Jump to content

Featured Replies

 

I love seeing West Coast getting belted. High on my wish list is to see the Dees smash them by 100 points. At Optus

55 minutes ago, Whispering_Jack said:

Am I allowed to express my dissent with the standard of football on display today - that includes players and the persons officiating? 

Watching Port v Eagles on the couch and I’ve already waved my hands in dismay 3 or 4 times.

How many 50's paid against you????

 

I never thought I would ever say this, about another side, but this Eagles team looks worse than us in our Neeld nadir 

Edited by Deepfreeze

1 minute ago, Deepfreeze said:

I never thought I would say this, but this Eagles team looks worse than us in our Neeld nadir 

Nar NOTHING was worse than this!


Excuse my ignorance on this one but is the West Coast team playing today all AFL listed players or do they still have top-ups?

1 hour ago, Webber said:

I heard a stat some weeks ago (wish I’d paid more attention) that teams who lose the grand final by more than 45 points don’t win a final the next year. Something like 70% don’t make finals at all. And the bigger the margin, the worse it gets (sample group gets smaller though). Ergo, Dogs won’t make finals, and if they do manage to scrape in, they’re going straight out. 

Huh, that’s a great stat!
I wonder if it’s a collective thing like loss of belief in game plan, or an individual loss of belief, is it an emotional grieving type thing? Does the coach make changes that hurt team play as an over-correction? All of the above?

 
14 minutes ago, BoBo said:

Huh, that’s a great stat!
I wonder if it’s a collective thing like loss of belief in game plan, or an individual loss of belief, is it an emotional grieving type thing? Does the coach make changes that hurt team play as an over-correction? All of the above?

Nick Riewoldt (who of course has gone through just this) seemed to think self-preservation kicks in at a certain point - like "I don't want to be hurt like that again" so you don't work quite as hard, commit quite as much, and so on.

3 minutes ago, Nascent said:

Never like to get too far ahead of myself but in 3 weeks time we have Eagles followed by the Kangaroos.

this is going to be easy revenge of the sith GIF by Star Wars

Watch the match day thread light up if we only win by 4-5 goals


3 minutes ago, Nascent said:

Never like to get too far ahead of myself but in 3 weeks time we have Eagles followed by the Kangaroos.

this is going to be easy revenge of the sith GIF by Star Wars

Isn't Obi-Wan being sarcastic when he says that? I guess this gif works if you're Eagles and Kangas fans preparing to play Melbourne.

5 minutes ago, Engorged Onion said:

Watch the match day thread light up if we only win by 4-5 goals

Nothing more certain.

4 minutes ago, Chook said:

Isn't Obi-Wan being sarcastic when he says that? I guess this gif works if you're Eagles and Kangas fans preparing to play Melbourne.

I think you're right actually! Tongue in cheek nonetheless. The club will probably be happy to grind out a 4-6 goal win and nothing is a given in footy.

Edited by Nascent

28 minutes ago, MT64 said:

How many 50's paid against you????

His dinner has been reduced to a Vegemite sandwich and a glass of water

29 minutes ago, picket fence said:

Nar NOTHING was worse than this!

Sadly picket I think you are incorrect however I enjoy it happen to the Weagles.


54 minutes ago, dl4e said:

West Coast look like a 2nd division side of the vfa from the seventies. Dreadful.

What? Dandenong was a bloody good side back then. 

6 minutes ago, BDA said:

West Coast have kicked 1 goal to 3 quarter time. Hilarious

So... are they still up??

1 hour ago, adonski said:

They effectively try to play netball. Deliberately soft to not give free kicks away, and deliberately soft with ball in hand to draw frees from tackles as frequently as possible

I think there is some truth this. I reckon they deliberately train in how to draw a free. Don’t get me wrong, I mean it’s fun blaming the umpires, but in all seriousness it’s probably more the Doggies style that draws the free. I just wish the AFL umpiring dept would catch on already and pay attention to the disposal, lowering at the knees and falling forward. 

On the flip side it must take away from the required mind set to win games and we are seeing the transpire in front of our eyes. 

