Secrets to Knock Off Unstoppable Dees

[Demonland 73,485]

THE THREE KEYS TO SUCCESS AGAINST THE DEES

1. BRING THE HEAT

2. EMPLOY STAY-AT-HOME FORWARDS

3. CONTROL THE AIR (OR AT LEAST BREAK-EVEN)

ALSO WORTH IMPLEMENTING …

• LOWER THE EYES GOING FORWARD
• GENERATE SCORES FROM FORWARD-HALF INTERCEPTS
• SHIFT THE DEFENCE
• OUTSIDE THE CENTRE SQUARE
• USE A TAGGER
• FISH OUT GAWN AND JACKSON
• PUT PLAYERS IN THE GUN

 

[Lucifers Hero 40,516]

McGuane sounds like 'captain obvious'.  As if opps don't know those tactics.  Impossible to employ all of them in the one game.

All those tactics have been tried at some stage, none have succeeded for 4 quarters.

Edited April 28, 2022 by Lucifers Hero

[Nelo 813]

Good luck, it ain't going to happen.

[rjay 25,304]

He forgot the most important one.

Infiltrate with COVID germ carriers...

[whatwhat say what 23,428]

we are so locked in to our habits - notice my complete surprise when may DOESN'T go long to the edge of the square - that it's stopping us doing what we do regularly really well that is one of the hardest things for an oppo team to stop

the real key i think is fast ball movement and constant run; it's why adelaide was able to beat us last year as they handballed THROUGH us

but if a side doesn't 'click' and is able to execute that strategy for a full quarter for four quarters then we are able to turn over and then we're ballistic when we roll forward

anyone who tries to 'chip' around us - as per how tigers tried on the weekend, and port as well - is putting themselves into our hands

[FlashInThePan 1,893]

How good is it being the hunted?!

All of a sudden teams are changing the way they play to try to take our game away from us. It will be really interesting to see a team bring it for the full 4 quarters, so far we have seen patches where other teams have had things more on their own terms but no one has been able to keep it going for the full 4 quarters. The interesting thing it has brought out in us is this ability to go full beast mode for 10 minutes to a quarter when the opposition loses concentration and blow them off the park.

Brisbane or the Swans will likely bring a full 4 quarter effort, I can't wait to see how we respond. Bring it on!

[Mazer Rackham 14,971]

So far, really only the Dogs have tried to take us on by playing "their" game better than we play "ours". And were left limping back to their kennel.

Everyone else has tried to negate us. Interesting when we run into some teams with the confidence to back their own system. Bris, Syd come to mind. I think the Hawks will try a full on assault too. Until they run out of puff.

[Ollie fan 3,633]

I would think that for a team to adopt a game plan which it is not used to, in an effort to beat us, is a recipe for disaster. As we have seen with the development of our own game plan, it takes years to ingrain it so it is played well. To try and adapt to a new game plan for a single match strikes me as totally unrealistic.

[whatwhat say what 23,428]

brenton sanderson's strategy on sen:

• play two rucks, have one 'tag' steven may to stop him playing his intercept game
• tag petracca
• play your six forwards rather than rolling one up to stoppages
• high pressure forward approach so you can't go 'too tall' (which seems to contradict his first point)
• one mid rolls back to play a 'back 7'
• embrace 'chaos football'

basically says every team needs to go AGAINST their own game plan in order to beat us

said that we're ahead of the pack, then the bears, then a crop of 5-6 teams

[Ollie fan 3,633]

…. and really, “ employ a tagger”? On which one of our champions - and Clarrie learned how to beat a tagger about 3 seasons ago.

”Generate scores from forward-half intercepts” - well, duh! A bit easier said than done!

[Ollie fan 3,633]

1 minute ago, whatwhat say what said:

brenton sanderson's strategy on sen:

• play two rucks, have one 'tag' steven may to stop him playing his intercept game
• tag petracca
• play your six forwards rather than rolling one up to stoppages
• high pressure forward approach so you can't go 'too tall' (which seems to contradict his first point)
• one mid rolls back to play a 'back 7'
• embrace 'chaos football'

basically says every team needs to go AGAINST their own game plan in order to beat us

said that we're ahead of the pack, then the bears, then a crop of 5-6 teams

Adopting Sandeeson’s genius plan leaves them with a whole TWO players with which to actually win the game!

