POSTGAME: Rd 17 vs Geelong

[Bates Mate 4,049]

2 minutes ago, Lord Travis said:

Two obvious changes to start with.

Chandler had 29 disposals and 5 goals last week. We should have rewarded his great form. He should come in for Bedford, who has had two poor games since the Lions game. 

Bowey has had no impact on games for a while now. We’ve also struggled with stopping ground balls and linking play in our defensive 50. Fine in the air, terrible otherwise. Hunt should come in for Bowey to help lockdown. Not as polished on offense, but infinitely better at defending. We’ve got Salem and Gus to rebound as is.

Agree on bowey been down for over a month. Rivers or Hunt can play taller and handle smalls. Disagree on Chandler had a great game against VFL players not AFL listed players playing VFL and only one game. Bedford has shown more at AFL level , although after tonight's performances I'd be happy to drop either Bedford or Spargo who were awful

 

[640MD 3,082]

I will read all of this tomorrow I promise but at least any pressure that would have been there during the fun AVB lad had home.   We will not be undefeated in the Tim to the flag

 

wd have learnings to learn.   Go dees

[Dr. Gonzo 22,786]

19 minutes ago, wheaters31 said:

What could've been?....

The Kozzy miss.....

The Fritsch dribble with Langdon free.....

The Bedford fumble when he was off and away.....

The umpires not calling below the knees against Rohan on Jackson which nearly broke his leg....

The JJ holding the ball.....

The free to May that wasn't when Hawkins tackled him to the ground and then Hawkins snaps a goal at the next stoppage.

People are making out like it was a diabolical performance. It wasn't. We were a bit off and it showed from the first bounce. May was off all game. We tried to work our way back into it but couldn't get our noses in front and they had the answers when it counted.

You could tell this meant a lot to them after r23 and the Prelim last year and they really set up around the contests to stifle us and worked our talls under the ball so they couldn't take contested marks. Well played and coached by them but I'm not giving up on the season on that performance. Plenty on here prepared to jump off at the first hurdle, get a grip!

[dazzledavey36 49,739]

Just now, 640MD said:

I will read all of this tomorrow I promise but at least any pressure that would have been there during the fun AVB lad had home.   We will not be undefeated in the Tim to the flag

 

wd have learnings to learn.   Go dees

What

[Dr. Gonzo 22,786]

23 minutes ago, CYB said:

So where has he been for the past 4 weeks? He is a mile off it.

Was one of our best last week.

[Tom Dyson 1,544]

Some observations, 

Plenty were culprits but vines and harmes in particular kept trying to break tackles when it just wasn't working. An extension of this point was that every dees player thought they had a lot more time and space than they did, some efforts looked very lackadaisical when the players should all of known how hot the contest was. 

Bombing inside forward 50 DOES NOT WORK, this problem continues to persist and I'm not sure why we havent seen a tangible difference in this area.

Complete inability to win clearance and smashed at stoppages. This is our bread and butter and yet geelong always had the spread or outlet handball, it was really frustrating when this persisted throughout the whole game and we never covered their spread. 

Small forwards were all pretty much non-factors and when they had a chance to assert themselves on the game, kozzy's missed goal, bedford spending it before he had it, spargo kicking the ball to the one geelong player surrounded by 4 dees players. ANB was the one small that showed one iota of chase and intensity and even then he was far from the ANB we all know. 

Steven had to be sick or injured because there is no way on god's green earth, he is playing that badly fully fit. did someone spike his pre-game red bull because I was lost for words at his performance. 

As is usually the case, the team with the better bottom 6 gets the win, sparrow, jordon, bowey, bedford, kozzy, spargs just so far off it. 

Max and Luke looked underdone, both weren't quite themselves. 

Fitness looks a far-cry from what burgo built last year, collectively as a fan base we went from knowing we would run over the oppo in the last to being unsure whether or not we would make it through the last. 

Just so many bad individual performances and not how a Melbourne game should look, big week on the training track please.  

[Antioch 194]

We were always going to lose this game. In Geelong. With a rabid Geelong crowd. Revenge for last year. Cold. Gawn and Jackson underdone. Their July Grand Final.  
Wait till September. 
They’ll be our b1tche$.

[DemonWA 3,630]

James Harmes appreciation post. 

Edited July 7, 2022 by DemonWA
Original post was a duplicate!

[fr_ap 2,244]

18 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

If we lose the next 6 games i will be worried, but we won’t 

September is still in the distance. No need to peak early 

Between Rounds 12-18 last year we were fairly ordinary….

I'm not sure why this keeps being mentioned. It's a different year, with different opponents, in different places, played by players who will feel different, act different and be different to last year.

Do you go to work, check your calendar from last year and conclude on what's in store for this year? 

I appreciate there are loading & tapering profiles but to believe that's the difference pays no respect to the opposition. 

Geelong have improved and have added speed and pressure around their well established litany of senior seasoned stars. It's not going to take a lot for them to fire. 

We were comprehensively beaten (this ground or any other) and thats the only way to view the game. I see zero value to comparing it to a game against the Bulldogs a year ago, in front of no crowd, at our home ground. I'm sure we had a different, equally valid excuse at the time...

[wizardinoz 2,159]

Before the game Goody said that Max & Jacko were jumping out of their skins ready to play. Sheesh, over trained maybe? Both were flat as buggery.

[D4Life 2,307]

Demons were ordinary and Cats on fire!

