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7 minutes ago, dees189227 said:

Coaches final game this week then McVeigh will take over. 

How long before Clarko's name gets bought up. 

A much better list than their ladder standing indicates.

There are problems at GWS that Cameron couldn't fix. Will require a tough coach to get things right.

Maybe the AFL will tap Clarko the way they did Roos?

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5 minutes ago, Demonland said:

This could be Adem Yze's chance at a senior coaching gig.

Depends what happens at Gold Coast, Al Clarkson will be coaching next year and it will be either gws or gold Coast.

Afl need high profile coaches at these clubs to try and get some interest on the side.  These clubs and AFLW will be costing the afl a lot.

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Demonland said:

This could be Adem Yze's chance at a senior coaching gig.

Normally I would agree.

But GWS is an AFL - owned franchise and not a traditional team in the historic sense.

AFL can't risk the next coach as a newbie, no matterhow good they are. And Yze is good alright.

Must be a big name for marketing etc. Theyr'e not the Swans and never will be with ingrained history and culture.

Clarkson or bust IMO

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21 minutes ago, faultydet said:

A much better list than their ladder standing indicates.

There are problems at GWS that Cameron couldn't fix. Will require a tough coach to get things right.

Maybe the AFL will tap Clarko the way they did Roos?

Club-wide culture fix required imo …….. a la Peter Jackson / Paul Roos.

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I'd have thought if the Giants were seriously considering James Hird he'd be caretaker so they could get a preview. 

This to me is about getting into the Clarko race nice and early, and i think there is a live chance he does land at GWS, given their more advanced list, ambassador money and AFL support. 

I could also see Ross Lyon bobbing up here.

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There has never been a better buyers market in the coaching world than right now. In the seasoned coaches wing stands Clarko, Bucks and Lyon. On the highly respected but untested wing stands Yze and Blake Caracella (and probably others that I am not aware of). There is no way known that the AFL is going to give the keys to their orange Ferrari to James Hird after what happened at the bombers, it would be a PR disaster area.

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27 minutes ago, FlashInThePan said:

There has never been a better buyers market in the coaching world than right now. In the seasoned coaches wing stands Clarko, Bucks and Lyon. On the highly respected but untested wing stands Yze and Blake Caracella (and probably others that I am not aware of). There is no way known that the AFL is going to give the keys to their orange Ferrari to James Hird after what happened at the bombers, it would be a PR disaster area.

Don Pyke could be added to the first group; took Crows to a GF and left due to politics.  And add highly touted Kingsley to the second group.

And Simpson could be coaxed out of WCE, not necessarily for the Giants role but for the dominoes that will follow.

It is quite competitive so Yze won't find it easy getting a senior gig.

Edit:  Just saw this on AFL website on newbie coaches:  "Jaymie Graham at Fremantle (and previously West Coast) is strongly regarded, Ash Hansen at the Blues and previously the Bulldogs has built a good resume and Adem Yze (at Melbourne and before that, under Clarkson at the Hawks) has developed his credentials, while Andrew McQualter and Adam Kingsley at Richmond, and Daniel Giansiracusa at Essendon are among the other assistants who have been in the running for senior gigs". 

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I dunno. I watched that AFL doco series on Amazon from 2020 and Cameron just didn’t strike me as being much more than fury. I sometimes think the world mistakes seriousness with intellect and capability.

Modern players need more evolved relationships. Just ask David Noble.

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Yze would be mad to go to GWS. Players constantly leaving, terrible culture, no supporters. They are 2-6 and have a top 3 midfield in the comp. 

2-3 years of continued underperforming and Yze’s coaching career would be over

Yze is good enough to wait for a team like Port, Dogs. I can see a lot of coaches being moved on in the next couple of years

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15 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:

And Simpson could be coaxed out of WCE, not necessarily for the Giants role but for the dominoes that will follow.

Tom Browne also mentioned the domino effect.  

How do you think this may play out, Luci?

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1 hour ago, faultydet said:

A much better list than their ladder standing indicates.

There are problems at GWS that Cameron couldn't fix. Will require a tough coach to get things right.

Maybe the AFL will tap Clarko the way they did Roos?

PJ tapped Roos not the AFL

I don’t think Clarkson would have any interest in this mess of an organisation aside from an easy pay packet

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1 hour ago, layzie said:

He's been a good coach

Others have said the same thing, but I don't see this at all. 

Despite making a GF, his team that is chockful of early draft picks has underperformed badly IMO.

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8 minutes ago, Demonstone said:

Tom Browne also mentioned the domino effect.  

How do you think this may play out, Luci?

Its time for the popcorn!

Truly, I have no idea.  Lewis said last night Simpson should be thinking about whether he wants to go thru  a rebuild after 10 years at the club. 

He took over at WCE when they were in contention.  A newbie coach there now would be torn to shreds from day 1 by their fans and the WA media.  A scary thought.

David King put up a chart showing that newbie coaches fail with bottom of the ladder re-build clubs.  He listed many many names and found only a couple that didn't:  Clarkson and maybe another that I don't recall.

So, time for the popcorn!

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10 minutes ago, DubDee said:

Yze would be mad to go to GWS. Players constantly leaving, terrible culture, no supporters. They are 2-6 and have a top 3 midfield in the comp. 

2-3 years of continued underperforming and Yze’s coaching career would be over

Yze is good enough to wait for a team like Port, Dogs. I can see a lot of coaches being moved on in the next couple of years

Yze is the perfect person to go into a club and build relationships and culture. He's more than just a strategist type.

He's also VERY keen on a senior gig and I have no doubt will throw his hat into the ring for the GWS job.

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27 minutes ago, The heart beats true said:

Modern players need more evolved relationships. Just ask David Noble.

It's no coincidence that one coach who decided to coach every match from the boundary has seen his team rocket to prominence.

(There are other factors of course, but IMO that's a key one.)

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