[Lucifers Hero 40,516]

9 minutes ago, whatwhat say what said:

brenton sanderson's strategy on sen:

• play two rucks, have one 'tag' steven may to stop him playing his intercept game
• tag petracca
• play your six forwards rather than rolling one up to stoppages
• high pressure forward approach so you can't go 'too tall' (which seems to contradict his first point)
• one mid rolls back to play a 'back 7'
• embrace 'chaos football'

basically says every team needs to go AGAINST their own game plan in order to beat us

said that we're ahead of the pack, then the bears, then a crop of 5-6 teams

All that says is Sanderson doesn't have much of an idea of our strengths.

• Tag May:  Petty and Lever and resting ruckman will do the intercepting.
• Tag Petracca:  last time someone did that Oliver and Sparrow had outstanding games.
• Even numbers at stoppages:  Great, suits us fine.  Let Viney and co go to town.
• High pressure forwards:  Hunt, Bowey, Salem et al will let them know what pressure is.
• One mid rolls back:  we will just play through the other side of the ground.
• Embrace 'chaos. football:  We have overwhelmed that every time it has been tried.

Not deep thinkers these so called 'strategists'.

Edited April 28, 2022 by Lucifers Hero

[drdrake 3,203]

It's been an interesting watch over the past month in particular.  Teams are more focused on stopping us scoring then trying to score.  That just leaves our backline set up behind the ball.

The fear of the opposition is great, it is we don't want to get blown away early so defend hard, then they realise they need to score and we bang on 5 goals quickly to kill the game.

[John Demonic 5,901]

21 minutes ago, Ollie fan said:

Adopting Sandeeson’s genius plan leaves them with a whole TWO players with which to actually win the game!

Just wait until they realise the Goodwin tag leaves them without a coach

[Bitter but optimistic 22,289]

That confirms it. 

Mick's about as silly as his column picture in the Herald- Sin looks.

[layzie 34,336]

How many ex coaches does it take to turn a light bulb?

Honestly these are all great theories but executing for 4 quarters is a different thing. Those who come close manage to keep it going the longest, it's like in one of those Batman movies where he has to climb out of the dungeon hole thing (sorry bad memory). 

[Demon Disciple 12,452]

That’s all well and good, but when teams begin to cotton on how to beat us, we’ll employ strategy #2 - May kicks out to the right side of the ground.

That will keep teams guessing for another 2 seasons at least, as they recover from trying to figure out what the funk happened (as will all MFC supporters 😱)

Edited April 28, 2022 by Demon Disciple

[Jaded No More 68,975]

Breaking news. To beat Melbourne you need to be better than Melbourne for 4 quarters. 

[Willmoy1947 4,198]

2 hours ago, Demonland said:

THE THREE KEYS TO SUCCESS AGAINST THE DEES

1. BRING THE HEAT

2. EMPLOY STAY-AT-HOME FORWARDS

3. CONTROL THE AIR (OR AT LEAST BREAK-EVEN)

ALSO WORTH IMPLEMENTING …

• LOWER THE EYES GOING FORWARD
• GENERATE SCORES FROM FORWARD-HALF INTERCEPTS
• SHIFT THE DEFENCE
• OUTSIDE THE CENTRE SQUARE
• USE A TAGGER
• FISH OUT GAWN AND JACKSON
• PUT PLAYERS IN THE GUN

 

You can't use the other seventeen sides... 

[jnrmac 20,276]

But do we have a Plan B?

 

Don't need one...

[Queanbeyan Demon 6,935]

Deez.

Edited April 28, 2022 by Queanbeyan Demon

[Queanbeyan Demon 6,935]

1 minute ago, Queanbeyan Demon said:

How many AFL games did McGuane coach again? And how many premierships did Sanderson coach? 2012–2014, Adelaide, 69 (39–30–0). 

Nothing against the Guys. But as one League coach once told me, telling your players what you want them to do, and them actually doing it, are two different things. 

 

[Dees2014 2,377]

4 hours ago, drdrake said:

It's been an interesting watch over the past month in particular.  Teams are more focused on stopping us scoring then trying to score.  That just leaves our backline set up behind the ball.

The fear of the opposition is great, it is we don't want to get blown away early so defend hard, then they realise they need to score and we bang on 5 goals quickly to kill the game.

It will be interesting to see what the Swans do. I suspect they will try chaos football and try to out-score us, and not have a single minded emphasis on Defence. It would make for an interesting game, especially seeing our forwards fully unleashed. I would still back in our backline and mids to keep their score in check.

[Roost it far 9,531]

The only way we lose is when we have an off day or covid really bites. This week our outs are big but are ins include Viney and Lever. Hardly an issue

[Jumping Jack Clennett 1,820]

Summing up McGuane’s thesis today………….play better than the Dees, and you’ll beat ‘em!