If same happens in finals we lose!

But it’s July, at Geelong, Cats showed their hand!

FFS sky is falling supporters just chill!

[Lord Nev 13,512]

3 minutes ago, wizardinoz said:

Before the game Goody said that Max & Jacko were jumping out of their skins ready to play. Sheesh, over trained maybe? Both were flat as buggery.

Or maybe Goody plays a straight bat in pressers...

[Gawndy the Great 7,964]

If we are going to persist with kicking it down the line, can we at least setup for the likely spoil?

Better yet, recruit a KPF who can take a contested grab or cause a spillage. 

[dazzledavey36 49,739]

3 minutes ago, wizardinoz said:

Before the game Goody said that Max & Jacko were jumping out of their skins ready to play. Sheesh, over trained maybe? Both were flat as buggery.

Eek..

Gawn could barely get off the ground. 

[darkhorse72 1,782]

Narrow ground retarded some of our normal ball movement patterns, evident from the high number of out of bounds we kicked. 

Also skills and lots of slipping, was it extremely greasy on the night.  As the clean ball handling was missing and this extra few seconds bought us pressure. And bay did we slip a lot all over the ground, often at the wrong moment. 

[binman 39,466]

That was God awful.

Paid $90 for a crap seat in a glorified shelter shed, and the dees serve that up.

They smashed us. 

[Seraph 1,728]

1 minute ago, binman said:

That was God awful.

Paid $90 for a crap seat in a glorified shelter shed, and the dees serve that up.

They smashed us. 

Paying that much to watch a game in Geelong is probably on you.

[picket fence 15,735]

1 hour ago, Demon Disciple said:

At least put one of them up forward for a different dynamic.

Sparrow, Pickett and Spargo should all be dropped for their inept games.

Add BEDFORD and as I stated Mitch Brown Dropped after kicking a couple was a HUGE error in judgment!

[praha 10,552]

Neither team was that flash. On the MCG I think we win that. We played that ground terribly and only in flashes did we look good and SURPRISE SURPRISE it was when we did the switch and used the corridor. We constantly went to the flanks and the Cats just gobble that up there. The club needs to grow a pair and actually request we don't play there for a few years. Give us an extra game in NSW or SA if you have to. Send Collingwood down there for once in their [censored] existence. 

3 minutes ago, binman said:

That was God awful.

Paid $90 for a crap seat in a glorified shelter shed, and the dees serve that up.

They smashed us. 

From when I first went down there in the 90s I promised to never again head down there. They inflate prices and basically price out opposition supporters, and they're laughing at anyone silly enough to fork out for a seat there.

[BenJamin on Deesy St 792]

52 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

For all our failures, we worked so hard to get it back to a goal difference at the start of the last, but Pickett's miss, Fritsch's miss, then Bedford fumbling when he had the entire forward half empty in front of him killed our momentum and they got their tails up.

Thought exactly the same thing at the time. They were three key moments. We failed in all three and paid the price.

I love the German but I was disappointed in Fritsch’s game tonight. Inaccurate, made a couple of poor decisions ball in hand and showed - not for the first time - some selfishness in front of goal.

And a shout out to the Cats’ couple who refused to shuffle along one seat so I could sit next to my daughter. And to the old gentleman in front of me who spat out on the siren with glee, “Enjoy the trip home!”. Thanks very much, feline fiends of Mordor. Not a happy place for us.

[Deestar9 1,431]

6 minutes ago, Seraph said:

Paying that much to watch a game in Geelong is probably on you.

That’s a crap comment .,I’d say congratulations on being a diehard Melb supporter…

[Dr. Gonzo 22,786]

5 minutes ago, Ben E said:

Thought exactly the same thing at the time. They were three key moments. We failed in all three and paid the price.

I love the German but I was disappointed in Fritsch’s game tonight. Inaccurate, made a couple of poor decisions ball in hand and showed - not for the first time - some selfishness in front of goal.

And a shout out to the Cats’ couple who refused to shuffle along one seat so I could sit next to my daughter. And to the old gentleman in front of me who spat out on the siren with glee, “Enjoy the trip home!”. Thanks very much, feline fiends of Mordor. Not a happy place for us.

Feral scum from a feral wasteland

Edited July 7, 2022 by Dr. Gonzo

[praha 10,552]

5 minutes ago, Deestar9 said:

That’s a crap comment .,I’d say congratulations on being a diehard Melb supporter…

Nah, Geelong is laughing at anyone paying that for a ticket at that stadium. $90 gets you premium seating and a meal at the MCG. They're taking the [censored]. 

[KysaiahMessiah 725]

1 hour ago, Jontee said:

and Spargo.....

He played?

[fr_ap 2,244]

6 minutes ago, Ben E said:

Thought exactly the same thing at the time. They were three key moments. We failed in all three and paid the price.

I love the German but I was disappointed in Fritsch’s game tonight. Inaccurate, made a couple of poor decisions ball in hand and showed - not for the first time - some selfishness in front of goal.

And a shout out to the Cats’ couple who refused to shuffle along one seat so I could sit next to my daughter. And to the old gentleman in front of me who spat out on the siren with glee, “Enjoy the trip home!”. Thanks very much, feline fiends of Mordor. Not a happy place for us.

They're an awful bunch there truly. Extremely precious about their seats, how much noise you make etc - they're so used to having 95% of the crowd that it seems to personally offend them if you cheer for the other team