Petty up forward?

[tallstuey 35]

With people like Tomlinson and Hunt ready to step in to the backline, am I the only deluded soul that thinks it might be time to try Harrisob Petty in the forward line again for a few games?

[whatwhat say what 22,772]

haven't we gone over this umpteen dozen times on this board?

our entire successful structure is predicated on the tall triumvirate of may - lever - petty being in place down back

the coaching dept is, quite right, not going to mess with a good thing

[GCDee 3,199]

Goody spoke in a recent presser how great it is to finally have continuity in the back line specifically regarding May, Lever and Petty. 

I'd say there is very little chance this happens.

 

 

Edited July 4, 2022 by GCDee
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[layzie 33,814]

I'd love to see a stint up forward someday but the desire to keep the defensive structure as is trumps all. 

[dazzledavey36 54,947]

I've always been in the camp that we leave Petty down back because how valuable he is.

Right now though, our forward structure is not working. Don't think shifting Petty up forward against Geelong is a good move considering he'll most likely take Cameron.

I'd probably look at the move once Turner is available to play. I've lost confidence in Tomlinson after he got smashed by Sam Reid.

Can only give it a go right?

[forever demons 2,220]

No.If its not broken dont fix it

[Bring-Back-Powell 14,845]

I love our defence and I love Petty in defence. So I wouldn't move him.

We just have to hope that our outstanding defence and outstanding midfield is enough (to win a flag) to offset our average forward line. 

We've averaged 106 points in the last fortnight so things aren't that dire up forward.

[Lucifers Hero 39,837]

Tomlinson really blotted his copy book on Reid vs Sydney.  Was all at sea.  Sulked each time Reid beat him.  Hasn't stood out at Casey since.  He will only be depth.

I wouldn't be surprised if he (OOC 2023) gets a chat along the lines of:  'we are not sure what the future holds re senior games so you might like to look for new opportunities this year'.

iirc he came on a very good $ package so it would free up cap space for next year's contract renewals.

On Petty:  He is a defender.  He is May's understudy.  Leave him there. 

[dazzledavey36 54,947]

1 minute ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

I love our defence and I love Petty in defence. So I wouldn't move him.

We just have to hope that our outstanding defence and outstanding midfield is enough (to win a flag) to offset our average forward line. 

We've averaged 106 points in the last fortnight so things aren't that dire up forward.

Which we certainly can.

Doggies won a flag with no genuine top line key forward in 2016.

Richmond won a flag in 2017 with Jack Riewoldt and Josh Caddy as their two key forwards believe it or not.

If Ben Brown can at least get back into some form then I think we'll be okay. Just need a chop put from Gawn/Jackson and even Weideman to step up as well.

[dee-tox 4,835]

The idea in isolation has merit. However, if you take Petty out of defence and then you need a tall, aerially strong replacement. Do we have that? No. Tomlinson is very poor overhead. Disco Turner is a possibility but has only played half a game.

It would be nice if someone up forward could clunk a few...

[dazzledavey36 54,947]

3 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:

Tomlinson really blotted his copy book on Reid vs Sydney.  Was all at sea.  Sulked each time Reid beat him.  Hasn't stood out at Casey since.  He will only be depth.

I wouldn't be surprised if he (OOC 2023) gets a chat along the lines of:  'we are not sure what the future holds re senior games so you might like to look for new opportunities this year'.

iirc he came on a very good $ package so it would free up cap space for next year's contract renewals.

On Petty:  He is a defender.  He is May's understudy.  Leave him there. 

North?

[Dee Zephyr 19,267]

I don’t think so, gun defender. 

[layzie 33,814]

11 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:

Tomlinson really blotted his copy book on Reid vs Sydney.  Was all at sea.  Sulked each time Reid beat him.  Hasn't stood out at Casey since.  He will only be depth.

I wouldn't be surprised if he (OOC 2023) gets a chat along the lines of:  'we are not sure what the future holds re senior games so you might like to look for new opportunities this year'.

iirc he came on a very good $ package so it would free up cap space for next year's contract renewals.

