Goldstein?

He would be on top of the list, although l think he stays at norf

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5 minutes ago, BDA said:

I don't know who else is available but I wouldn't want to spend a first round pick on a second ruckman

Our current second ruckman could net 2, so buying a better ruckman for half that price seems pretty reasonable.

Having said that, there is no reason this deal would warrant a first rounder if Collingwood are actually dumping his salary

11 minutes ago, Demons1858 said:

Goldstein?

He would be on top of the list, although l think he stays at norf

Goldstein is 34. So perfect for Geelong.

Flynn (24 y.o), or Briggs (22 y.o) from GWS. They are pretty well stocked with those 2 and Preuss. 

Surely one of them would appreciate more opportunity, and playing with a better team.

Both have shown some ability to take a contested mark / kick a goal, in their short careers thus far, on top of basic competent ruck craft. 
 

Edited August 10, 20222 yr by 1964_2

Wasn’t the long term contract Eddy got Grundy to sign supposed to keep him a magpie for life?

Imagine what Grundy must now be thinking when, with 5 years left, he’s told to look elsewhere! Particularly when it’s essentially a f- wit like de Goey that the pies seem to want to keep in preference to him.

26 minutes ago, 1964_2 said:

Flynn (24 y.o), or Briggs (22 y.o) from GWS. They are pretty well stocked with those 2 and Preuss. 

Surely one of them would appreciate more opportunity, and playing with a better team.

Both have shown some ability to take a contested mark / kick a goal, in their short careers thus far, on top of basic competent ruck craft. 
 

They are contracted aren't they? If contracted players aren't moving then what do you do?

57 minutes ago, Neil Crompton said:

Goldstein?

Goldstein is 404 years old, otherwise I'm with you. 

5 minutes ago, A F said:

Goldstein is 404 years old, otherwise I'm with you. 

I think he was in the first Millenia team of the century.

5 hours ago, david_neitz_is_my_dad said:

I see it more as him doing most of the ruck whilst Gawn spend more time forward

Goodwins interview today sounds like he does too.

Does anyone know what his contract is with Collingwood? What are currently the dollars to be paid over the next 5 years?

2 hours ago, Bates Mate said:

I think him and Langdon would be besties

For sure he knows the words to ‘This Is Me’, I actually think he’d get along with the list. We are not building, we are hot now, the next four years is our sweet spot. We are a contest based side with Oliver, Tracy, Viney, Sparrow who deserve a matching ruck; and I think Grundy would be great for the defensive structures as well. He is however not a KPF and that is what we are all balding about.

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Deleted a redundant word

5 minutes ago, DEE fence said:

For sure he knows the words to ‘This Is Me’

What about "Freed From Desire"?

2 minutes ago, Demonstone said:

What about "Freed From Desire"?

After the ‘23 premiership.

12 minutes ago, djr said:

Does anyone know what his contract is with Collingwood? What are currently the dollars to be paid over the next 5 years?

Without seeing a Collingwood balance sheet it's hard to tell. Someone more in the know could have a punt on the  percentages each year but it's a long bow. 

19 minutes ago, djr said:

Does anyone know what his contract is with Collingwood? What are currently the dollars to be paid over the next 5 years?

It's widely reported as being  $1M per year for 7 years of which this is the second year

I would have thought the ruck situation is less of an issue if we get someone like Meek from Freo as part of the Jackson trade (if it were to go ahead).  He would be behind Jackson and Darcy - arguably the two best rucks under 25 in the game.

Sure if we can get Grundy cheaply (in salary and trade wise) but otherwise I'm not convinced  he's the answer.  Shouldn't we be throwing the kitchen sink at a gun key forward instead?

To get the Treloar deal done the Pies made it known they would pay $300k of his $900k salary for five years.

If you could get them to pay $400k of his $1M  Grundy could fit money wise for us

I think Goldstein is a much lower risk recruit. He is a better forward than Grundy and not on a ridiculous contract.

Jack Silvani would be another option to go for to play second ruck. Getting dropped to sub showed he wasn’t considered to be in the best 22. 

If Gawn is to play forward we need a game plan that involves him handing off every time to a player coming past for every shot between 1m out to 50m out. 
The invention of the dual player shot for goal strategy.

Grundy buys Gawn 2 maybe 3 more seasons. It gives us time to develop another young ruck (could possibly be Jeff White’s kid who I believe is now 16) and means we are not losing much ruck strength with Jackson leaving. 
 

I would only do it if it costs us peanuts both in terms of picks and salary. 

13 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

Grundy buys Gawn 2 maybe 3 more seasons. It gives us time to develop another young ruck (could possibly be Jeff White’s kid who I believe is now 16) and means we are not losing much ruck strength with Jackson leaving. 
 

I would only do it if it costs us peanuts both in terms of picks and salary. 

I dont necessarily understnd this. Isnt a KPF also quite an intense role, especially given our game style. Cant see it extending his career tbh.

I must admit, he looks quite dapper in red & blue...

3 minutes ago, CYB said:

I dont necessarily understnd this. Isnt a KPF also quite an intense role, especially given our game style. Cant see it extending his career tbh.

Ruck is the most physically demanding role there is. Gawn gets absolutely smashed in there and 99 out of 100 times it’s play on. 
Given he’s had 3 knee recos, there is no doubt that playing FF will absolutely extend his career. Plenty of FF retire in their mid 30s. Look at Kennedy and Hawkins. 

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2 minutes ago, R.I.P. Troy said:

I must admit, he looks quite dapper in red & blue...

Who doesn’t?

26 minutes ago, Demon Disciple said:

Who doesn’t?

De Goey.

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