On 28/07/2022 at 02:58, Redleg said:

Are they still confident of the double?

Knowing how foolish Captain feather hat is, I dare say they still are.

I just don't see any reason or imperative for Jackson to leave the Dees 200pages of speculation and unfounded rumours has failed to shift me from this view

I full expect Jackson to sign for 2 to 3 years

BTW I WILL NOT BE RESDING THIS THREAD UNTIL THERE IS SOME ACTUAL NEWS OR ANNOUNCEMENT

The Brayshaw saga was based on [censored] and wind in my view

No decision will be made until our season is over, which I believe a fair few posters have mentioned now. Richo talks about it here (about 5:30 in).

 

  On 28/07/2022 at 02:58, Redleg said:

Are they still confident of the double?

article (follow link) has now removed all mention of gus and jacko - lol

  On 28/07/2022 at 00:19, Lord Nev said:

 

Would we ask the question?

 

Home grown key forward taken with the Cerra pick? We could ask, but the answer’s going to come back pretty quickly in the negative.

  On 28/07/2022 at 03:05, ChaserJ said:

Home grown key forward taken with the Cerra pick? We could ask, but the answer’s going to come back pretty quickly in the negative.

There is Treacy, the Vic Country boy, who is 19 and 195cms and tough and hard at the contest.

Him, a top pick to try and get another key forward and Meek could do it. Solves most of our problems with losing one player.

Reckon the club knows what Dogga can be offered, and any changes to the cap from the new EBA (whenever it is finalised) may allow for an increase.

  On 28/07/2022 at 03:04, Lord Nev said:

No decision will be made until our season is over, which I believe a fair few posters have mentioned now. Richo talks about it here (about 5:30 in).

 

That to me indicates what I have said for a while. Jacko will go to Freo if we can do a deal and if not, will sign for a couple of years. 

IMO he is happy to return home if a fair deal can be done and if not, he will not be devastated to stay a couple of more years and then maybe try again or even stay longer.

I think this is about an opportunity that may be available, but obviously cant happen until the season is over. Too much water to go under the bridge with various players and deals.

Edited July 28, 20222 yr by Redleg

  On 28/07/2022 at 03:04, Lord Nev said:

No decision will be made until our season is over, which I believe a fair few posters have mentioned now. Richo talks about it here (about 5:30 in).

 

Just reading between the lines, seems like the club have told Jackson that he just needs to focus on the rest of the year, regardless of his decision. If he's decided to leave, it must be hard for a young fellow.

  On 28/07/2022 at 03:04, Lord Nev said:

No decision will be made until our season is over, which I believe a fair few posters have mentioned now. Richo talks about it here (about 5:30 in).

 

well the last sen audio went well didn't it?

i'll take it with a dose of salts

My instinct is that he’s probably going to go, I don’t think it’s about money or disliking Melbourne though. I think he’d just like to go home so if we can work out a fair deal, happy days. 
 

I’d like a top 10 pick, a second rounder and a player who could play a role in our best 22 

  On 28/07/2022 at 03:35, Dwight Schrute said:

My instinct is that he’s probably going to go, I don’t think it’s about money or disliking Melbourne though. I think he’d just like to go home so if we can work out a fair deal, happy days. 
 

I’d like a top 10 pick, a second rounder and a player who could play a role in our best 22 

This. But the odds that a deal doesn't get done, and he re-signs for a couple of years are a 1000/1. 

Listening to Richo, I think that the club have accepted that he's leaving, and just want to make life easy for him so that he can play good football for us for the remainder of the year.

It was interesting watching the Brayshaw video on the club site this morning talking about his contract. He said it definitely was a distraction, and half joked that the reason for the long term deal was so he didn’t have to go though it all again.

I feel for Luke. It’s been inferred here that there’s a bit more going on behind the scenes than we know. We may never hear about it all, as is his right to privacy. I do think it’s impacting his performance. He’s a kid. It must be really tough to have to contend with this everywhere he goes - and I bet the opposition on the field are into him about it.

  On 28/07/2022 at 03:23, Clintosaurus said:

Reckon the club knows what Dogga can be offered, and any changes to the cap from the new EBA (whenever it is finalised) may allow for an increase.

This, in my OP is the time when Dogga should have the same mindset as Brayshaw even if it isn't going to be the biggest deal for him.

Make of it what you will given it's old mate...

 

I know this could sound silly, but I just wonder if the club sees some deficiencies in LJ's game and accept that at some stage he would like to go home and see this as an opportunity to solve our key forward and ruck issues, by perhaps getting a key forward and ruck from Freo, plus a pick good enough to get another key forward in the draft.

That could end up 3 players for one, who are all best 22 for us. Tom and BBB could be on their last year next year and that allows refreshing of the list. M.Brown will be gone and who knows what the plans are for Weid. JVR is still to play and that would cover our key forwards and rucks and we could still draft or rookie a young developing ruck.

I believe that we do hold the upper hand with this deal, if it happens at all. IMO LJ will not screw the Dees. So unless Freo satisfies us, he stays for a couple of years, or maybe even longer if he feels Freo has let him down.

Edited July 28, 20222 yr by Redleg

Wonder if someone like young KPF Josh Treacy could be a part of any dealings.

  On 28/07/2022 at 02:58, Redleg said:

Are they still confident of the double?

In fairness they are from Perth and they believe that double means one.

  On 28/07/2022 at 03:21, Redleg said:

There is Treacy, the Vic Country boy, who is 19 and 195cms and tough and hard at the contest.

Him, a top pick to try and get another key forward and Meek could do it. Solves most of our problems with losing one player.

Freo's 1st, Treacy and Meek - we could do worse ...

  On 28/07/2022 at 05:15, Nelo said:

In fairness they are from Perth and they believe that double means one.

No that is Essendon.

Imagine how much the narrative has swayed. We went from Jackson staying, to Jackson going, to Brayshaw staying, to Brayshaw going, to Brayshaw ACTUALLY staying, and now suddenly the media is hinting that Jackson could still stay...

We should have learnt after the Dusty fiasco in 2017. No one really knows outside of the player themselves and almost always, anything in the media is mostly planted news tidbits to fuel the negotiation. 

In 5 years is Luke Jackson a ruckman or a key forward? 

  On 28/07/2022 at 03:01, Kent said:

I just don't see any reason or imperative for Jackson to leave the Dees 200pages of speculation and unfounded rumours has failed to shift me from this view

I full expect Jackson to sign for 2 to 3 years

BTW I WILL NOT BE RESDING THIS THREAD UNTIL THERE IS SOME ACTUAL NEWS OR ANNOUNCEMENT

The Brayshaw saga was based on [censored] and wind in my view

Hopefully you'll read it for this reply to your post at least. 

  On 28/07/2022 at 05:48, Dwight Schrute said:

In 5 years is Luke Jackson a ruckman or a key forward? 

Definitely not a key forward. 

Also too short to be a power ruck.

But the answer IMO is a ruck.