On Petty:  He is a defender.  He is May's understudy.  Leave him there. 

That game really dropped his stock price in the side, coaches don't forget those ones.. 

[Lucifers Hero 39,837]

15 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

North?

Ess or Saints perhaps.  Neither well stocked for defenders.

[monoccular 17,431]

1. Petty is an integral part of our defence.   

Would, just maybe, give Tomlinson a run as a forward IF we are going to experiment with someone else there 

[layzie 33,814]

5 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:

Ess or Saints perhaps.  Neither well stocked for defenders.

Could Carlton find a use for him? 

On the other hand maybe one cast-off Dees defender is enough :p

Edited July 4, 2022 by layzie

[DubDee 25,886]

If we had a good quality stopper to take Petty’s place you might consider it as our fwd line us so poor

but we don’t, so we need the big 3 guns at the back especially against the Cats

[Sydee 4,444]

Whilst it is very tempting to push Petty forward I think they will resist purely because our biggest strength is defence and he is a critical part of that structure 

If we had the luxury of Disco Turner with 25 games more and was performing well at senior level or say Joel Smith to take Petty's back six role then it would be more tempting - however we are not in that position

I really hope that when Joel Smith is fit again (fingers crossed) he gets a run in the forward half - there are few options down back without more injuries and I think he is too good to be languishing at Casey. He would imo offer a more competitive aerial option than BB with greater mobilty and capacity to apply F50 pressure. This is obviously dependent on TMac's availability 

Tomlinson is not the answer in the F50 imo he is not strong overhead and not quick enough to be effective on the lead

[Ham 741]

No.

[deelusions from afar 1,810]

After seeing Goody's comments, can't see this happening.  Having said that, I would like to see it (even if its a bit of experimenting pre-season next year).  Having the ability to throw Petty forward in game if things aren't working would add a string to our bow.

Given our tough run home, I don't think they will tweak with the back three unless forced to due to injuries (eg multiples of Max, Jackson, Weid, Brown).

[rpfc 28,469]

Let’s game this out; Petty moves forward for Brown. Tomlinson comes into backline. 
The midfield and half forwards continue to dump kicks in as the retooled forward line attempts to gel enough to lead into space and not each other. Meanwhile the backline is weakened somewhat without Petty.

I am fine if we want to turn Perty into a TMac like swing man but he will need a preseason to give him a chance to succeed.

I think the better option is to put it on the forward line to find form. Brown and Fritsch can do it in big games - I have literally seen it. Gawn is getting better as a forward and will create space for others but all this relies on two things; 

1. Front half turnovers - give our forwards what they had last year.

2. Better decisions with ball into forward line.

[Smokey 4,389]

4 hours ago, forever demons said:

No.If its not broken dont fix it

As an engineer, I believe if it ain't broke, it doesn't have enough features yet 

Edited July 5, 2022 by Smokey

[Jaded No More 68,937]

4 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

I've always been in the camp that we leave Petty down back because how valuable he is.

Right now though, our forward structure is not working. Don't think shifting Petty up forward against Geelong is a good move considering he'll most likely take Cameron.

I'd probably look at the move once Turner is available to play. I've lost confidence in Tomlinson after he got smashed by Sam Reid.

Can only give it a go right?

But defense wins flags. We won a flag with a similar forwardline last year and we scored heavily in finals.

Forwardlines are overrated. Haven't helped Brisbane or Geelong win flags recently. 

[dazzledavey36 54,947]

22 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

But defense wins flags. We won a flag with a similar forwardline last year and we scored heavily in finals.

Forwardlines are overrated. Haven't helped Brisbane or Geelong win flags recently. 

Yeah I know. I genuinely do love Petty down back. 

I've learnt this year that he's becoming hard to replace the better he gets.

[DeeZone 9,854]

16 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Yeah I know. I genuinely do love Petty down back. 

I've learnt this year that he's becoming hard to replace the better he gets.

Agree and at 197cm he is also our tallest defender, has good hands and quite a good engine for a big man, covers a lot of territory. We need his skill-set down back to support May & Lever.