On 03/10/2022 at 10:35, Kick_It_To_Pickett said:

Which one of the blokes you mentioned plays Harmes’ role? 

I don’t like these moves and I don’t like our young players for immediate help next year (Turner, JvR aside). But Chandler and Laurie will have to play at least some midfield time to make it at afl level, they’re 5th mid options. ANB could also be retrained as a mid too, his run would give us a point of difference we need there. Skills doesn’t help but he might be ready for that.

Hunter could be cheap wing cover. 

If we snag a top 10 pick they might be ready to go for class on a forward flank. Maybe.

  On 03/10/2022 at 10:49, DeeSpencer said:

I don’t like these moves and I don’t like our young players for immediate help next year (Turner, JvR aside). But Chandler and Laurie will have to play at least some midfield time to make it at afl level, they’re 5th mid options. ANB could also be retrained as a mid too, his run would give us a point of difference we need there. Skills doesn’t help but he might be ready for that.

Hunter could be cheap wing cover. 

If we snag a top 10 pick they might be ready to go for class on a forward flank. Maybe.

ANB as a midfielder …that’s a 😂.. bloke would fumble the ball constantly in that much traffic. 

  On 03/10/2022 at 10:50, Kick_It_To_Pickett said:

ANB as a midfielder …that’s a 😂.. bloke would fumble the ball constantly in that much traffic. 

Maybe, maybe not. He’s physically mature now and could get cleaner in congestion with the practice. Midfields a more predictable form of traffic too compared to the half forward pinch point. 

  On 03/10/2022 at 10:56, DeeSpencer said:

Maybe, maybe not. He’s physically mature now and could get cleaner in congestion with the practice. Midfields a more predictable form of traffic too compared to the half forward pinch point. 

Please!

Edited October 3, 20222 yr by Redleg

I don't see it other than the occasional push up

  On 03/10/2022 at 09:49, Travy14 said:

I do think Brayshaw can play the lock down mid role if we need it in a game.  

Didn’t work v Neale in the finals !! Gus can play wing or half back but should never be a tagger

  On 03/10/2022 at 10:56, DeeSpencer said:

Maybe, maybe not. He’s physically mature now and could get cleaner in congestion with the practice. Midfields a more predictable form of traffic too compared to the half forward pinch point. 

Nope I don’t think he has the required awareness or skill to play in the midfield. 

  On 03/10/2022 at 12:12, spirit of norm smith said:

Didn’t work v Neale in the finals !! Gus can play wing or half back but should never be a tagger

He didn't lock down on him, just manned up on him.  Harmes has also had games where his tag opponent has dominated too

  On 03/10/2022 at 12:13, CYB said:

Nope I don’t think he has the required awareness or skill to play in the midfield. 

he pretty much plays a midfield role now, but an outside mid.  He just need to make a few better decisions, like stop taking on tacklers when your 80kg ringing wet.

but not going to ever be an inside mid

  On 03/10/2022 at 12:17, Travy14 said:

he pretty much plays a midfield role now, but an outside mid.  He just need to make a few better decisions, like stop taking on tacklers when your 80kg ringing wet.

but not going to ever be an inside mid

I'm not suggesting it's a full time role, but who would've had Blicavs, Guthrie and Atkins forming the basis of the Cats premiership midfield a few years back? Plus ANB was getting rotations on ball at the start of 2021 in particular.

One thing we really need to do next year is rotate bigger numbers through the midfield especially early in the season so the big guns aren't tired out by the end of the year. 

If we want to foster a culture of ongoing player development then I'd love to challenge ANB to earn 5 minutes a quarter on ball. It might actually help him make quick decisions and stop trying nonsense like his attempted fends on far bigger players!

Interesting article

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/grundy-to-take-pay-cut-when-he-signs-with-demons-20221003-p5bmvw.html

 

Collingwood’s All-Australian ruckman Brodie Grundy has signalled that he will take a pay cut when he becomes a Melbourne player in the coming days.

Collingwood want a pick inside 25 for the 2018-19 All-Australian. He had signed a seven-year deal (before he became a free agent) in 2020 that would pay him an average between $920,000-$950,000 with the Demons picking up the lion’s share of the five-year deal, which is understood to be lower in the final two years.

Also

Melbourne have out-of-contract forward Toby Bedford, who has asked to be traded to GWS. Discussions on Monday centred around a deal for a pick in the third round.

The Demons could also potentially offer Bedford and their pick 33 to GWS for pick 21, an exchange that would bring in a suitable pick to do the Grundy deal.

 

More information in the article but thought these bits were particularly interesting.

Edited October 3, 20222 yr by Nascent

  On 03/10/2022 at 12:27, DeeSpencer said:

I'm not suggesting it's a full time role, but who would've had Blicavs, Guthrie and Atkins forming the basis of the Cats premiership midfield a few years back? Plus ANB was getting rotations on ball at the start of 2021 in particular.

One thing we really need to do next year is rotate bigger numbers through the midfield especially early in the season so the big guns aren't tired out by the end of the year. 

If we want to foster a culture of ongoing player development then I'd love to challenge ANB to earn 5 minutes a quarter on ball. It might actually help him make quick decisions and stop trying nonsense like his attempted fends on far bigger players!