1 hour ago, DEE fence said:

Minor correction,  I don't think any team is top 8 material after they play us.

20220423_094540.png

The ol' JCV video cassette recorder was out over summer and running overtime. The other 16 clubs watched us dismantle the Dogs last September and have taken the leaf. Apply sustained pressure and they excrete themselves very, very badly. Calab Daniel is the number one offender . . . time and again. 

Edited by Queanbeyan Demon

1 minute ago, CYB said:

I think there is some truth this. I reckon they deliberately train in how to draw a free. Don’t get me wrong, I mean it’s fun blaming the umpires, but in all seriousness it’s probably more the Doggies style that draws the free. I just wish the AFL umpiring dept would catch on already and pay attention to the disposal, lowering at the knees and falling forward. 

I think there can be no doubt they train to win frees.

But that doesn't explain why they seemingly can't give away a free when they drop the ball, throw it, etc. And their opponents manage to give away frees that make even neutral supporters blow a gasket.

None of it adds up. It's inexplicable, yet it keeps happening.


1 hour ago, John Crow Batty said:

Do the betting agencies take wagers on the free kick counts?  One could retire betting on dogs games.

Make it a multi with May perpetually kicking out to the left HBF. Nothing surer in life

Hinkley's seat is going to get pretty uncomfortable if Port cough this game up from here.

 
16 minutes ago, Queanbeyan Demon said:

The ol' JCV video cassette recorder was out over summer and running overtime. The other 16 clubs watched us dismantle the Dogs last September and have taken the leaf. Apply sustained pressure and they excrete themselves very, very badly. Calab Daniel is the number one offender . . . time and again. 

The amount of uncontested ball he gets is off the charts but his contested ball is insanely poor, but as soon as he is made accountable he turns it over time and rime again. OVERATED player

Edited by picket fence

2 hours ago, Mazer Rackham said:

I think there can be no doubt they train to win frees.

But that doesn't explain why they seemingly can't give away a free when they drop the ball, throw it, etc. And their opponents manage to give away frees that make even neutral supporters blow a gasket.

None of it adds up. It's inexplicable, yet it keeps happening.

Clarkson complained about the Bulldogs 'method' of disposal by hand back after  the 2016 semi final ... mentioned that his own team would need to learn how it's done, hinting that they would do the same

That's 6 years ago now

So all the clubs do it and try to disguise it but again, the Bulldogs do it better than the rest (probably in all facets of a free kick, if we're being honest)

For instance, as you and most others know, the handpass used to require a clenched fist punching the ball from another hand/arm that was reasonably stationary (certainly not moving about at a great rate of knots)

Now, the hand holding the ball can be moving at a great rate of knots and the slightest of 'taps' on the ball is allowed ... so that new interpretation can be exploited and is exploited.  And the Bulldogs are the best at it.  Again, in close with a mass of bodies around the ball, the release of the ball after immediately being tackled is difficult to see clearly.  Especially into what has actually happened

My eyes see a throw only being paid when it's absolutely obvious.  The rest of the time it's play on

And it's gone way past blaming the umps ... this is a rules of the game issue which is an AFL issue

Edited by Macca


Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Unfortunately, your content contains terms that we do not allow. Please edit your content to remove the highlighted words below.
Reply to this topic...

Featured Content

  • NON-MFC: Round 13

    Follow all the action from every Round 13 clash excluding the Dees as the 2025 AFL Premiership Season rolls on. With Melbourne playing in the final match of the round on King's Birthday, all eyes turn to the rest of the competition. Who are you tipping to win? And more importantly, which results best serve the Demons’ finals aspirations? Join the discussion and keep track of the matches that could shape the ladder and impact our run to September.

    • 3 replies
  • PREVIEW: Collingwood

    Having convincingly defeated last year’s premier and decisively outplayed the runner-up with 8.2 in the final quarter, nothing epitomized the Melbourne Football Club’s performance more than its 1.12 final half, particularly the eight consecutive behinds in the last term, against a struggling St Kilda team in the midst of a dismal losing streak. Just when stability and consistency were anticipated within the Demon ranks, they delivered a quintessential performance marked by instability and ill-conceived decisions, with the most striking aspect being their inaccuracy in kicking for goal, which suggested a lack of preparation (instead of sleeping in their hotel in Alice, were they having a night on the turps) rather than a well-rested team. Let’s face it - this kicking disease that makes them look like raw amateurs is becoming a millstone around the team’s neck.

