. But also because key forwards are more important and harder to find than rucks. Not convinced by Hill, Frampton, Fiorini or Mitchell but they’re future proofing their list for Pendles, Howe, Sidebottom all going. I wish we were doing the same thing, dumping an overpaid experienced player and finding a good crop of useful role players that fix weaknesses. 1 1 Quote
adonski 13,235 Posted September 19, 2022 Posted September 19, 2022 6 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said: It’s simple for the Pies. Cameron and McStay is a far better combination than Grundy and Cameron. Mostly because Cameron is equal to if not better than what we can expect from Grundy. But also because key forwards are more important and harder to find than rucks. Not convinced by Hill, Frampton, Fiorini or Mitchell but they’re future proofing their list for Pendles, Howe, Sidebottom all going. I wish we were doing the same thing, dumping an overpaid experienced player and finding a good crop of useful role players that fix weaknesses. You are giving the Pies too much credit. They'll come back to the pack next season. 4 Quote
Hellaintabadplacetobe 4,335 Posted September 19, 2022 Posted September 19, 2022 I should feel enthused that we are about to land one of the great ruckmen of the modern era....but I don't! I just don't get how him and Gawn combo will work! Quote
DeeSpencer 26,667 Posted September 19, 2022 Posted September 19, 2022 5 minutes ago, adonski said: You are giving the Pies too much credit. They'll come back to the pack next season. They might, but it won’t be because they’ve swapped Grundy for McStay. 1 Quote
Adam The God 30,706 Posted September 19, 2022 Posted September 19, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, adonski said: You are giving the Pies too much credit. They'll come back to the pack next season. In a big way IMO. Teams will go to town on their aggressive run it through the corridor and kick it to CHF. There's a reason they gave up big scores this year, repeatedly to ordinary teams too. If you take the corridor away from them or can win ground ball or intercept at CHF, they're extremely vulnerable to slingshot goals. Everything went perfectly for them this year. An easy draw from 17th, multiple close finishes and a game plan that teams didn't have enough time to adjust for. Plus a huge wave of momentum. But that will change next year. I reckon they'll be fighting it out for a top 6 spot. Edited September 19, 2022 by A F 6 Quote
DubDee 26,667 Posted September 19, 2022 Posted September 19, 2022 40 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said: It’s simple for the Pies. Cameron and McStay is a far better combination than Grundy and Cameron. Mostly because Cameron is equal to if not better than what we can expect from Grundy. But also because key forwards are more important and harder to find than rucks. Not convinced by Hill, Frampton, Fiorini or Mitchell but they’re future proofing their list for Pendles, Howe, Sidebottom all going. I wish we were doing the same thing, dumping an overpaid experienced player and finding a good crop of useful role players that fix weaknesses. Wish we were doing the same thing? Putting players on 7 year deals and then changing our minds 2 years later. Lol 1 1 Quote
DubDee 26,667 Posted September 19, 2022 Posted September 19, 2022 37 minutes ago, adonski said: You are giving the Pies too much credit. They'll come back to the pack next season. Completely agree. From a bottom 4 fixture to a top 4 fixture. Credit to them on a great season but they rode so much emotion in the last couple of months. Steele and Pendles will continue to slow up. im looking forward to seeing them come back to mid table next year 1 Quote
DubDee 26,667 Posted September 19, 2022 Posted September 19, 2022 33 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said: They might, but it won’t be because they’ve swapped Grundy for McStay. If they have McStay on 650k they still be paying almost a mill including Grundy. Madness. Are they still paying Treloars wages? 1 Quote
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