Yup i agree with you too,

i think it will be Sparrow, Chandler(if he takes Harmes role) and Viney that take up the rotation.  the the likes of ANB and Kossie that get a little bit.  Ideally though you want the big dogs in there when the whips are cracking.

 

  On 03/10/2022 at 12:32, Nascent said:

The Demons could also potentially offer Bedford and their pick 33 to GWS for pick 21, an exchange that would bring in a suitable pick to do the Grundy deal.

Someone tried to give me s#%t, for suggesting this exact scenario

Edited October 3, 20222 yr by Matt

  On 03/10/2022 at 07:41, DeeMee said:

Agree. He also said Weid not moving to another club

weid should've gone to the club and asked them if they had heard the names esava ratugolea or billy frampton. 

having listened to the lamb interview and their acceptance that tommo was allowed to go if he can find a suitor it opens up an interesting few options, have we seen someone around the comp to bring in as depth or at vfl level who is cheaper, remembering we do trust smith to play 2nd tall regularly and turner is in favour too so 5 key defenders is possibly too many for balance.

but what does weid do well, jump at packs and not get out marked. what does weid do poorly - run to good positions, actually hold onto marks. as a key defender he can just aimlessly follow his opposition to the ball and just knuckle the thing wherever he pleases. he will easily find himself back at league level either with us or elsewhere in future if he does this

  On 03/10/2022 at 10:56, DeeSpencer said:

Maybe, maybe not. He’s physically mature now and could get cleaner in congestion with the practice. Midfields a more predictable form of traffic too compared to the half forward pinch point. 

More the point, if nibbler was a mid he wouldn't be redlining at every contest.

  On 03/10/2022 at 10:35, Kick_It_To_Pickett said:

Which one of the blokes you mentioned plays Harmes’ role? 

Probably none of them, but I would assume the likes of Jordon and Sparrow might and Viney might do more run with roles if we decide to do any of that next year. 
 

I am personally happy if Harmes stays but it feels like the club is pushing his move out. 

  On 03/10/2022 at 19:10, ANG13 said:

Probably none of them, but I would assume the likes of Jordon and Sparrow might and Viney might do more run with roles if we decide to do any of that next year. 
 

I am personally happy if Harmes stays but it feels like the club is pushing his move out. 

Probably. I think the club is ready for Sparrow and Jordon to cover for Harmes contribution. This combined with Brayshaw getting more midfield time will just push Harmes down the pecking order.

Still holding out hope that we are letting these players go to get salary space for Bowes and pick 7 but haven't read much about this recently.

  On 03/10/2022 at 19:19, BAMF said:

Probably. I think the club is ready for Sparrow and Jordon to cover for Harmes contribution. This combined with Brayshaw getting more midfield time will just push Harmes down the pecking order.

Still holding out hope that we are letting these players go to get salary space for Bowes and pick 7 but haven't read much about this recently.

As sad as it would be to see these guys go that scenario would be worth it 

Tarryn Thomas is “wrestling“ with handing in a trade request at North Melbourne

If he does, would we expect interest from the Dees??? Clearly a talent but from the outside, work ethic is to be considered!! 

  On 03/10/2022 at 12:32, Nascent said:

Interesting article

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/grundy-to-take-pay-cut-when-he-signs-with-demons-20221003-p5bmvw.html

 

Collingwood’s All-Australian ruckman Brodie Grundy has signalled that he will take a pay cut when he becomes a Melbourne player in the coming days.

Collingwood want a pick inside 25 for the 2018-19 All-Australian. He had signed a seven-year deal (before he became a free agent) in 2020 that would pay him an average between $920,000-$950,000 with the Demons picking up the lion’s share of the five-year deal, which is understood to be lower in the final two years.

Also

Melbourne have out-of-contract forward Toby Bedford, who has asked to be traded to GWS. Discussions on Monday centred around a deal for a pick in the third round.

The Demons could also potentially offer Bedford and their pick 33 to GWS for pick 21, an exchange that would bring in a suitable pick to do the Grundy deal.

 

More information in the article but thought these bits were particularly interesting.

Collingwood supporters are dirty on this lol

  On 03/10/2022 at 21:23, dazzledavey36 said:

Collingwood supporters are dirty on this lol

Understandable:

• Collingwood will pay Grundy not to play for Collingwood.
• Grundy himself will pay not to play for Collingwood.

  On 03/10/2022 at 10:35, Kick_It_To_Pickett said:

Which one of the blokes you mentioned plays Harmes’ role? 

The high half forward role and defensive mid role? That'd be Sparrow.

If it's the little bit of wing Harmes played, then hopefully it's a Tarryn Thomas or at a pinch Lachie Hunter.

  On 03/10/2022 at 21:23, dazzledavey36 said:

Collingwood supporters are dirty on this lol

Imagine being a Collingwood list manager when this deal gets done. You would feel like a goose.

See Anthony Mcdonald Tipungwuti has put his hand back up. Wants to go to Freo. 

Would we take hunter for Tomlinson?

hunter fits need for us on the wing yet Tomlinson is depth .. do we take a player we sort of need over a player who might not get a game again for us