    • 1 reply
  • CASEY: Sydney

    The Casey Demons were always expected to emerge victorious in their matchup against the lowly-ranked Sydney Swans at picturesque Tramway Oval, situated in the shadows of the SCG in Moore Park. They dominated the proceedings in the opening two and a half quarters of the game but had little to show for it. This was primarily due to their own sloppy errors in a low-standard game that produced a number of crowded mauls reminiscent of the rugby game popular in old Sydney Town. However, when the Swans tired, as teams often do when they turn games into ugly defensive contests, Casey lifted the standard of its own play and … it was off to the races. Not to nearby Randwick but to a different race with an objective of piling on goal after goal on the way to a mammoth victory. At the 25-minute mark of the third quarter, the Demons held a slender 14-point lead over the Swans, who are ahead on the ladder of only the previous week's opposition, the ailing Bullants. Forty minutes later, they had more than fully compensated for the sloppiness of their earlier play with a decisive 94-point victory, that culminated in a rousing finish which yielded thirteen unanswered goals. Kicks hit their targets, the ball found itself going through the middle and every player made a contribution.

    • 1 reply
  • REPORT: St. Kilda

    Hands up if you thought, like me, at half-time in yesterday’s game at TIO Traeger Park, Alice Springs that Melbourne’s disposal around the ground and, in particular, its kicking inaccuracy in front of the goals couldn’t get any worse. Well, it did. And what’s even more damning for the Melbourne Football Club is that the game against St Kilda and its resurgence from the bottomless pit of its miserable start to the season wasn’t just lost through poor conversion for goal but rather in the 15 minutes when the entire team went into a slumber and was mugged by the out-of-form Saints. Their six goals two behinds (one goal less than the Demons managed for the whole game) weaved a path of destruction from which they were unable to recover. Ross Lyon’s astute use of pressure to contain the situation once they had asserted their grip on the game, and Melbourne’s self-destructive wastefulness, assured that outcome. The old adage about the insanity of repeatedly doing something and expecting a different result, was out there. Two years ago, the score line in Melbourne’s loss to the Giants at this same ground was 5 goals 15 behinds - a ratio of one goal per four scoring shots - was perfectly replicated with yesterday’s 7 goals 21 behinds. 
    This has been going on for a while and opens up a number of questions. I’ll put forward a few that come to mind from this performance. The obvious first question is whether the club can find a suitable coach to instruct players on proper kicking techniques or is this a skill that can no longer be developed at this stage of the development of our playing group? Another concern is the team's ability to counter an opponent's dominance during a run on as exemplified by the Saints in the first quarter. Did the Demons underestimate their opponents, considering St Kilda's goals during this period were scored by relatively unknown forwards? Furthermore, given the modest attendance of 6,721 at TIO Traeger Park and the team's poor past performances at this venue, is it prudent to prioritize financial gain over potentially sacrificing valuable premiership points by relinquishing home ground advantage, notwithstanding the cultural significance of the team's connection to the Red Centre? 

      • Like
    • 4 replies
  • PREGAME: Collingwood

    After a disappointing loss in Alice Springs the Demons return to the MCG to take on the Magpies in the annual King's Birthday Big Freeze for MND game. Who comes in and who goes out?

      • Thumb Down
    • 231 replies
  • PODCAST: St. Kilda

    The Demonland Podcast will air LIVE on Monday, 2nd June @ 8:00pm. Join Binman, George & I as we have a chat with former Demon ruckman Jeff White about his YouTube channel First Use where he dissects ruck setups and contests. We'll then discuss the Dees disappointing loss to the Saints in Alice Springs.
    Your questions and comments are a huge part of our podcast so please post anything you want to ask or say below and we'll give you a shout out on the show.
    Listen LIVE: https://demonland.com/

      • Thanks
      • Like
    • 47 replies